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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear confocal listserver, I'm wondering if anyone out there can provide me with some information on what might be a simple question. I'd like to know how sensitive the spectra of common probes like Alexa dyes, fluorescent proteins, nuclear stains (DAPI), cyanine dyes, etc. are to the cellular environment. Ie: How different will the spectra of these probes be when attached to various biomolecules and present in different local cellular environments? When I say "common probes" I'm excluding those fluorescent probes that are designed/used to detect/infer chemical/environmental changes via spectral shifts like calcium dyes, membrane potential dyes, or probes undergoing FRET (Fura, Di-8-ANEPPS, Laurdan, etc.). I've tried searching through the literature databases, but I can't come up with any studies that have looked at this in any systematic way. My guess is that if there are spectral shifts associated with these common probes, they must be fairly small, otherwise it would be impossible to reliably look up the spectra of any of these probes online. If you know the answer to my question, can you also point me to any relevant literature/books that discuss this topic in detail? Thank you as always, John Oreopoulos |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi John, I suppose your question is not about quenching/dequenching (those change a lot) but about the shapes of spectral curves? Mike Model -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: How sensitive are the spectra of common probes in a cellular environment? ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear confocal listserver, I'm wondering if anyone out there can provide me with some information on what might be a simple question. I'd like to know how sensitive the spectra of common probes like Alexa dyes, fluorescent proteins, nuclear stains (DAPI), cyanine dyes, etc. are to the cellular environment. Ie: How different will the spectra of these probes be when attached to various biomolecules and present in different local cellular environments? When I say "common probes" I'm excluding those fluorescent probes that are designed/used to detect/infer chemical/environmental changes via spectral shifts like calcium dyes, membrane potential dyes, or probes undergoing FRET (Fura, Di-8-ANEPPS, Laurdan, etc.). I've tried searching through the literature databases, but I can't come up with any studies that have looked at this in any systematic way. My guess is that if there are spectral shifts associated with these common probes, they must be fairly small, otherwise it would be impossible to reliably look up the spectra of any of these probes online. If you know the answer to my question, can you also point me to any relevant literature/books that discuss this topic in detail? Thank you as always, John Oreopoulos |
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Relevant: Not very common probes, but they do have significant (i.e. useful) degrees of chromatic shift. I have not seen any real study of this for common probes. I suspect antibody bound probes would be less sensitive due to the isolating nature of the antibody preventing direct interaction with the sample. Local pH could still have a very significant effect, however.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26175127 http://peripheralnerve.org/meeting/abstracts/2016/10.cgi On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:46 PM, MODEL, MICHAEL <[hidden email]> wrote: ***** |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Yes Michael, I'm mainly concerned with spectral (wavelength) shifts or spectral shape changes as opposed to quenching (intensity). Thanks for asking for clarification. John Quoting "MODEL, MICHAEL" <[hidden email]>: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hi John, > > I suppose your question is not about quenching/dequenching (those > change a lot) but about the shapes of spectral curves? > > Mike Model > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:40 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: How sensitive are the spectra of common probes in a > cellular environment? > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear confocal listserver, > > I'm wondering if anyone out there can provide me with some > information on what might be a simple question. I'd like to know how > sensitive the spectra of common probes like Alexa dyes, fluorescent > proteins, nuclear stains (DAPI), cyanine dyes, etc. are to the > cellular environment. Ie: How different will the spectra of these > probes be when attached to various biomolecules and present in > different local cellular environments? > > When I say "common probes" I'm excluding those fluorescent probes > that are designed/used to detect/infer chemical/environmental > changes via spectral shifts like calcium dyes, membrane potential > dyes, or probes undergoing FRET (Fura, Di-8-ANEPPS, Laurdan, etc.). > > I've tried searching through the literature databases, but I can't > come up with any studies that have looked at this in any systematic > way. My guess is that if there are spectral shifts associated with > these common probes, they must be fairly small, otherwise it would > be impossible to reliably look up the spectra of any of these probes > online. If you know the answer to my question, can you also point > me to any relevant literature/books that discuss this topic in > detail? > > Thank you as always, > > John Oreopoulos > |
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Hi John, It is important to double check under which conditions online databases report spectra. For instance, the Chroma and Invitrogen spectral viewer tools report DAPI bound to DNA with an emission maxima at ~460 nm, while the omlc spectraviewer reports it in water without DNA (maximum around 490 nm). I've been fooled before by quickly googling an obscure fluorophore, picking the wrong filter, and then finding that my images don't look good. If in doubt, you can (usually) find something on Google Scholar with enough searching. Failing that, a lot of imaging cores have spectrally resolved confocal detectors. For a few obscure fluorophores, I've just gone and measured the spectrum under the conditions I'll be using. This is time consuming but it is the safest option. Mike On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:39 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: ***** |
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Hi John, To celebrate molecular motors win in Chemistry (not fluorescent
proteins or optical tricks for a change), I suggest you check out
the Suhling paper below. Yes, if you can afford spectral FLIM,
that would be a good way to go -- maybe SAR/Andor/Oxford
Instruments next instrument? To celebrate Roger Tsien, may the
product slogan could be "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies
like a banana". Bonus: slogan already has its own wikipedia page,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_flies_like_an_arrow;_fruit_flies_like_a_banana
As Jason mentioned, Alexa Fluor dyes -- especially Alexa Fluor
488 vs fluorescein, were designed to be pH resistant and otherwise
well behaved. While putting together the fluorophore table at http://www.geomcnamara.com/fluorophore-table I happened across the theoretical performance of fluorescein at
different pH's (blanks for FH2 and FH3+ mean not fluorescent).
Basically, below pH 8, fluorescein is not maximal. BCECF is
purchased to measure pH deliberately. For fixed cells, I encourage testing out expansion microscopy
(http://expansionmicroscopy.org/). Once the fluorophore(s) and
whatever it/they are attached to, are crosslinked to "the matrix"
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix) expand at will and
image in whatever mounting medium is best. Ed Boyden explains how
diapers led to ExM, https://www.ted.com/talks/ed_boyden_baby_diapers_inspired_this_new_way_to_study_the_brain
J Vis Exp. 2012 Feb 9;(60). pii:
2925. doi: 10.3791/2925.
Fluorescence lifetime imaging of molecular rotors in living cells.Abstract
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