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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I've a question about super-resolution microscopy: what is the standard way of estimating how much power reaches the sample in PALM/STORM experiments? Let's say I've measured my laser power at the tip of the coupling optical fiber (entering the microscope stand) to be 100 mW. How do I estimate the power on the sample (in kW/cm^2) if I use a 100X objective? Using the TIRF arm field number (16 mm) and objective magnification (100X) I get an illuminated area of 20,000 µm^2, so even with 100% efficiency (which is unlikely given the objective non-perfect transmission), that only translates into 2 kW/cm^2 on the sample, which is quite low. Given than a lot of STORM papers report powers in the 5-50 kW/cm^2 range, I wonder if something is wrong in my calculation? I don't want a precise measurement (which would necessitate measuring the actual output downstream of the objective), but more a reliable way to get an estimate. Thanks for your help, -- Christophe Leterrier Chercheur Equipe Architecture des Domaines Axonaux CRN2M CNRS UMR 7286 - Aix Marseille Université |
Zdenek Svindrych |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Christophe, repeating your calculations I arrived at 0.5 kW/cm^2. Still not too much... Some samples can still blink, just try it! Unfortunately I don't know of any "standard blinking sample" that could help you to reliably estimate the illumination intensity. My (standard) way is to measure the laser power at some convenient place in the setup (I prefer the back of the objective lens), measure the illuminated area and make some assumptions about other effects, such as lens efficiency and homogeneity of illumination. If you are able to control the "TIRF condition" (the position of the spot at the back focal plane of your objective lens), you might be able to put the beam near the center of the objective. Then a low divergence beam will exit the objective and you can measure the power in the sample space. But remember that less light gets through the objective when you approach the TIRF condition... Also homogeneity of illumination is important in STORM (and hard to achieve in TIRF). Maybe most of the light is concentrated in the center of your FOV leading to much higher intensity there. The way to get high illumination intensity is to focus the beam to smaller FOV. My camera can only see 80 um by 80 um and I usually illuminate even smaller region... You can try to achieve this by using smaller fiber diameter (if your TIRF arm uses critical illumination) or fiber with lower NA (for Koehler illumination). Adjustable field stop will of course not increase the intensity, but it may eliminate some unwanted effects of uneven illumination. Good luck! zdenek svindrych Prague ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> Komu: [hidden email] Datum: 21. 2. 2014 12:16:22 Předmět: Laser power in STORM experiments "***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I've a question about super-resolution microscopy: what is the standard way of estimating how much power reaches the sample in PALM/STORM experiments? Let's say I've measured my laser power at the tip of the coupling optical fiber (entering the microscope stand) to be 100 mW. How do I estimate the power on the sample (in kW/cm^2) if I use a 100X objective? Using the TIRF arm field number (16 mm) and objective magnification (100X) I get an illuminated area of 20,000 µm^2, so even with 100% efficiency (which is unlikely given the objective non-perfect transmission), that only translates into 2 kW/cm^2 on the sample, which is quite low. Given than a lot of STORM papers report powers in the 5-50 kW/cm^2 range, I wonder if something is wrong in my calculation? I don't want a precise measurement (which would necessitate measuring the actual output downstream of the objective), but more a reliable way to get an estimate. Thanks for your help, -- Christophe Leterrier Chercheur Equipe Architecture des Domaines Axonaux CRN2M CNRS UMR 7286 - Aix Marseille Université" |
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