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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear group members, I have a very simple question that I require help with. Unfortunately our confocal expert has been booked off for three months and I am struggling. I am using a Zeiss LSM 510 Meta. I am viewing bacteria using a 100 x oil immersion objective. I have stained my cells with Nile Red or Draq 7 and I am using the crop function to get suitable images of single cells. I am planning to publish my work, but I have no idea how to obtain a DIC image or suitable image that will allow me overlay my flourescent image of single cells. Is it possible to use the crop/zoom function of the software to obtain a DIC image of the same cell at the same magnification? Thank you in advance |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Shane, Most LSM510's have a transmitted light detector (PMT-T?). Just turn it on, adjust the gain and offset. If your LSM has DIC optics, you can put those in the light path (more on this below), but brightfield is fine for most scientific needs. Zoom to the optimum pixel size for resolution needed for your study -- that also enables imaging the fluorophores without photobleaching. Generally, you just need a single image plane, so bleaching is not a problem. For confocal 1.4 NA objective lens imaging, I like 60 nm pixel size (see previous discussions on the confocal listserv). You can use IRM with very low laser light to find consistent focus (see later). DIC on Zeiss LSM510, also the Zeiss LSM710 I managed in Miami: Zeiss did not "nail the landing" on IRM on these confocal microscopes. To get DIC by eye, the polarizers needed to be in (excitation side) and at 90 degrees on the emission side. This enabled beautiful images (if the specimen was nice). The LSM510 had a manual polarizer slider that needed to be slid out manually - which was ok. Where Zeiss "fell flat" is that the polarizer between the condenser and the PMT-T needed to be manually moved 90 degrees by the user because the lasers were all linearly polarizer differntly than the widefield path. All Zeiss had to do was have the polarizer in the slider be "dropped in" so the two light paths matched. These are half million dollar (more or less) confocal microscopes, the crucial light path is the confocal optical path: getting that perfect is what matters. Even if the by-eye-DIC is not perfect, doesn't matter. Consistent focusing tip: IRM is a great way to find the focus of the coverglass-cell/media interface. If you do not need that focal plane, you can drive ther microscope Z-focus upwards (I'm assuming inverted scope) consistently to wherever you need to be. This is much more consistent than having a biochemist, molecular biologist, cell biologist, or even microscopist, arbitrarily guessing "best focus" for each field of view. Or "drive" downwards several um, then up be a few um (i.e. -8 um then +5 um), to consistently start Z-series at a consistent plane (-3 um in this example). Interference reflection microscopy contrast (IRM aka RICM) worked well on the LSM510 I managed in Miami. Figure 2 of Jiang ... Lossos et al 2010 Blood, panels C and F have confocal IRM images, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3012539/figure/F2/ Dr. Xiaoyu Jiang and I acquired these images on our LSM510 with "0", +2, and +4 um image planes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20844236 Jiang X(1), Lu X, McNamara G, Liu X, Cubedo E, Sarosiek KA, Sánchez-García I, Helfman DM, Lossos IS 2010 HGAL, a germinal center specific protein, decreases lymphoma cell motility by modulation of the RhoA signaling pathway. Blood 116: 5217-5227. doi: 10.1182/blood-2010-04-281568. Sylvester Comprehensive Cancer Center, University of Miami, Miami, FL, USA. HGAL is a germinal center (GC)-specific gene that negatively regulates lymphocyte motility and whose expression predicts improved survival of patients with diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) and classical Hodgkin lymphoma (cHL). We demonstrate that HGAL serves as a regulator of the RhoA signaling pathway. HGAL enhances activation of RhoA and its down-stream effectors by a novel mechanism - direct binding to the catalytic DH-domain of the RhoA-specific guanine nucleotide exchange factors (RhoGEFs) PDZ-RhoGEF and LARG that stimulate the GDP-GTP exchange rate of RhoA. We delineate the structural