Anything better or more versatile than DRAQ5 for imaging of nuclei without short wavelength laser ?

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Anything better or more versatile than DRAQ5 for imaging of nuclei without short wavelength laser ?

Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a laser in the UV range.

Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo stable and live cell-permeant.

Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in analysis with our core's instrumentation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.


Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,

Associate Director,
Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center

Associate Professor,
Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
Developmental Biology Center,

University of California, Irvine
2042 Hewitt Hall
Irvine, CA 92697-3940




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hi,
try the Vybrant Dye Cycles from invitrogene (no commercial interest)
Jo

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We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV  
laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-
photon laser to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but  
that laser is going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are  
looking for advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which  
don't require use of a laser in the UV range.

Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and  
tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what  
I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular  
dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily  
be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo  
stable and live cell-permeant.

Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more  
versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and  
improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having  
our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains and  
secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in analysis  
with our core's instrumentation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.


Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,

Associate Director,
Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center

Associate Professor,
Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
Developmental Biology Center,

University of California, Irvine
2042 Hewitt Hall
Irvine, CA 92697-3940
Nuno Moreno Nuno Moreno
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olha outros.

Grant MacGregor wrote:

> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two
> LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one of
> the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to
> excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going
> to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes
> with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a laser
> in the UV range.
>
> Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and
> tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what
> I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular
> dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily
> be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo stable
> and live cell-permeant.
>
> Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more versatile
> than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and improve
> quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having our core
> supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains
> and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in
> analysis with our core's instrumentation.
>
> Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.
>
>
> Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,
>
> Associate Director,
> Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center
>
> Associate Professor,
> Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
> Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
> Developmental Biology Center,
>
> University of California, Irvine
> 2042 Hewitt Hall
> Irvine, CA 92697-3940
>
>
>
>
Tobias Baskin Tobias Baskin
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Greetings

I don't know off hand the tech specs of your instruments but I wanted
to mention that DAPI can be nicely excited with a 405 nm laser line.
You don't need UV.
                        Tobias Baskin



>Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two
>LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one
>of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser
>to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is
>going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for
>advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't
>require use of a laser in the UV range.
>
>Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and
>tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what
>I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular
>dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can
>easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively
>photo stable and live cell-permeant.
>
>Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more
>versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and
>improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having
>our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains
>and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in
>analysis with our core's instrumentation.
>
>Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.
>
>
>Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,
>
>Associate Director,
>Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center
>
>Associate Professor,
>Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
>Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
>Developmental Biology Center,
>
>University of California, Irvine
>2042 Hewitt Hall
>Irvine, CA 92697-3940


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Our users use TOPRO3 from Invitrogen.


 
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Tobias Baskin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Greetings

I don't know off hand the tech specs of your instruments but I wanted to mention that DAPI can be nicely excited with a 405 nm laser line. You don't need UV.
                       Tobias Baskin




Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a laser in the UV range.

Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo stable and live cell-permeant.

Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in analysis with our core's instrumentation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.


Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,

Associate Director,
Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center

Associate Professor,
Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
Developmental Biology Center,

University of California, Irvine
2042 Hewitt Hall
Irvine, CA 92697-3940


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Fixed or live tissues?  To-Pro-3 is membrane impermeant to most live  
cell types, but labels well after fixation.  Use a high concentration  
to account for its bleaching.  You may want to avoid Alexa594 in  
combination since it excites with 633-638 nm lasers sufficiently to  
appear in the far red channel.

regards,
Glen



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On May 27, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Grant MacGregor wrote:

> Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi- 
> bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is  
> equipped with a UV laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users  
> currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to excite DAPI and  
> Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going to be  
> moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes  
> with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a  
> laser in the UV range.
>
> Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and  
> tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From  
> what I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most  
> popular dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it  
> can easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also  
> relatively photo stable and live cell-permeant.
>
> Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more  
> versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and  
> improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of  
> having our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid  
> stains and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for  
> use in analysis with our core's instrumentation.
>
> Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.
>
>
> Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,
>
> Associate Director,
> Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center
>
> Associate Professor,
> Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
> Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
> Developmental Biology Center,
>
> University of California, Irvine
> 2042 Hewitt Hall
> Irvine, CA 92697-3940
>
>
>
>
Jean Brennan Jean Brennan
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DRAQ5 works just like DAPI on but emits in far-red so it's nice for confocal systems that doesn't have a UV laser.  The staining with DRAQ5 is as easy as DAPI and the dilution is 1:5000.   It was developed for the FACScan so it can be exited by a 488 laser and still emit over 633.  If you want to use more channels above 600 it's very difficult to subtract the DRAQ5 signal.   To-Pro 3 has a very tight emittion spectrum and would allow you to use 680 and about with it.  I have used To-pro 3 with fixed cells only.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Jean
 
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>>> Grant MacGregor <[hidden email]> 05/27/08 10:00 PM >>>
Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a laser in the UV range.

Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo stable and live cell-permeant.

Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in analysis with our core's instrumentation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.


Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,

Associate Director,
Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center

Associate Professor,
Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
Developmental Biology Center,

University of California, Irvine
2042 Hewitt Hall
Irvine, CA 92697-3940




Bruno Saubaméa Bruno Saubaméa
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Hi,
we routinely use TO-PRO 3 (Invitrogen). It gives a strong staining of DNA with no staining of RNA and is therefore perfect for nucleus counterstaining. On the contrary TOTO3 stains RNA (although less than DNA) and requires a RNAse treatment for good results. Also TOPRO3 (~280 euros/ml) is far cheaper than TOTO3 (~500 euros/ml).
We use it a a concentration of 1/1000 (10 min for adherent cells, 20 min for thick tissue sections) in PBS. Take care to (1) not overrinse after staining (2x5 min is enough) since TOPRO3 can be washed out and (2) image it with a low laser intensity (10% of 633nm laser line on a leica TCS SP2) to prevent photobleaching.
Best regards
Bruno
 
 
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Subject: Anything better or more versatile than DRAQ5 for imaging of nuclei without short wavelength laser ?

Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal We have two LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a UV laser.  On one of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa multi-photon laser to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc, but that laser is going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are looking for advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei, which don't require use of a laser in the UV range.

Our users employ different species (fly, fish, mammalian cells and tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and mCherry).  From what I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of the most popular dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the far-red, so it can easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's also relatively photo stable and live cell-permeant.

Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that might be more versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally, to save money and improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a system of having our core supply investigators with aliquots of nucleic acid stains and secondary antibodies, which we know will be robust for use in analysis with our core's instrumentation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.


Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,

Associate Director,
Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center

Associate Professor,
Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine & Genetics,
Developmental Biology Center,

University of California, Irvine
2042 Hewitt Hall
Irvine, CA 92697-3940




Luis A. Rivera Luis A. Rivera
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June 2, 2008

Hi! Topias and Members:

I have read from the Bioprobes 52 Newsletter from
Molecular Probes that their proprietary Vybrant
DyeCycle stains can be used for quantification in flow
cytometry when dyes that bind to DNA in a
stoichiometric manner are required.The Vybrant
DyeCYcle stains are DNA-selective, cell
membrane-permeant dyes that show greatly enhanced
fluorescence when bound to DNA and are available in
versions that can excited by 405, 488, or 532 nm
lasers as they claim. Their catalog numbers are
V35003, V35004, and V35005, respectively. Reference
provided by Molecular Probes is Telford, William G et
al. (2007) Stem CElls (in press). I am planning to try
them for the first time.

Luis A. Rivera, PhD
Laboratory of Organic Chemistry, Photochemistry, and
Nanobiotechnology
University of Puerto Rico at Mayaguez
Puerto Rico, USA
--- Tobias Baskin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>
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>
> Greetings
>
> I don't know off hand the tech specs of your
> instruments but I wanted
> to mention that DAPI can be nicely excited with a
> 405 nm laser line.
> You don't need UV.
> Tobias Baskin
>
>
>
> >Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>
>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
> We have two
> >LSM510 META's, neither of which is equipped with a
> UV laser.  On one
> >of the 510 META's, users currently employ a TiSa
> multi-photon laser
> >to excite DAPI and Hoechst and activate GFP's etc,
> but that laser is
> >going to be moving to a new system.  Hence, we are
> looking for
> >advice on dyes with which to counter stain nuclei,
> which don't
> >require use of a laser in the UV range.
> >
> >Our users employ different species (fly, fish,
> mammalian cells and
> >tissues) and all the usual xFP's (C-,Y-, G- and
> mCherry).  From what
> >I've seen in the literature and at meetings, one of
> the most popular
> >dyes appears to be DRAQ5.  This emits in the
> far-red, so it can
> >easily be resolved from the other reporters. It's
> also relatively
> >photo stable and live cell-permeant.
> >
> >Does anyone have advice on alternative dyes that
> might be more
> >versatile than DRAQ5 for such purposes ? Ideally,
> to save money and
> >improve quality of reagents, we'd like to develop a
> system of having
> >our core supply investigators with aliquots of
> nucleic acid stains
> >and secondary antibodies, which we know will be
> robust for use in
> >analysis with our core's instrumentation.
> >
> >Thanks for any advice you can offer on this matter.
> >
> >
> >Grant MacGregor  D. Phil.,
> >
> >Associate Director,
> >Optical Biology Core, Developmental Biology Center
> >
> >Associate Professor,
> >Department of Developmental and Cell Biology,
> >Center for Molecular & Mitochondrial Medicine &
> Genetics,
> >Developmental Biology Center,
> >
> >University of California, Irvine
> >2042 Hewitt Hall
> >Irvine, CA 92697-3940
>
>
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