Latest Paper on OME's OMERO

[Jason Swedlow-2]

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Dear All-

FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:

http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html

Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.

Cheers,

Jason

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[George McNamara]

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Hi Jason,

Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
closed access journal.

George

On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:

> *****
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> *****
>
> Dear All-
>
> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>
> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html
>
> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason
>
>    

[Jason Swedlow-2]

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Hi George-

First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!

More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
others:

http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html

The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.

Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
not judging them.

In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you to
post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
interval:

http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html

We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll update
the list.

Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.

Cheers,

Jason


On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara <[hidden email]
> wrote:

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> *****
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
> closed access journal.
>
> George
>
> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>>
>> Dear All-
>>
>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>
>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>

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[George McNamara]

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Hi Jason,

so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,

http://jbt.abrf.org/

About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques

/The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
Facilities/

/The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to
promote the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research
activities, to disseminate information among biomolecular resource
facilities, and to communicate the biotechnology research conducted by
the Association's Research Groups and members, as well as other
investigators

George
p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
this Sat night in Orlando
http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm


On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:

> *****
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> *****
>
> Hi George-
>
> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>
> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
> others:
>
> http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html
>
> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>
> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
> not judging them.
>
> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you to
> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
> interval:
>
> http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html
>
> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll update
> the list.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<[hidden email]
>    
>> wrote:
>>      
>    
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
>> closed access journal.
>>
>> George
>>
>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> *****
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All-
>>>
>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>
>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>      
>
>    

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George McNamara, Ph.D.
Image Core Manager
Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine

http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
    http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip (download 2000+ spectra)
    http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/
PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
     http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html   (Carl Boswell, now retired)
New UA Spectra Database Site
     http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/                  (Urs Utzinger)
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Care to link?
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Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:


Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html

Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
International Symposium
March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm

Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx



"Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
"Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.

"Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D. dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
"If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
"If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative: "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting." - GM.





 

[Ryan Schreiner]

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Jason,

While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
challenging
field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
have an opportunity to
publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
another (see links below) I would take the position of
optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.

http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0

http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0

Sincerely,

-Ryan Schreiner

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> *****
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> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> *****
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>
> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>
> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>
> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities/
>
> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to promote
> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>
> George
> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
> this Sat night in Orlando
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>
>
> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>> Hi George-
>>
>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>>
>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
>> others:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>
>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>
>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
>> not judging them.
>>
>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>> to
>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>> interval:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>
>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>> update
>> the list.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> >
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
>>> closed access journal.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> *****
>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> >
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All-
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> Image Core Manager
> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>
> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>   http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
>   http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>    http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now retired)
> New UA Spectra Database Site
>    http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
>                (Urs Utzinger)
> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>    http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
> Care to link?
>    http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
>
>
> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>
>
> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
>
> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> International Symposium
> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>
> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
>
>
>
> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>
> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting."
> - GM.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Carol Heckman]

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All,
There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a nonprofit that is providing free access?
Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out there.
Carol Heckman
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access no charge journal

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Jason,

While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
challenging
field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
have an opportunity to
publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
another (see links below) I would take the position of
optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.

http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0

http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0

Sincerely,

-Ryan Schreiner

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> *****
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>
> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>
> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>
> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities/
>
> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to promote
> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>
> George
> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
> this Sat night in Orlando
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>
>
> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>> Hi George-
>>
>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>>
>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
>> others:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>
>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>
>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
>> not judging them.
>>
>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>> to
>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>> interval:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>
>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>> update
>> the list.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> >
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
>>> closed access journal.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> *****
>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> >
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All-
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> Image Core Manager
> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>
> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>   http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
>   http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>    http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now retired)
> New UA Spectra Database Site
>    http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
>                (Urs Utzinger)
> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>    http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
> Care to link?
>    http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
>
>
> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>
>
> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
>
> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> International Symposium
> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>
> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
>
>
>
> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>
> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting."
> - GM.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Andrew York]

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 When funding and hiring opportunities express clear, unambiguous
preference for publication in open-access journals, the publications will
follow.

