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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hello all, We have a number of folks who routinely test the limits of our A1-RS system by collecting for example large and high-resolution atlases of clarified brains (at least the 300 um -1 mm depth that we can reach with an inverted scope). Our coded stage and a software feature in Elements lets us create 3D stacks of very large images stitched together from 16 to 100 individual images per slice. We have found that the alignment can go slightly off from one slice to the next, screwing with our deconvolution and analysis results. This is not by itself shocking; these jobs are asking an awful lot of the system. We have the system pretty well isolated from vibration and air currents and nobody goes near it while collecting. Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job most of the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and some alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this more often – do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? Do you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these big jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage handle alignment on its own? We use a workstation with a decent graphics card and 36 GB of RAM. We can put in a lot more if that will help. Any advice on or off list would be appreciated. Thanks and all the best, TF Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> |
Johannes Schindelin |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi TF, On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Feinstein, Timothy wrote: > Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great > results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the > registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can > produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job most > of the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and > some alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. > > So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this > more often – do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? > Do you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these > big jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage > handle alignment on its own? in Fiji a little over a year ago. My problem was small enough to run completely in computer RAM, though. And the parameters had to be adjusted to the images of course. I also heard that XuvTools (http://www.xuvtools.org/) is supposed to work quite well, but I never tried (I wanted to, and since it claims to be Open Source, I wanted to inspect how it does it in true scientific fashion, but you have to ask for permission to see the source code -- which is actually not Open source -- so I did not). Your mileage may vary. Hope this helps! Johannes |
Straatman, Kees (Dr.) |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear Timothy, We recently had some problems with stitching using NIS-Elements which were resolved by calibrating the stage. The info I received from our Nikon product specialist was: "Go to the Calibration menu and objectives, there is an option on the right to recalibrate objective (ensure the correct objective is selected). In the wizard select the auto option, ensure you have a sample on the stage in focus with good detail. The software will run an autocalibrate and should then stitch correctly." This solved the problem for us. We also noticed that after the camera was slightly turned by accident the stitching did not work properly anymore and we needed to recalibrate. Best wishes Kees Dr Ir K.R. Straatman Senior Experimental Officer Centre for Core Biotechnology Services University of Leicester http://www2.le.ac.uk/colleges/medbiopsych/facilities-and-services/cbs/lite/aif -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Feinstein, Timothy Sent: 02 April 2014 19:11 To: [hidden email] Subject: Aligning large stacks ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hello all, We have a number of folks who routinely test the limits of our A1-RS system by collecting for example large and high-resolution atlases of clarified brains (at least the 300 um -1 mm depth that we can reach with an inverted scope). Our coded stage and a software feature in Elements lets us create 3D stacks of very large images stitched together from 16 to 100 individual images per slice. We have found that the alignment can go slightly off from one slice to the next, screwing with our deconvolution and analysis results. This is not by itself shocking; these jobs are asking an awful lot of the system. We have the system pretty well isolated from vibration and air currents and nobody goes near it while collecting. Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job most of the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and some alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this more often - do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? Do you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these big jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage handle alignment on its own? We use a workstation with a decent graphics card and 36 GB of RAM. We can put in a lot more if that will help. Any advice on or off list would be appreciated. Thanks and all the best, TF Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Timothy, like Kees, we're happy with NIS-Elements stitching, overall. Automatic calibration works best with a high-contrast, continuous sample - tissue sections (even just HE) work fine, e.g. dog ileum (but not, say, breast