domain of HGAL that mediates its interaction with the PDZ-RhoGEF protein. These observations reveal a novel molecular mechanism underlying the inhibitory effects of GC-specific HGAL protein on the motility of GC-derived lymphoma cells. This mechanism may underlie the limited dissemination and better outcome of patients with HGAL-expressing DLBCL and cHL. PMCID: PMC3012539 PMID: 20844236 FYI - the UMiami LSM510 has been (thankfully) retired after many years of use. An inverted Leica SP5 confocal microscope was moved in. The SP5 IRM has nasty fringes in the middle, but nice quality in the corners - typical failure of the microscope companies to 'nail the landing'. IRM images are easy to acquire on widefield microscopes with a filter cube that does not have an exciter filter (classic Fura-2 dual exciter cubes for example). On my SOLA-I (which Tom DiMatteo of EpiTechnology, maker of the CaliCube, http://www.epitechnology.com/contact/, told me at ABRF 2014 can be make to operate in single-LED mode -- this works with MetaMorph 7.8.6+ for my first gen SOLA ... feature disabled in later SOLA-I's) and a "CYR" filter set from Semrock http://www.semrock.com/SetDetails.aspx?id=2717 CFP/YFP/HcRed-3X-A-000 Filter Role Filter Size Part Number Single Band Exciter 25 mm x 5.0 mm FF01-427/10-25 <http://www.semrock.com/FilterDetails.aspx?id=FF01-427/10-25> Single Band Exciter 25 mm x 5.0 mm FF01-504/12-25 <http://www.semrock.com/FilterDetails.aspx?id=FF01-504/12-25> Single Band Exciter 25 mm x 5.0 mm FF01-589/15-25 <http://www.semrock.com/FilterDetails.aspx?id=FF01-589/15-25> Triple Band Emitter 25 mm x 3.5 mm FF01-464/542/639-25 <http://www.semrock.com/FilterDetails.aspx?id=FF01-464/542/639-25> Triple Band Dichroic 25.2 mm x 35.6 mm x 1.1 mm FF444/521/608-Di01-25x36 <http://www.semrock.com/FilterDetails.aspx?id=FF444/521/608-Di01-25x36> The IRM is not as nice on my widefield scope as on confocal since widefield is getting signal from light bouncing off cells etc. IRM was one of the first super-resolution techniques - the black fringes show focal adhesions are under 10 nm from the coverglass (probably zero but there is a longtime debate in the literature and "less than 10" is still 20x better than fluorescence), and the various grays to white can be converted to distances by various quantitative IRM methods, such as dual wavelength qIRM -- which would be even better with 3 wavelengths, trivial to do on a modern laser scanning confocal microscope. Some IRM references: Formation of cell-to-substrate contacts during fibroblast motility: an interference-reflexion study. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7400245> *Izzard* CS, *Lochner* LR. J Cell Sci. 1980 Apr;42:81-116. PMID: 7400245 Cell-to-substrate contacts in living fibroblasts: an interference reflexion study with an evaluation of the technique. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/932106> *Izzard* CS, *Lochner* LR. J Cell Sci. 1976 Jun;21(1):129-59. PMID: 932106 *Quantitative* reflection interference contrast microscopy (RICM) in soft matter and cell adhesion. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19816893> Limozin L, Sengupta K. Chemphyschem. 2009 Nov 9;10(16):2752-68. doi: 10.1002/cphc.200900601. Review. PMID: 19816893 Absolute interfacial distance measurements by dual-wavelength reflection interference contrast microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14995485> Schilling J, Sengupta K, Goennenwein S, Bausch AR, Sackmann E. Phys Rev E Stat Nonlin Soft Matter Phys. 2004 Feb;69(2 Pt 1):021901. Epub 2004 Feb 12. PMID: 14995485 Classic review: Interference *reflection* microscopy in cell biology: methodology and applications. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3900106> *Verschueren H*. J Cell Sci. 1985 Apr;75:279-301. Review. PMID: 3900106 Interference *reflection* microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20013754> Barr VA, Bunnell SC. Curr Protoc Cell Biol. 2009 Dec;Chapter 4:Unit 4.23. doi: 10.1002/0471143030.cb0423s45. PMID: 20013754 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free PMC Article <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20013754> Many-particle tracking with nanometer resolution in three dimensions by *reflection interference contrast microscopy*. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15982050> Clack NG, Groves JT. Langmuir. 