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Fwd: Re: 12- to 16-bit images

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On 03-Feb-11 18:12, Jerry (Gerald) Sedgewick wrote:

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>  I would like to make a table of manufacturer's image formats that
>  separate scaled 16-bit images from those image formats in which
>  12-bits of tonal data (0-4095 tones) are placed in a 16-bit (0-65,535)
>  "package."
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>  As an example, images saved as 16-bit TIFF files in SPOT software are
>  scaled from 12-bits to 16-bits, so these contain the full range of
>  tones (at least in earlier versions of the software).

Hi Jerry,
I am a bit surprised by this choice. This stretch that change a 0-4095
range to 16 times more must either occur through interpolation, which is
not right (your raw data is not raw anymore), or leave some bin values
empty.

The choice of leaving the 4 large bits is at least consistent. And
adapting to 16-bit image is only a problem of changing the display,
which can't anyway display properly 12 or 16 bits.

What is your opinion on this? What are your motivation for the list?

cheers
jy

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Re: 12- to 16-bit images

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That's exactly right. Stretching 12-bit raw data to 16-bit totally changes
the image data. I wonder which vendor will do that.

Maybe the purpose of the list is to find out the bad guys to be avoided?

Tao

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jean-Yves Tinevez <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> On 03-Feb-11 18:12, Jerry (Gerald) Sedgewick wrote:
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>>  To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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>>  I would like to make a table of manufacturer's image formats that
>>  separate scaled 16-bit images from those image formats in which
>>  12-bits of tonal data (0-4095 tones) are placed in a 16-bit (0-65,535)
>>  "package."
>>
>>  As an example, images saved as 16-bit TIFF files in SPOT software are
>>  scaled from 12-bits to 16-bits, so these contain the full range of
>>  tones (at least in earlier versions of the software).
>>
>
> Hi Jerry,
> I am a bit surprised by this choice. This stretch that change a 0-4095
> range to 16 times more must either occur through interpolation, which is
> not right (your raw data is not raw anymore), or leave some bin values
> empty.
>
> The choice of leaving the 4 large bits is at least consistent. And
> adapting to 16-bit image is only a problem of changing the display,
> which can't anyway display properly 12 or 16 bits.
>
> What is your opinion on this? What are your motivation for the list?
>
> cheers
> jy
>
> --
> Jean-Yves Tinevez
> PFID - Imagopole
> Institut Pasteur
> 25-28, rue du Docteur Roux
> 75724 Paris cedex 15
> France
> tel: +33 1 40 61 35 40
>



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