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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** From Dr. Asanov: ----------------------- Dear Joshua, Theoretically, the laser damage threshold for the microscope objective can be as low as 1-5 mW, which is close to the eye-damaging power. In the case of eye exposure, our reflexes make us blink or turn away from bright light. In the case of a microscope objective, continuous exposure potentially can cause damage to the glue and other organic and inorganic compounds in the objective. The damaging factor is the intensity - optical power per unit surface area. As we know, 100-1,000 Watts/cm2 causes rapid photobleaching of organic fluorophores, while >10,000 Watts/cm2 initiates burning of organic materials. The intensity, which can be generated by a laser, depends on the radiance, which is defined as optical power per unit surface area per unit sterical angle. The radiance of a 1 mW laser with 1 mm beam diameter and a typical divergence of 1 milli-radian is ~1.6 x 100,000 Watts/cm2-steradian. In comparison, the Sun’s radiance is only ~100 Watts/cm2-steradian. Due to this unique feature, 1 mW of such laser focused into a 1-micron produces the intensity ~100,000 Watts/cm2, which is sufficient for burning. Thus, the damage threshold depends on the radiance, which is the measure of the “focus-ability” of the laser. Naturally, for fiber-coupled lasers the radiance is different from that before coupling. One more important factor is related to foreign inclusions and other imperfections at the surface and in the bulk of optical materials of the objective, including lens glue. These imperfections provoke the “nucleation” of burning. It is not the question of “whether”, but rather “how much” of imperfections are present in your objective. Dr. Sripad Ram mentioned about a dry objective with large inclusion he dealt with. Large inclusions are rare. Microscopic imperfections are common. We in TIRF Labs tested eleven high NA objectives made by Olympus and Nikon. Those lenses did not contain visually detectable imperfections, but produced a significant amount of stray light – from 15% to 45% of the evanescent wave at the surface. Surprisingly, the same model objectives, from the same manufacturer yielded different amounts of stay light. The articles cited at TIRF Labs website analyze the sources of stray light in TIRF experiments. I remember, Joshua, you mentioned that the amount of stray light is not important for your STORM/PALM experiments. Nevertheless, if you are concerned about the laser damage, looking at the amount of stray light could help you to rank the objectives by their resistance to the laser damage. Best regards, Alexander N. Asanov, Ph.D. President, TIRF Labs Cary, NC 27519 [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> www.tirf-labs.com <http://www.tirf-labs.com/> www.TIRFmicroscopy.com <http://www.tirfmicroscopy.com/> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Thanks for several thoughtful replies. I have a couple of follow up points. Is anyone aware of damage threshold data for objective lenses, from Nikon or other manufacturers? It seems many people suspect glue damage for my lens. I asked my local Nikon sales rep but he was unable to get data for me. Does anybody have a favorite objective lens for STORM/PALM among the following Nikon lenses? I'm intrigued by #4, below, which is rated for high power (Seamus mentioned). 1. CFI Plan Apo Lambda 100X Oil 1.45 NA (current lens) 2. CFI Plan Apo Lambda DM 100X Oil 1.45 NA 3. CFI Apo SR TIRF 100X Oil 1.49 NA 4. CFI HP Apochromat TIRF 100x oil 1.49 NA To John Oreopoulos... No, we don't need 1W lasers for imaging. We generally work with up to 50-100 mW for the 488/561/647/750 nm lines and use the rest of the laser power for other stuff including spectroscopy experiments. For the 405 nm line, it is typically below 1 mW, but considering our test which showed 405 nm is likely the problem, I wonder if a user may have blasted with 405 nm at some point leading to damage that got worse with repeated use even at lower power. Joshua C. Vaughan Assistant Professor Department of Chemistry Box 351700 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> |
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