2005 Jul 5;21(14):6430-5. PMID: 15982050 We have developed and characterized a method, based on *reflection interference contrast microscopy*, to simultaneously determine the three-dimensional positions of multiple particles in a colloidal monolayer. To evaluate this method, the interaction of 6.8 microm (+/-5%) diameter lipid-derivatized silica microspheres with an underlying planar borosilicate substrate is studied. Measured colloidal height distributions are consistent with expectations for an electrostatically levitated colloidal monolayer. The precision of the method is analyzed using experimental techniques in addition to computational bootstrapping algorithms. In its present implementation, this technique achieves 16 nm lateral and 1 nm vertical precision. Reflection interference contrast microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12624905> Weber I. Methods Enzymol. 2003;361:34-47. No abstract available. PMID: 12624905 *Reflection interference contrast microscopy* of microfilaments in cultured cells. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6184174> Opas M, Kalnins VI. Cell Biol Int Rep. 1982 Nov;6(11):1041-6. No abstract available. PMID: 6184174 Adhesions of fibroblasts to substratum during contact inhibition observed by interference reflection microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1169157> Abercrombie M, Dunn GA. Exp Cell Res. 1975 Apr;92(1):57-62. No abstract available. PMID: 1169157 the beginning: THE MECHANISM OF ADHESION OF CELLS TO GLASS. A STUDY BY INTERFERENCE REFLECTION MICROSCOPY. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14126869> CURTIS AS. J Cell Biol. 1964 Feb;20:199-215. PMID: 14126869 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free PMC Article <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14126869> The discoverer/inventor of IRM, Prof. A.S.G. Curtis, is still around and publishing in this field: Epigenesis: roles of nanotopography, nanoforces and nanovibration. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24801757> *Curtis AS*, Tsimbouri PM. Expert Rev Med Devices. 2014 Jul;11(4):417-23. doi: 10.1586/17434440.2014.916205. Epub 2014 May 7. PMID: 24801757 http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1586/17434440.2014.916205 // Also with respect to the super-resolution 2014 Nobel Prize in Chemistry - researchers in the single particle tracking (SPT) field was tracking single molecules. 551 PubMed 'hits' for "single particle tracking" (with quotes), and more by knowing many of the authors. Many were/are Image-1/AT and MetaMorph customers and/or otherwise connected with Shinya Inoue and/or Colin Izzard through MBL, Woods Hole. *Single-particle tracking*: applications to membrane dynamics. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9241424> Saxton MJ, Jacobson K. Annu Rev Biophys Biomol Struct. 1997;26:373-99. Review. PMID: 9241424 Protein lateral mobility as a reflection of membrane microstructure. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8240310> Zhang F, Lee GM, Jacobson K. Bioessays. 1993 Sep;15(9):579-88. Review. PMID: 824031 Cell migration does not produce membrane flow. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2211827> Kucik DF, Elson EL, Sheetz MP. J Cell Biol. 1990 Oct;111(4):1617-22. PMID: 2211827 not all SPT papers use the exact term "single particle tracking" Nanometer-scale measurements using video light microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3141071> *Schnapp* BJ, *Gelles* J, Sheetz MP. Cell Motil Cytoskeleton. 1988;10(1-2):47-53. PMID: 3141071 Tracking kinesin-driven movements with nanometre-scale precision. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3123999> *Gelles* J, *Schnapp* BJ, Sheetz MP. Nature. 1988 Feb 4;331(6155):450-3. PMID: 3123999 ... " The method is applied to measure kinesin-driven bead movements in vitro with a precision of 1-2 nm. " ... Enjoy, George On 10/25/2014 10:24 AM, Shane van Breda wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear group members, > > I have a very simple question that I require help with. Unfortunately our confocal expert has > been booked off for three months and I am struggling. > > I am using a Zeiss LSM 510 Meta. I am viewing bacteria using a 100 x oil immersion > objective. I have stained my cells with Nile Red or Draq 7 and I am using the crop function > to get suitable images of single cells. > > I am planning to publish my work, but I have no idea