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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear confocalists, I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence microscopy: I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter of the Handbook (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 means to the power of 2. The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence microscopy". In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of field" Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = 80% limit: (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various formulas: (1) 773 nm (2) 386 nm (3) 272 nm This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be happy if you could clarify this for me. Steffen -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) Head of light microscopy Mail room: Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München Building location: Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Steffen, nice question! The resolution can be nicely defined for confocal, where the PSF is approximately an ellipsoid, but the widefield case is more complicated. In WF case the results depends strongly on how you define 'z-resolution' and what PSF model you use. For example, from the point of view of the 'missing cone' problem of the widefield OTF, there is no z-resolution, really. Also practical test will give you different results whether you're looking at fluorescent beads or some structure that is dense in 3D. So, according to my feelings the highest value from your list is the most appropriate... :-). Regards, zdenek svindrych ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]> Datum: 21. 1. 2013 Předmět: formula for z-resolution "***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear confocalists, I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence microscopy: I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter of the Handbook (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 means to the power of 2. The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence microscopy". In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of field" Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = 80% limit: (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various formulas: (1) 773 nm (2) 386 nm (3) 272 nm This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be happy if you could clarify this for me. Steffen -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) Head of light microscopy Mail room: Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München Building location: Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern" |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear Steffen, I found (and use) the following definition for z-resolution (Jerome Mertz, Optical Microscopy, Roberts and Company Publishers, p. 297) delta z (WF)=n*lambda)/NA^2 delta z(conf)=n*lambda/2*NA^2 Both formulas are derived from the frequency support of the different microscopes. Thus theoretically the frequency of a confocal microscope is twice as good as that of a wide-field microscope. This is (and the author is explicitly stating it) overly optimistic and only true in the case of an infinitesimal small pinhole. Thus is will be hardly reached in practice. Nevertheless I like these definitions as the can be obtained from "pure" theory. The formula I presented here is identical with your second one. To my understanding his is often named "depth of field" due to the missing cone problem. Just my 2 c. Regards Arne > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steffen > Dietzel > Sent: lundi 21 janvier 2013 09:01 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: formula for z-resolution > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear confocalists, > > I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited resolution > along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence > microscopy: > > I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter of the > Handbook > > (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 > > where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the > immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 > means to the power of 2. > The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to the first > minimum of the diffraction pattern. > The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence > microscopy". > > > > In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and > Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: > > (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 > > Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. > However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of field" > > > > Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" > defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the peak > intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, Chapter in > Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases with an NA <0.5. > (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal plane leads to 73,5 % > intensity at the minimum between peaks) > > For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = 80% > limit: > > (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) > > This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, although > not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. > > > Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various > formulas: > > (1) 773 nm > (2) 386 nm > (3) 272 nm > > This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be > happy if you could clarify this for me. > > Steffen > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat > Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München > Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) > Head of light microscopy > > Mail room: > Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München > > Building location: > Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** http://www.microscopyu.com/articles/formulas/formulasfielddepth.html ________________________________________ From: Steffen Dietzel [[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:00 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: formula for z-resolution ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear confocalists, I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence microscopy: I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter of the Handbook (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 means to the power of 2. The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence microscopy". In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of field" Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = 80% limit: (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various formulas: (1) 773 nm (2) 386 nm (3) 272 nm This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be happy if you could clarify this for me. Steffen -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) Head of light microscopy Mail room: Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München Building location: Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Steffen, I also find it useful to think about spatial frequencies when thinking of resolution. I find it instructive to consider two extreme cases (in terms of spatial frequencies they contain) to think about depth resolution in fluorescence microscope. case-1: point specimen (a point contains all lateral spatial frequencies). - at what axial distance are two points resolved? The first zero along axis of the 3D PSF occurs at 2n*lambda/NA^2. If we employ the Rayleigh criterion used to define lateral two point resolution (the zero of one PSF overlaps with the maximum of the other), this is the distance by which two points need to be separated to 'be resolved'. The exact % drop in intensity from peak differs because the lateral PSF has a functional form of jinc^2 whereas the axial PSF has a functional form of sinc^2. The axial cutoff of the OTF depends on the lateral spatial frequency and the maximal axial cutoff occurs at lateral frequency=1/2*lateral cutoff. A paper by Rainer Heintzmann and Colin Sheppard ( http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.micron.2006.07.017) has useful derivations of equations for cutoffs of OTF in widefield and confocal. case-2: uniform plane of fluorescence (a plane contains only the zero lateral spatial frequency). - at what axial distance are two uniform planes of fluorescence resolved? This is typically what we mean by 'depth sectioning' ability of wide-filed vs confocal. In this case, the widefield microscope does not offer any resolution (because of missing cone problem). Even at axial distance of 2n*lambda/NA^2 (theoretically at any axial distance), image of the uniform plane will be the same as in focus. But image of uniform plane does change in confocal. The intensity drop in image of uniform plane along axis is equal to integrated intensity of the PSF in XY plane. Axial profile obtained by integrating PSF in XY plane (which is the same as axial profile of the OTF) is widely used definition of depth sectioning. Cheers, Shalin website: http://mshalin.com (office) Lillie 110, (ph) 508-289-7374. HFSP Postdoctoral Fellow, Marine Biological Laboratory, 7 MBL Street, Woods Hole MA 02543, USA On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Zdenek Svindrych <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Steffen, > > nice question! > > The resolution can be nicely defined for confocal, where the PSF is > approximately an ellipsoid, but the widefield case is more complicated. > In WF case the results depends strongly on how you define 'z-resolution' > and > what PSF model you use. > For example, from the point of view of the 'missing cone' problem of the > widefield OTF, there is no z-resolution, really. > > Also practical test will give you different results whether you're looking > at fluorescent beads or some structure that is dense in 3D. > > So, according to my feelings the highest value from your list is the most > appropriate... :-). > > Regards, > > zdenek svindrych > > > > ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- > Od: Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]> > Datum: 21. 1. 2013 > Předmět: formula for z-resolution > > "***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear confocalists, > > I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited > resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence > microscopy: > > I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter > of the Handbook > > (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 > > where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the > immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 > means to the power of 2. > The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to > the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. > The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence > microscopy". > > > > In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and > Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: > > (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 > > Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. > However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of > field" > > > > Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" > defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the > peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, > Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases > with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal > plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) > > For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = > 80% limit: > > (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) > > This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, > although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. > > > Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various > formulas: > > (1) 773 nm > (2) 386 nm > (3) 272 nm > > This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be > happy if you could clarify this for me. > > Steffen > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat > Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München > Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) > Head of light microscopy > > Mail room: > Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München > > Building location: > Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern" > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Steffen, I should correct a mix-up: axial profile of PSF integrated in XY plane = Fourier transform of (axial profile of the OTF). For example, the axial profile of widefield OTF is peak only at origin (delta function) and the axial profile of integrated PSF is constant. Best Shalin On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Shalin Mehta <[hidden email]>wrote: > Axial profile obtained by integrating PSF in XY plane (which is the same > as axial profile of the OTF) is widely used definition of depth sectioning. > website: http://mshalin.com (office) Lillie 110, (ph) 508-289-7374. HFSP Postdoctoral Fellow, Marine Biological Laboratory, 7 MBL Street, Woods Hole MA 02543, USA |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hello all, I can only add to the many excellent contributions that the widefield case only has NO z-resolution when the field diaphragm is infinitely large (i.e., when the illumination power density at the plane of fluorescent material) does not change as the objective focuses up and down). As this is never the case, there is in fact always some z-resolution, and it can be quite pronounced if the excitation really does fill the objective aperture and one uses a small field diaphragm. Indeed, some of the best work on nuclei was done with the field diaphram set to about 5-10µm in the focus plane and under these conditions the system shows partial-confocal performance. The Agard and Sedat group wrote a paper detailing this effect Hiraoka, Y., Sedat, J.W., and Agard, D.A. (1990). Determination of the three-dimensional imaging properties of an optical microscope system: partial confocal behavior in epi-fluorescence microscopy. Biophys. J., 57: 325-333. A careful reading of this paper makes clear why one must control the field diaphragm diameter (as well as NA, lambda, specimen RI, and other variables) when determining the widefield PSF. Regards, Jim Pawley > > >Hi Steffen, > >I also find it useful to think about spatial frequencies when thinking of >resolution. I find it instructive to consider two extreme cases (in terms >of spatial frequencies they contain) to think about depth resolution in >fluorescence microscope. > >case-1: point specimen (a point contains all lateral spatial frequencies). >- at what axial distance are two points resolved? > >The first zero along axis of the 3D PSF occurs at 2n*lambda/NA^2. If we >employ the Rayleigh criterion used to define lateral two point resolution >(the zero of one PSF overlaps with the maximum of the other), this is the >distance by which two points need to be separated to 'be resolved'. The >exact % drop in intensity from peak differs because the lateral PSF has a >functional form of jinc^2 whereas the axial PSF has a functional form of >sinc^2. > >The axial cutoff of the OTF depends on the lateral spatial frequency and >the maximal axial cutoff occurs at lateral frequency=1/2*lateral cutoff. A >paper by Rainer Heintzmann and Colin Sheppard ( >http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.micron.2006.07.017) has useful derivations of >equations for cutoffs of OTF in widefield and confocal. > >case-2: uniform plane of fluorescence (a plane contains only the zero >lateral spatial frequency). >- at what axial distance are two uniform planes of fluorescence resolved? >This is typically what we mean by 'depth sectioning' ability >of wide-filed vs confocal. > >In this case, the widefield microscope does not offer any resolution >(because of missing cone problem). Even at axial distance of 2n*lambda/NA^2 >(theoretically at any axial distance), image of the uniform plane will be >the same as in focus. But image of uniform plane does change in confocal. >The intensity drop in image of uniform plane along axis is equal to >integrated intensity of the PSF in XY plane. Axial profile obtained by >integrating PSF in XY plane (which is the same as axial profile of the OTF) >is widely used definition of depth sectioning. > >Cheers, >Shalin > >website: http://mshalin.com >(office) Lillie 110, (ph) 508-289-7374. > >HFSP Postdoctoral Fellow, >Marine Biological Laboratory, >7 MBL Street, Woods Hole MA 02543, USA > > >On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Zdenek Svindrych <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> Hi Steffen, >> >> nice question! >> >> The resolution can be nicely defined for confocal, where the PSF is >> approximately an ellipsoid, but the widefield case is more complicated. >> In WF case the results depends strongly on how you define 'z-resolution' >> and >> what PSF model you use. >> For example, from the point of view of the 'missing cone' problem of the >> widefield OTF, there is no z-resolution, really. > > >> Also practical test will give you different results whether you're looking >> at fluorescent beads or some structure that is dense in 3D. >> >> So, according to my feelings the highest value from your list is the most >> appropriate... :-). >> >> Regards, >> >> zdenek svindrych >> >> >> >> ---------- PÛvodní zpráva ---------- >> Od: Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]> >> Datum: 21. 