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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins for
FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville
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Hi Syed Khundmiri,


The basic requirements for FRET are: 1) The biomolecules tagged with
fluorophores are located in the nanometer range; 2) The acceptor absorption
spectrum overlaps with the donor emission spectrum.   There are some
commonly used donor-acceptor pairs, including AlexaFluor dyes.


TIRF is a high sensitivity fluorescence technique with which you can image
cellular structures located in the range 0-150nm above the coverslip, so
your cells should be flat and adherent to the coverslip.


 Generally, you can use FRET and TIRF for both live cells and fixed cells.


Gary G. Li, Ph.D.

Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
Baltimore, MD 21224

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> Hi all,
>
> I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged
> proteins for
> FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
> using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references
> and
> how to.
>
> Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
> AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Syed Khundmiri
> University of Louisville
>
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Dear Syed,

If the fluorescent tag does not cause mis-localization or aggregation of a
protein of interest, I recommend to use CeFP (Dave Piston) and the "late
edition" of the standard EYFP (with the F64L substitution) as the fluorescence
tags, and 440nm diode (or 427/10 nm Semrock excitation filter), 514 nm Argon
line (504/12 nm exciter, Semrock) and 472/30nm and 542/27nm emission filters,
also Semrock. TIRF or wide-field is the best optical systems for the sensitized
emission FRET.

Good luck,

Vitaly
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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins
for

FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville



     
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PS Live cells would give you better and reproducible data than the fixed
material.

Dear Syed,

If the fluorescent tag does not cause mis-localization or aggregation of a
protein of interest, I recommend to use CeFP (Dave Piston) and the "late
edition" of the standard EYFP (with the F64L substitution) as the fluorescence
tags, and 440nm diode (or 427/10 nm Semrock excitation filter), 514 nm Argon
line (504/12 nm exciter, Semrock) and 472/30nm and 542/27nm emission filters,
also Semrock. TIRF or wide-field is the best optical systems for the sensitized
emission FRET.

Good luck,

Vitaly
301-515-7833



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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins
for

FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville



     
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Hi Syed,

We used cells labeled with antibodies coupled to Alexas for FRET with success. The Alexa pairs we used were 488&555 and 568&633.

Best regards,

Laurent.

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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins for
FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville
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Dear All
It has been widely used fixed cell for FRET. We recently found out that the E% decreases for the fixed cells versus live cell. We also found out that the fixative reduces the E%. you can clearly see the change in E% in the lifetime FRET imaging. We did not see much change in E% if you collect the data within few days after the cells are fixed. We used both formaldehyde and methanol as fixative. We are finalizing the data and plan to submit soon for a journal and I will post later as soon as it published.
We also train the participants in our annual hands on training FRET workshop during March in the FLIM-FRET system live versus fixed cell.
Not a good idea to use fixed cell for FRET or any fixed sample in the TIRF system. You are working with evanescent wave in the TIRF system with nanometer depth and it is require a alive specimen.
Hope this helps
Ammasi

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Director, Keck Center for Cellular Imaging (KCCI)
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Hi Syed,

We used cells labeled with antibodies coupled to Alexas for FRET with success. The Alexa pairs we used were 488&555 and 568&633.

Best regards,

Laurent.

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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins for
FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville
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To add to the issues in comparing fixed and live cell results, unrelated to reagent choice, this November's Microscopy Today issue has an article on AFM imaging of live and fixed cells by A. Berquand et al, page 8-14.

U2-OS cells shrunk from 14 microns in height to 5 microns after gluteraldehyde fixation.  Not much change in lateral spacing, but a ~65% change (collapse) in Z needs to be considered in relating fixed specimen FRET results to live cell results.  

Mike Ignatius

Molecular Probes/LifeTechnologies

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Dear All
It has been widely used fixed cell for FRET. We recently found out that the E% decreases for the fixed cells versus live cell. We also found out that the fixative reduces the E%. you can clearly see the change in E% in the lifetime FRET imaging. We did not see much change in E% if you collect the data within few days after the cells are fixed. We used both formaldehyde and methanol as fixative. We are finalizing the data and plan to submit soon for a journal and I will post later as soon as it published.
We also train the participants in our annual hands on training FRET workshop during March in the FLIM-FRET system live versus fixed cell.
Not a good idea to use fixed cell for FRET or any fixed sample in the TIRF system. You are working with evanescent wave in the TIRF system with nanometer depth and it is require a alive specimen.
Hope this helps
Ammasi

Prof. Ammasi Periasamy
Director, Keck Center for Cellular Imaging (KCCI)
Biology, Gilmer Hall (064), 485 McCormick Rd
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904
Voice: 434-243-7602 (Office); 982-4869 (lab)
Fax:434-982-5210; Email:[hidden email]
http://www.kcci.virginia.edu/Contact/peri.php
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Hi Syed,

We used cells labeled with antibodies coupled to Alexas for FRET with success. The Alexa pairs we used were 488&555 and 568&633.

