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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
 Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
 If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire
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Claire

You are correct D263 is the currently used name for Desag 263 glass It is a Schott glass from Germany. It has been the standard for cell compatibility for over 32 years that I know of. It is the only type of coverglass we use in our Bioptechs products. What size do you need?

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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire

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Hi Claire
I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be helpful.
In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.
Best wishes
Julia

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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
 Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
 If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire
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Hi Everyone,

I use coverglass from Carolina Biological Supply for my primary neuron cultures, coated in poly-L-lysine. According to their site, it’s the "the famous Deutsche Spiegelglas.” Maybe the D stands for Germany :) ! Good luck! https://www.carolina.com/catalog/detail.jsp?prodId=633037&s_cid=ppc_gl_products&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&scid=scplp633037&sc_intid=633037&gclid=CjwKCAjwnrjrBRAMEiwAXsCc48U2hkpOztMo9SuwpAQWeg1rqXsF8Hye8tA_TgnKua9gIfHuswOSBhoCFEIQAvD_BwE

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Hi Claire
I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be helpful.
In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.
Best wishes
Julia

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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire
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Does the D stand for poly-D-lysine? This is the enantiomer or mirror image of ploy-L-lysine. It has the exact same chemical characteristics for coating and binding cells but is thought to be less likely to be metabolised by the cells in culture as this enantiomer is not found in nature.

Either version can be bought from https://www.neuvitro.com/

Cheers,
David

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Hi Everyone,

I use coverglass from Carolina Biological Supply for my primary neuron cultures, coated in poly-L-lysine. According to their site, it’s the "the famous Deutsche Spiegelglas.” Maybe the D stands for Germany :) ! Good luck! https://www.carolina.com/catalog/detail.jsp?prodId=633037&s_cid=ppc_gl_products&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&scid=scplp633037&sc_intid=633037&gclid=CjwKCAjwnrjrBRAMEiwAXsCc48U2hkpOztMo9SuwpAQWeg1rqXsF8Hye8tA_TgnKua9gIfHuswOSBhoCFEIQAvD_BwE

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Hi Claire
I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be helpful.
In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.
Best wishes
Julia

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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire
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A few months ago, when dealing with a lab that said it was "impossible" to grow neurons on glass, I tallied some searches.  Most of the papers cited poly-L-lysine and a few other coatings such as fibronectin.


The labs I have worked with, dating back to the 1990s pre-GFP, have grown various types of neuronal cultures in chambers such as MatTek dishes.


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Hi Everyone,

I use coverglass from Carolina Biological Supply for my primary neuron cultures, coated in poly-L-lysine. According to their site, it’s the "the famous Deutsche Spiegelglas.” Maybe the D stands for Germany :) ! Good luck! https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.carolina.com_catalog_detail.jsp-3FprodId-3D633037-26s-5Fcid-3Dppc-5Fgl-5Fproducts-26utm-5Fsource-3Dgoogle-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dcpc-26scid-3Dscplp633037-26sc-5Fintid-3D633037-26gclid-3DCjwKCAjwnrjrBRAMEiwAXsCc48U2hkpOztMo9SuwpAQWeg1rqXsF8Hye8tA-5FTgnKua9gIfHuswOSBhoCFEIQAvD-5FBwE&d=DwIGaQ&c=j5oPpO0eBH1iio48DtsedeElZfc04rx3ExJHeIIZuCs&r=E0xNnPAQpUbDiPlC50tp7rW2nBkvV7fujQf0RknE5bU&m=xBoIPE2HCh2ZOfmVqCeuCqdTYEY86DVuWuglrRVSHA8&s=yVYoHXmgwizOON6rENNgNiuRPsNrmTCzUFz-m8ZXsjE&e=

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Hi Claire
I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be helpful.
In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.
Best wishes
Julia

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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.

I thought someone here might know.

For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.


Sincerely,

Claire
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We have grown rat E18 neurons for decades on glass coated with poly -D-lysine. Coating is tricky though: it requires pretreatment with a strong acid. We therefore usually order PDL-coated dishes from Mattek, but still re-coat them with fresh PDL on the day of the plating.