1. 2013 >> PÞedmût: formula for z-resolution >> >> "***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> Dear confocalists, >> >> I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited >> resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence >> microscopy: >> >> I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter >> of the Handbook >> >> (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 >> >> where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the >> immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 >> means to the power of 2. >> The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to >> the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. >> The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence >> microscopy". >> >> >> >> In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and >> Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: >> >> (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 >> >> Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. >> However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of >> field" >> >> >> >> Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" >> defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the >> peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, >> Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases >> with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal >> plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) >> >> For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = >> 80% limit: >> >> (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) >> >> This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, >> although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. >> >> >> Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various >> formulas: >> >> (1) 773 nm >> (2) 386 nm >> (3) 272 nm >> >> This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be >> happy if you could clarify this for me. >> >> Steffen >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat >> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München >> Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) >> Head of light microscopy >> >> Mail room: >> Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München >> >> Building location: >> Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern" >> -- James and Christine Pawley, PO Box 2348, 5446 Burley Place (PO Box 2348), Sechelt, BC, Canada, V0N3A0, 604-885-0840 NEW! Cell (when I remember to turn it on!) 1-765-637-1917, <[hidden email]> |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hello Jim, Thanks for pointing out this excellent (and often overlooked as far as I know) reference. Pardon the digression from Steffen's question: Hiraoka et al. paper adds to the remarkable thought that any structured illumination leads to some form of depth sectioning by virtue of having nonzero lateral frequency and hence avoiding missing cone. As I have heard often from structured illumination microscopists, confocal is a structured illumination method too - the illumination structure being the point spread function. Couple of interesting papers based on this idea: M. Neil, R. Juskaitis, and T. Wilson, "Method of obtaining optical sectioning by using structured light in a conventional microscope," Opt. Lett. 22, 1905-1907 (1997). Santos S, Chu KK, Lim D, et al; Optically sectioned fluorescence endomicroscopy with hybrid-illumination imaging through a flexible fiber bundle. J. Biomed. Opt. 0001;14(3):030502-030502-3. Shalin website: http://mshalin.com (office) Lillie 110, (ph) 508-289-7374. HFSP Postdoctoral Fellow, Marine Biological Laboratory, 7 MBL Street, Woods Hole MA 02543, USA On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:10 AM, James Pawley <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy> > ***** > > Hello all, > > I can only add to the many excellent contributions that the widefield case > only has NO z-resolution when the field diaphragm is infinitely large > (i.e., when the illumination power density at the plane of fluorescent > material) does not change as the objective focuses up and down). > > As this is never the case, there is in fact always some z-resolution, and > it can be quite pronounced if the excitation really does fill the objective > aperture and one uses a small field diaphragm. Indeed, some of the best > work on nuclei was done with the field diaphram set to about 5-10µm in the > focus plane and under these conditions the system shows partial-confocal > performance. The Agard and Sedat group wrote a paper detailing this effect > > Hiraoka, Y., Sedat, J.W., and Agard, D.A. (1990). Determination of the > three-dimensional imaging properties of an optical microscope system: > partial confocal behavior in epi-fluorescence microscopy. Biophys. J., 57: > 325-333. > > A careful reading of this paper makes clear why one must control the field > diaphragm diameter (as well as NA, lambda, specimen RI, and other > variables) when determining the widefield PSF. > > Regards, > > Jim Pawley > > > > >> >> Hi Steffen, >> >> I also find it useful to think about spatial frequencies when thinking of >> resolution. I find it instructive to consider two extreme cases (in terms >> of spatial frequencies they contain) to think about depth resolution in >> fluorescence microscope. >> >> case-1: point specimen (a point contains all lateral spatial frequencies). >> - at what axial distance are two points resolved? >> >> The first zero along axis of the 3D PSF occurs at 2n*lambda/NA^2. If we >> employ the Rayleigh criterion used to define lateral two point resolution >> (the zero of one PSF overlaps with the maximum of the other), this is the >> distance by which two points need to be separated to 'be resolved'. The >> exact % drop in intensity from peak differs because the lateral PSF has a >> functional form of jinc^2 whereas the axial PSF has a functional form of >> sinc^2. >> >> The axial cutoff of the OTF depends on the lateral spatial frequency and >> the maximal axial cutoff occurs at lateral frequency=1/2*lateral cutoff. A >> paper by Rainer Heintzmann and Colin Sheppard ( >> http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.