how to obtain a DIC image or suitable > image that will allow me overlay my flourescent image of single cells. Is it possible to use > the crop/zoom function of the software to obtain a DIC image of the same cell at the same > magnification? > > Thank you in advance > > -- George McNamara, Ph.D. Single Cells Analyst L.J.N. Cooper Lab University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX 77054 Tattletales http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/42 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Shane, for a true DIC you needed to bring polarizers and prisms into the correct position, if you just require a transmitted light image of your sample, activate (check box) the trans detector which will then function like a all the other detectors, except there is no pinhole in front of it. The transaction channel will b fee c cropped like the fluorescent channels. Hope that helps, j http://br.linkedin.com/pub/jens-rietdorf/6/4a3/189/ Skype jens.Rietdorf Am 25.10.2014 13:26 schrieb "Shane van Breda" <[hidden email]>: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear group members, > > I have a very simple question that I require help with. Unfortunately our > confocal expert has > been booked off for three months and I am struggling. > > I am using a Zeiss LSM 510 Meta. I am viewing bacteria using a 100 x oil > immersion > objective. I have stained my cells with Nile Red or Draq 7 and I am using > the crop function > to get suitable images of single cells. > > I am planning to publish my work, but I have no idea how to obtain a DIC > image or suitable > image that will allow me overlay my flourescent image of single cells. Is > it possible to use > the crop/zoom function of the software to obtain a DIC image of the same > cell at the same > magnification? > > Thank you in advance > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Thanks for help, I really appreciate it! Regards, Shane > On 25 Oct 2014, at 8:26 PM, jens rietdorf <[hidden email]> wrote: > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Shane, > > for a true DIC you needed to bring polarizers and prisms into the correct > position, if you just require a transmitted light image of your sample, > activate (check box) the trans detector which will then function like a all > the other detectors, except there is no pinhole in front of it. > > The transaction channel will b fee c cropped like the fluorescent channels. > > Hope that helps, j > > http://br.linkedin.com/pub/jens-rietdorf/6/4a3/189/ > Skype jens.Rietdorf > Am 25.10.2014 13:26 schrieb "Shane van Breda" <[hidden email]>: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. >> ***** >> >> Dear group members, >> >> I have a very simple question that I require help with. Unfortunately our >> confocal expert has >> been booked off for three months and I am struggling. >> >> I am using a Zeiss LSM 510 Meta. I am viewing bacteria using a 100 x oil >> immersion >> objective. I have stained my cells with Nile Red or Draq 7 and I am using >> the crop function >> to get suitable images of single cells. >> >> I am planning to publish my work, but I have no idea how to obtain a DIC >> image or suitable >> image that will allow me overlay my flourescent image of single cells. Is >> it possible to use >> the crop/zoom function of the software to obtain a DIC image of the same >> cell at the same >> magnification? >> >> Thank you in advance >> |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** jens rietdorf <[hidden email]> writes: > Shane, > > for a true DIC you needed to bring polarizers and prisms into the correct > position, if you just require a transmitted light image of your sample, > activate (check box) the trans detector which will then function like a all > the other detectors, except there is no pinhole in front of it. Do note however that the under objective prism will smear your image in the splitting direction. It is a small amount 1/3 to 1/2 of your resolution but in a well setup confocal easily observable. If this doesn't matter than take all images together. If it does then you need to do fluorescence first then insert the prism, trying hard not to bash anything and image in DIC. Alternatively as George said above, just use brightfield which is generally sufficient if you just want to know where cells/nuclei/etc... are. Ian |
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