For multi-well plates we now use plastic bottom dishes with coverslip thickness plastic which can be imaged with oil objectives. Neurons love growing on plastic.

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> In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.
> Best wishes
> Julia
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> Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.
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Re: Coverslips for Primary Neuronal Cultures

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The Carolina Biological Supply link is to No 1 (too thin for most
objectives, or at least those noting they are designed to image through
170um thick glass). I've noticed this about a couple other labs' usage of
specific coverslips for neuronal cultures. Perhaps some precedent was set a
long time ago?

Dan (of Bioptechs), do you have No 1.5 coverslips of this D263 glass?  I
have labs that want 12mm circles, but I also have an application for 25mm
circles.

By the way, I'm interested myself for info for people who use my core
facility (separate from the original post).

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> I use coverglass from Carolina Biological Supply for my primary neuron
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> I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be
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> In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated
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> A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.
>
> I thought someone here might know.
>
> For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used
> "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade
> now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have
> been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.
> Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass,
> Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and
> Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D"
> refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate
> equivalents.
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Hi everyone



No problem growing primary neurons on glass. Might depend on how healthy the cells are to start with. I used to coat with laminin.

We routinely clean our coverslip with 1M HCl (which we recycle) and store them in water until sterilization/usage. See our short video here<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5_JsPPQTxo&feature=emb_title>.



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A few months ago, when dealing with a lab that said it was "impossible" to grow neurons on glass, I tallied some searches.  Most of the papers cited poly-L-lysine and a few other coatings such as fibronectin.





The labs I have worked with, dating back to the 1990s pre-GFP, have grown various types of neuronal cultures in chambers such as MatTek dishes.





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I use coverglass from Carolina Biological Supply for my primary neuron cultures, coated in poly-L-lysine. According to their site, it's the "the famous Deutsche Spiegelglas." Maybe the D stands for Germany :) ! Good luck! https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.carolina.com_catalog_detail.jsp-3FprodId-3D633037-26s-5Fcid-3Dppc-5Fgl-5Fproducts-26utm-5Fsource-3Dgoogle-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dcpc-26scid-3Dscplp633037-26sc-5Fintid-3D633037-26gclid-3DCjwKCAjwnrjrBRAMEiwAXsCc48U2hkpOztMo9SuwpAQWeg1rqXsF8Hye8tA-5FTgnKua9gIfHuswOSBhoCFEIQAvD-5FBwE%26d%3DDwIGaQ%26c%3Dj5oPpO0eBH1iio48DtsedeElZfc04rx3ExJHeIIZuCs%26r%3DE0xNnPAQpUbDiPlC50tp7rW2nBkvV7fujQf0RknE5bU%26m%3DxBoIPE2HCh2ZOfmVqCeuCqdTYEY86DVuWuglrRVSHA8%26s%3DyVYoHXmgwizOON6rENNgNiuRPsNrmTCzUFz-m8ZXsjE%26e&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csylvie.le.guyader%40KI.SE%7C9b0fb4b38abe4a5fd7bd08d79e0f345b%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637151660455137754&amp;sdata=lV4D1wev8IjyTDONX%2Bl6ZUeMKcR7rADbek9Q9emSs5s%3D&amp;reserved=0=



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Hi Claire

I can't answer you actual question, but this information might still be helpful.

In my experience, neurons adhere much better to glass coverslips coated with poly-L-lysine in boric acid buffer versus poly-L-lysine in water. The difference is remarkable.

Best wishes

Julia



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A colleague of mine asked me this but I'm not familiar with "D" Coverslips.



I thought someone here might know.



For microscopy with our primary neuron cultures, we have successfully used "D" coverslips from Fisher (12-CIR-1D, #12-545-82) for at least a decade now, but the product is now discontinued. Historically, D coverslips have been recommended for neurons because neurons adhere and grow better on them.

Am I correct that the "D" refers to a particular type of German glass, Schott D263M? I've found that Electron Microscopy Sciences, Ted Pella, and Thorlabs seem to sell coverslips made with Schott 263M glass. Or does "D" refer to "desag", in that case I'm not sure I've found appropriate equivalents.

If you have any recommendations and insights, or other suppliers to consider, I'm all ears.





Sincerely,



Claire



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