**micron.2006.07.017<http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.micron.2006.07.017>) >> has useful derivations of >> equations for cutoffs of OTF in widefield and confocal. >> >> case-2: uniform plane of fluorescence (a plane contains only the zero >> lateral spatial frequency). >> - at what axial distance are two uniform planes of fluorescence resolved? >> This is typically what we mean by 'depth sectioning' ability >> of wide-filed vs confocal. >> >> In this case, the widefield microscope does not offer any resolution >> (because of missing cone problem). Even at axial distance of >> 2n*lambda/NA^2 >> (theoretically at any axial distance), image of the uniform plane will be >> the same as in focus. But image of uniform plane does change in confocal. >> The intensity drop in image of uniform plane along axis is equal to >> integrated intensity of the PSF in XY plane. Axial profile obtained by >> integrating PSF in XY plane (which is the same as axial profile of the >> OTF) >> is widely used definition of depth sectioning. >> >> Cheers, >> Shalin >> >> website: http://mshalin.com >> (office) Lillie 110, (ph) 508-289-7374. >> >> HFSP Postdoctoral Fellow, >> Marine Biological Laboratory, >> 7 MBL Street, Woods Hole MA 02543, USA >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Zdenek Svindrych <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> ***** >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy> >>> ***** >>> >>> Hi Steffen, >>> >>> nice question! >>> >>> The resolution can be nicely defined for confocal, where the PSF is >>> approximately an ellipsoid, but the widefield case is more complicated. >>> In WF case the results depends strongly on how you define 'z-resolution' >>> and >>> what PSF model you use. >>> For example, from the point of view of the 'missing cone' problem of the >>> widefield OTF, there is no z-resolution, really. >>> >> > >> >>> Also practical test will give you different results whether you're >>> looking >>> at fluorescent beads or some structure that is dense in 3D. >>> >>> So, according to my feelings the highest value from your list is the >>> most >>> appropriate... :-). >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> zdenek svindrych >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- PÛvodní zpráva ---------- >>> >>> Od: Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]> >>> Datum: 21. 1. 2013 >>> PÞedmût: formula for z-resolution >>> >>> >>> "***** >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy> >>> ***** >>> >>> Dear confocalists, >>> >>> I am confused about the correct formula for diffraction limmited >>> resolution along the z-axis. Starting with conventional fluoresence >>> microscopy: >>> >>> I used to use the following formula given by Inoue in the first chapter >>> of the Handbook >>> >>> (1) z-min = 2*lambda*n /NA^2 >>> >>> where lambda is the wavelength in air, n the refraction index of the >>> immersion medium, NA the numerical aperture of the objective and ^2 >>> means to the power of 2. >>> The text says that this is the distance from the center of the peak to >>> the first minimum of the diffraction pattern. >>> The same is said by F Quercioli in Diaspro's "Optical Fluorescence >>> microscopy". >>> >>> >>> >>> In the new Murphy and Davidson (Fundamentals of Light Microscopy and >>> Electronic Imaging, 2nd edition, page 109) I find the following formula: >>> >>> (2) z = lambda*n /NA^2 >>> >>> Note that the "2" is missing, suggesting a resolution twice as good. >>> However, this is not explained as Rayleigh criterion but as "depth of >>> field" >>> >>> >>> >>> Formula (2) is also given as "resolution in a conventional microscope" >>> defined as "distance between points where the intensity is 80% of the >>> peak intensity" by Amos, McConnell and Wilson (Confocal Microscop, >>> Chapter in Handbook of Comprehensive Biophysics), but only for cases >>> with an NA <0.5. (Note that the clasical Rayleigh criterion in the focal >>> plane leads to 73,5 % intensity at the minimum between peaks) >>> >>> For high NA objectives Amos et al give the following Depth of field = >>> 80% limit: >>> >>> (3) 0.51*lambda/(n-sqrt(n^2-NA^2)) >>> >>> This paper also gives a formula for theoretical confocal/two photon, >>> although not for resolution but for FWHM, so that is a little different. >>> >>> >>> Example: 500 nm, NA=1.4, n =1.515, resolution according to the various >>> formulas: >>> >>> (1) 773 nm >>> (2) 386 nm >>> (3) 272 nm >>> >>> This sounds very wrong and my gut feeling is I missed something. I'd be >>> happy if you could clarify this for me. >>> >>> Steffen >>> -- >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------ >>> Steffen Dietzel, PD Dr. rer. nat >>> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München >>> Walter-Brendel-Zentrum für experimentelle Medizin (WBex) >>> Head of light microscopy >>> >>> Mail room: >>> Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München >>> >>> Building location: >>> Marchioninistr. 27, München-Großhadern" >>> >>> > > -- > James and Christine Pawley, PO Box 2348, 5446 Burley Place (PO Box 2348), > Sechelt, BC, Canada, V0N3A0, 604-885-0840 NEW! Cell (when I remember to > turn it on!) 1-765-637-1917, <[hidden email]> |
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