tissue). Stitching overlap between 5-15% is fine. I did run into problems with too large samples though. A coral I took was ~5k images (x14*y4*z30*ch3), resulting in around a 5GB nd2 file. NIS-Elements subsequently crashed trying to put it together, and the file was corrupted. Luckily, I always save them separately as tifs, and stitched those together. For ease of handling, I collapsed z and stitched maximum intensity projections (and extended depth of field for DIC, using the BIG Lausanne's plugin) together for the big picture, using 3D stitching for smaller ROIs. MosaicJ works fine, as does Stephan Preibisch's. StackReg (BIG Lausanne) often works ok (I only stick with Translation or rigid body, never scaled or affine for obvious reasons). Especially useful is a version using StackReg, called MultiStackReg or MultiStackRegFix (Brad Busse/Ping Fu & Jennifer Staab, resp.), allow saving the transformation matrix for one channel and aligning the next using those parameters. I'd like to do the same for the SIFT-based registration plugin (Stephan Saalfeld), which mostly works really well (parameters sometimes need adjusting) and often gets the job done where StackReg fails. Kind regards Philippe _____________________________________ Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK (0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 [hidden email] privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~plaissue <http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/%7Eplaissue> _____________________________________ Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK (0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 [hidden email] privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~plaissue On 3 April 2014 09:05, Straatman, Kees (Dr.) <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear Timothy, > > We recently had some problems with stitching using NIS-Elements which were > resolved by calibrating the stage. The info I received from our Nikon > product specialist was: > > "Go to the Calibration menu and objectives, there is an option on the > right to recalibrate objective (ensure the correct objective is selected). > In the wizard select the auto option, ensure you have a sample on the stage > in focus with good detail. The software will run an autocalibrate and > should then stitch correctly." > > This solved the problem for us. We also noticed that after the camera was > slightly turned by accident the stitching did not work properly anymore and > we needed to recalibrate. > > Best wishes > > Kees > > > Dr Ir K.R. Straatman > Senior Experimental Officer > Centre for Core Biotechnology Services > University of Leicester > > http://www2.le.ac.uk/colleges/medbiopsych/facilities-and-services/cbs/lite/aif > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Feinstein, Timothy > Sent: 02 April 2014 19:11 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Aligning large stacks > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hello all, > > We have a number of folks who routinely test the limits of our A1-RS > system by collecting for example large and high-resolution atlases of > clarified brains (at least the 300 um -1 mm depth that we can reach with an > inverted scope). Our coded stage and a software feature in Elements lets > us create 3D stacks of very large images stitched together from 16 to 100 > individual images per slice. > > We have found that the alignment can go slightly off from one slice to the > next, screwing with our deconvolution and analysis results. This is not by > itself shocking; these jobs are asking an awful lot of the system. We have > the system pretty well isolated from vibration and air currents and nobody > goes near it while collecting. > > Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great > results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the > registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can > produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job most of > the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and some > alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. > > So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this > more often - do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? Do > you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these big > jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage handle > alignment on its own? > > We use a workstation with a decent graphics card and 36 GB of RAM. We can > put in a lot more if that will help. > > Any advice on or off list would be appreciated. > > Thanks and all the best, > > > TF > > Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager > 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 > Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email]<mailto: > [hidden email]> > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Thanks again to everyone who replied on and off list. We calibrated the objectives as Kees recommended and still found some misalignment. We next tried the same with stitching turned off and the alignment was perfect. Blurring of fine details was a little worse at image borders but not by very much. It turns out that the coded stage really is very good at maintaining a position when imaging 100+ tiled images repeatedly in a large number on z sections. All the best, TF Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email] On 4/3/14, 9:36 AM, "phil laissue" <[hidden email]> wrote: >***** >To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3Ou907qXF6gXlgdAfyFZpLpgH38HKJr2HG1 >GkAd6xg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalmic >roscopy >Post images on >http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3Ou907qXF6gXlgdAfyFZpLpgH38HKJr2HDh >Hwg0ulg&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your >posting. >***** > >Hi Timothy, > >like Kees, we're happy with NIS-Elements stitching, overall. Automatic >calibration works best with a high-contrast, continuous sample - tissue >sections (even just HE) work fine, e.g. dog ileum (but not, say, breast >tissue). Stitching overlap between 5-15% is fine. I did run into problems >with too large samples though. A coral I took was ~5k images >(x14*y4*z30*ch3), resulting in around a 5GB nd2 file. NIS-Elements >subsequently crashed trying to put it together, and the file was >corrupted. >Luckily, I always save them separately as tifs, and stitched those >together. For ease of handling, I collapsed z and stitched maximum >intensity projections (and extended depth of field for DIC, using the BIG >Lausanne's plugin) together for the big picture, using 3D stitching for >smaller ROIs. MosaicJ works fine, as does Stephan Preibisch's. >StackReg (BIG Lausanne) often works ok (I only stick with Translation or >rigid body, never scaled or affine for obvious reasons). Especially useful >is a version using StackReg, called MultiStackReg or MultiStackRegFix >(Brad >Busse/Ping Fu & Jennifer Staab, resp.), allow saving the transformation >matrix for one channel and aligning the next using those parameters. I'd >like to do the same for the SIFT-based registration plugin (Stephan >Saalfeld), which mostly works really well (parameters sometimes need >adjusting) and often gets the job done where StackReg fails. > >Kind regards > >Philippe > >_____________________________________ >Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager >School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 >University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK >(0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 >[hidden email] >http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIGe >V2W8npA&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%7eplaissue ><http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID >3BiWh78g&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%257Eplaissue> > > > > >_____________________________________ >Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager >School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 >University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK >(0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 >[hidden email] >http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIGe >V2W8npA&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%7eplaissue > > >On 3 April 2014 09:05, Straatman, Kees (Dr.) <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> >>http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID >>LC32Z3pg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalm >>icroscopy >> Post images on >>http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIG >>fDjWwj9g&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your >>posting. >> ***** >> >> Dear Timothy, >> >> We recently had some problems with stitching using NIS-Elements which >>were >> resolved by calibrating the stage. The info I received from our Nikon >> product specialist was: >> >> "Go to the Calibration menu and objectives, there is an option on the >> right to recalibrate objective (ensure the correct objective is >>selected). >> In the wizard select the auto option, ensure you have a sample on the >>stage >> in focus with good detail. The software will run an autocalibrate and >> should then stitch correctly." >> >> This solved the problem for us. We also noticed that after the camera >>was >> slightly turned by accident the stitching did not work properly anymore >>and >> we needed to recalibrate. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Kees >> >> >> Dr Ir K.R. Straatman >> Senior Experimental Officer >> Centre for Core Biotechnology Services >> University of Leicester >> >> >>http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID >>aV3z8n9A&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww2%2ele%2eac%2euk%2fcolleges%2fmedbiopsych%2ffa >>cilities-and-services%2fcbs%2flite%2faif >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] >> On Behalf Of Feinstein, Timothy >> Sent: 02 April 2014 19:11 >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Aligning large stacks >> >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> >>http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID >>LC32Z3pg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalm >>icroscopy >> Post images on >>http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIG >>fDjWwj9g&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your >>posting. >> ***** >> >> Hello all, >> >> We have a number of folks who routinely test the limits of our A1-RS >> system by collecting for example large and high-resolution atlases of >> clarified brains (at least the 300 um -1 mm depth that we can reach >>with an >> inverted scope). Our coded stage and a software feature in Elements >>lets >> us create 3D stacks of very large images stitched together from 16 to >>100 >> individual images per slice. >> >> We have found that the alignment can go slightly off from one slice to >>the >> next, screwing with our deconvolution and analysis results. This is >>not by >> itself shocking; these jobs are asking an awful lot of the system. We >>have >> the system pretty well isolated from vibration and air currents and >>nobody >> goes near it while collecting. >> >> Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great >> results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the >> registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can >> produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job >>most of >> the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and >>some >> alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. >> >> So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this >> more often - do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? >> Do >> you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these big >> jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage handle >> alignment on its own? >> >> We use a workstation with a decent graphics card and 36 GB of RAM. We >>can >> put in a lot more if that will help. >> >> Any advice on or off list would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks and all the best, >> >> >> TF >> >> Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager >> 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 >> Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email]<mailto: >> [hidden email]> >> |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Good stages have proper gear backlash correction and the like (takes up the slop between the teeth in the gears), so with a decent motion controller and encoding you can expect good accuracy. Some stages are starting to feature linear motor drive systems which even eliminate the gear backlash issue, so we can only expect things to get even better! Craig On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Feinstein, Timothy < [hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Thanks again to everyone who replied on and off list. We calibrated the > objectives as Kees recommended and still found some misalignment. We next > tried the same with stitching turned off and the alignment was perfect. > Blurring of fine details was a little worse at image borders but not by > very much. It turns out that the coded stage really is very good at > maintaining a position when imaging 100+ tiled images repeatedly in a > large number on z sections. > > All the best, > > > TF > > Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager > 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 > Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email] > > > > > > > > On 4/3/14, 9:36 AM, "phil laissue" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >***** > >To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3Ou907qXF6gXlgdAfyFZpLpgH38HKJr2HG1 > >GkAd6xg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalmic > >roscopy > >Post images on > > > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3Ou907qXF6gXlgdAfyFZpLpgH38HKJr2HDh > >Hwg0ulg&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your > >posting. > >***** > > > >Hi Timothy, > > > >like Kees, we're happy with NIS-Elements stitching, overall. Automatic > >calibration works best with a high-contrast, continuous sample - tissue > >sections (even just HE) work fine, e.g. dog ileum (but not, say, breast > >tissue). Stitching overlap between 5-15% is fine. I did run into problems > >with too large samples though. A coral I took was ~5k images > >(x14*y4*z30*ch3), resulting in around a 5GB nd2 file. NIS-Elements > >subsequently crashed trying to put it together, and the file was > >corrupted. > >Luckily, I always save them separately as tifs, and stitched those > >together. For ease of handling, I collapsed z and stitched maximum > >intensity projections (and extended depth of field for DIC, using the BIG > >Lausanne's plugin) together for the big picture, using 3D stitching for > >smaller ROIs. MosaicJ works fine, as does Stephan Preibisch's. > >StackReg (BIG Lausanne) often works ok (I only stick with Translation or > >rigid body, never scaled or affine for obvious reasons). Especially useful > >is a version using StackReg, called MultiStackReg or MultiStackRegFix > >(Brad > >Busse/Ping Fu & Jennifer Staab, resp.), allow saving the transformation > >matrix for one channel and aligning the next using those parameters. I'd > >like to do the same for the SIFT-based registration plugin (Stephan > >Saalfeld), which mostly works really well (parameters sometimes need > >adjusting) and often gets the job done where StackReg fails. > > > >Kind regards > > > >Philippe > > > >_____________________________________ > >Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager > >School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 > >University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK > >(0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 > >[hidden email] > > > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIGe > >V2W8npA&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%7eplaissue > >< > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID > >3BiWh78g&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%257Eplaissue> > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________ > >Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager > >School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 > >University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK > >(0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 > >[hidden email] > > > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIGe > >V2W8npA&u=http%3a%2f%2fprivatewww%2eessex%2eac%2euk%2f%7eplaissue > > > > > >On 3 April 2014 09:05, Straatman, Kees (Dr.) <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > >> ***** > >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > >> > >> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID > >>LC32Z3pg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalm > >>icroscopy > >> Post images on > >> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIG > >>fDjWwj9g&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your > >>posting. > >> ***** > >> > >> Dear Timothy, > >> > >> We recently had some problems with stitching using NIS-Elements which > >>were > >> resolved by calibrating the stage. The info I received from our Nikon > >> product specialist was: > >> > >> "Go to the Calibration menu and objectives, there is an option on the > >> right to recalibrate objective (ensure the correct objective is > >>selected). > >> In the wizard select the auto option, ensure you have a sample on the > >>stage > >> in focus with good detail. The software will run an autocalibrate and > >> should then stitch correctly." > >> > >> This solved the problem for us. We also noticed that after the camera > >>was > >> slightly turned by accident the stitching did not work properly anymore > >>and > >> we needed to recalibrate. > >> > >> Best wishes > >> > >> Kees > >> > >> > >> Dr Ir K.R. Straatman > >> Senior Experimental Officer > >> Centre for Core Biotechnology Services > >> University of Leicester > >> > >> > >> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID > >>aV3z8n9A&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww2%2ele%2eac%2euk%2fcolleges%2fmedbiopsych%2ffa > >>cilities-and-services%2fcbs%2flite%2faif > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email] > ] > >> On Behalf Of Feinstein, Timothy > >> Sent: 02 April 2014 19:11 > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Subject: Aligning large stacks > >> > >> ***** > >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > >> > >> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZID > >>LC32Z3pg&u=http%3a%2f%2flists%2eumn%2eedu%2fcgi-bin%2fwa%3fA0%3dconfocalm > >>icroscopy > >> Post images on > >> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=129&d=3eu904ma0h6a25H5kaVFITC-PSzasnHZIG > >>fDjWwj9g&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eimgur%2ecom and include the link in your > >>posting. > >> ***** > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> We have a number of folks who routinely test the limits of our A1-RS > >> system by collecting for example large and high-resolution atlases of > >> clarified brains (at least the 300 um -1 mm depth that we can reach > >>with an > >> inverted scope). Our coded stage and a software feature in Elements > >>lets > >> us create 3D stacks of very large images stitched together from 16 to > >>100 > >> individual images per slice. > >> > >> We have found that the alignment can go slightly off from one slice to > >>the > >> next, screwing with our deconvolution and analysis results. This is > >>not by > >> itself shocking; these jobs are asking an awful lot of the system. We > >>have > >> the system pretty well isolated from vibration and air currents and > >>nobody > >> goes near it while collecting. > >> > >> Elements has an alignment feature built in but it does not produce great > >> results from very large images (e.g. 4096 ^2 and up). I have tried the > >> registration plugins menu in Fiji and my current favorite, StackReg, can > >> produce solid results. Rigid body registration seems to do the job > >>most of > >> the time. On the other hand its progress bar is not very helpful and > >>some > >> alignments can take overnight to all weekend, if they work. > >> > >> So I thought it would help to throw this out to those of you who do this > >> more often - do you have a favorite workflow for big-job registrations? > >> Do > >> you have a favorite freeware, Matlab plugin or paid option for these big > >> jobs? Should I stop stitching the images and let the coded stage handle > >> alignment on its own? > >> > >> We use a workstation with a decent graphics card and 36 GB of RAM. We > >>can > >> put in a lot more if that will help. > >> > >> Any advice on or off list would be appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks and all the best, > >> > >> > >> TF > >> > >> Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D. | Confocal Manager > >> 333 Bostwick Ave., N.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49503 > >> Phone: 616-234-5819 | Email: [hidden email]<mailto: > >> [hidden email]> > >> > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear all A friend has just purchased Nikon DS-Ri1 camera with a DS-U3 controller, and he is looking for an open source software to control it. Apparently Micro-Manager does not communicate with the camerea. Any ideas ? Thanks ! Renato Dr. Renato Arruda Mortara Disciplina de Parasitologia Escola Paulista de Medicina - UNIFESP Rua Botucatu, 862 6o. andar 04023-062 São Paulo SP Brasil Fone: 11 5579-8306 VOIP: 5576-4848 R: 2928 [hidden email] www.ecb.epm.br/~ramortara |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** On 5/23/2014 9:49 AM, Renato Mortara wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear all > > A friend has just purchased Nikon DS-Ri1 camera with a DS-U3 controller, > and he is looking for an open source software to control it. Apparently > Micro-Manager does not communicate with the camerea. > > Any ideas ? As far as I know the Nikon cameras are only controllable with NIS-Elements. Kurt > > Thanks ! > > Renato > > > Dr. Renato Arruda Mortara > Disciplina de Parasitologia > Escola Paulista de Medicina - UNIFESP > Rua Botucatu, 862 6o. andar > 04023-062 > São Paulo SP > Brasil > Fone: 11 5579-8306 > VOIP: 5576-4848 R: 2928 > [hidden email] > www.ecb.epm.br/~ramortara > > > -- Kurt Thorn Director, Nikon Imaging Center http://nic.ucsf.edu/blog/ |
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