Best regards,

Laurent.

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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins for
FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville
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Thank you all for your valuable suggestions.
 
We are using neutrophils for our studies. They are suspension cells and do not attach to the glass slides unless fixed with paraformaldehyde. However, if we incubate the cells for an hour they will settle down and attach loosely to collagen coated plates. They do not survive more than few hours and therefore we cannot do any transfections. However, we know that they take up antibodies. If I let them settle down and do not fix them with paraformaldehyde, then is it possible to do FRET/TIRF in these cells using fluorescent antibodies???
 
Syed
 
 
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University of Louisville
 

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To add to the issues in comparing fixed and live cell results, unrelated to reagent choice, this November's Microscopy Today issue has an article on AFM imaging of live and fixed cells by A. Berquand et al, page 8-14.

U2-OS cells shrunk from 14 microns in height to 5 microns after gluteraldehyde fixation.  Not much change in lateral spacing, but a ~65% change (collapse) in Z needs to be considered in relating fixed specimen FRET results to live cell results.  

Mike Ignatius

Molecular Probes/LifeTechnologies

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Dear All
It has been widely used fixed cell for FRET. We recently found out that the E% decreases for the fixed cells versus live cell. We also found out that the fixative reduces the E%. you can clearly see the change in E% in the lifetime FRET imaging. We did not see much change in E% if you collect the data within few days after the cells are fixed. We used both formaldehyde and methanol as fixative. We are finalizing the data and plan to submit soon for a journal and I will post later as soon as it published.
We also train the participants in our annual hands on training FRET workshop during March in the FLIM-FRET system live versus fixed cell.
Not a good idea to use fixed cell for FRET or any fixed sample in the TIRF system. You are working with evanescent wave in the TIRF system with nanometer depth and it is require a alive specimen.
Hope this helps
Ammasi

Prof. Ammasi Periasamy
Director, Keck Center for Cellular Imaging (KCCI)
Biology, Gilmer Hall (064), 485 McCormick Rd
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904
Voice: 434-243-7602 (Office); 982-4869 (lab)
Fax:434-982-5210; Email:[hidden email]
http://www.kcci.virginia.edu/Contact/peri.php
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Hi Syed,

We used cells labeled with antibodies coupled to Alexas for FRET with success. The Alexa pairs we used were 488&555 and 568&633.

Best regards,

Laurent.

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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins for
FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville
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Fluorescent bacteriophage

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Hello Everybody,
                                 Does anyone have an idea of where I can
purchase fluorescent bacteriophages.

Thanks,

-Prabhakar
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It is possible to do TIRF with fixed cells as long as you keep them in PBS so that
the refractive index difference at the interface with the glass is appropriate for
TIRF. Don't know about TIRF-FRET with fixed cells. I defer to Peri on that.

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Excellent.

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It is possible to do TIRF with fixed cells as long as you keep them in PBS
so that
the refractive index difference at the interface with the glass is
appropriate for
TIRF. Don't know about TIRF-FRET with fixed cells. I defer to Peri on that.

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Hy Syed,

Suspension cells could be also transfected while in suspension state and
immobilized on the coated coverglass immediately before imaging. Yes, antibody
based FRET works but it is much harder to get impressive and accurate
quantitative data with the antibody based FRET, as the FRET signal is usually
weak. However, if you would be happy with the 'YES FRET' and 'NO FRET' readout,
then the antibody based approach could be OK.

Cheers,

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Hi Syed,

We used cells labeled with antibodies coupled to Alexas for FRET with success.
The Alexa pairs we used were 488&555 and 568&633.

Best regards,

Laurent.

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Hi all,

I am a novice in the field. I use live cells transfected with tagged proteins
for

FRET and TIRF microscopy. My question is can one use fixed cells for FRET
using AlexaFluor antibodies?? If yes, please guide me to some references and
how to.

Another question is has someone used TAT-fusion peptides labelled with
AlexaFluor for TIRF and FRET??

Best Regards,

Syed Khundmiri
University of Louisville