 Is anyone on this list in a position to influence hiring decisions? Is
anyone in a position to influence funding decisions?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carol Heckman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> All,
> There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and
> the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades
> in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a
> nonprofit that is providing free access?
> Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out
> there.
> Carol Heckman
> ________________________________________
> From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Schreiner [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access
> no charge journal
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> Jason,
>
> While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
> that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
> challenging
> field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
> have an opportunity to
> publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
> another (see links below) I would take the position of
> optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
> did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
> certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
> fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
> impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
> subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
>
> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
>
> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -Ryan Schreiner
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> > *****
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
> >
> > http://jbt.abrf.org/
> >
> > About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
> >
> > /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> > Facilities/
> >
> > /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
> > issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> > Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to
> promote
> > the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
> > to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
> > communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> > Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
> >
> > George
> > p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> > access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> > p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> > member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
> > this Sat night in Orlando
> > http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
> >
> >
> > On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >
> >> *****
> >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >> *****
> >>
> >> Hi George-
> >>
> >> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
> >>
> >> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere
> to
> >> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust
> and
> >> others:
> >>
> >> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<
> http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
> >>
> >> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
> >>
> >> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the
> facts,
> >> not judging them.
> >>
> >> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
> >> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
> >> to
> >> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
> >> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
> >> interval:
> >>
> >> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<
> http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
> >>
> >> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
> >> update
> >> the list.
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
> >> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
> >>
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>> *****
> >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>> >
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>>
> >>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in
> a
> >>> closed access journal.
> >>>
> >>> George
> >>>
> >>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> *****
> >>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>> >
> >>>> *****
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear All-
> >>>>
> >>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html
> <http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
> >>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<
> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > George McNamara, Ph.D.
> > Image Core Manager
> > Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> > University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
> >
> > http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> > PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
> >   http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<
> http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
> >   http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<
> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
> > PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
> >    http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<
> http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now
> retired)
> > New UA Spectra Database Site
> >    http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
> >                (Urs Utzinger)
> > UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
> >    http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<
> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
> > Care to link?
> >    http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
> >
> >
> > Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
> >
> >
> > Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> > February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> > Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> > http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<
> http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
> >
> > Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> > International Symposium
> > March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> > http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
> >
> > Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> > April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> > http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<
> http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
> >
> >
> >
> > "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> > "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
> >
> > "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> > controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> > dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> > "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> > "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
> > "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab
> meeting."
> > - GM.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[mcammer]

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Incentive?  The issue is responsibility.  Neither has it.  Maybe responsibility is with gov't or libraries.
________________________________________________________
Michael Cammer, Assistant Research Scientist
Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine
Lab: [phone]  Cell: [phone]


-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Carol Heckman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:00 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access no charge journal

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All,
There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a nonprofit that is providing free access?
Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out there.
Carol Heckman
________________________________________
From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ryan Schreiner [[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access no charge journal

[John Oreopoulos]

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There is an excellent new book which discusses this and other related topics about open-access:

http://www.amazon.ca/Reinventing-Discovery-The-Networked-Science/dp/0691148902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331655446&sr=8-1

As Andrew says (and the author of this book makes a very good argument for it), the situation will only change when funding agencies or hiring faculties give credit/recognition in some form to those scientists who promote open data sharing, open code sharing, and open access to their publications.

Cheers,

John Oreopoulos
Research Assistant
Spectral Applied Research
Richmond Hill, Ontario
Canada
www.spectral.ca


On 2012-03-13, at 11:14 AM, Andrew York wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> When funding and hiring opportunities express clear, unambiguous
> preference for publication in open-access journals, the publications will
> follow.
>
> Is anyone on this list in a position to influence hiring decisions? Is
> anyone in a position to influence funding decisions?
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carol Heckman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> *****
>>
>> All,
>> There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and
>> the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades
>> in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a
>> nonprofit that is providing free access?
>> Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out
>> there.
>> Carol Heckman
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On
>> Behalf Of Ryan Schreiner [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access
>> no charge journal
>>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> *****
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
>> that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
>> challenging
>> field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
>> have an opportunity to
>> publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
>> another (see links below) I would take the position of
>> optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
>> did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
>> certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
>> fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
>> impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
>> subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
>>
>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
>>
>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> -Ryan Schreiner
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>>>
>>> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>>>
>>> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>>>
>>> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>>> Facilities/
>>>
>>> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
>>> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>>> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to
>> promote
>>> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
>>> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
>>> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
>>> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>>>
>>> George
>>> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
>>> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
>>> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
>>> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
>>> this Sat night in Orlando
>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<
>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> *****
>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>> Hi George-
>>>>
>>>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>>>>
>>>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere
>> to
>>>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust
>> and
>>>> others:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<
>> http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>>>
>>>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>>>
>>>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the
>> facts,
>>>> not judging them.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>>>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>>>> to
>>>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
>>>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>>>> interval:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<
>> http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>>>
>>>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>>>> update
>>>> the list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>>>> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *****
>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>>
>>>>> *****
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in
>> a
>>>>> closed access journal.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *****
>>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html
>> <http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<
>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> George McNamara, Ph.D.
>>> Image Core Manager
>>> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
>>> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>>>
>>> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
>>> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>>>  http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<
>> http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
>>>  http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<
>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
>>> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>>>   http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<
>> http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now
>> retired)
>>> New UA Spectra Database Site
>>>   http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
>>>               (Urs Utzinger)
>>> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>>>   http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<
>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
>>> Care to link?
>>>   http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>>>
>>>
>>> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
>>> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
>>> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
>>> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<
>> http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
>>>
>>> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
>>> International Symposium
>>> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>>>
>>> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
>>> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
>>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<
>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
>>> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>>>
>>> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
>>> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
>>> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
>>> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
>>> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
>>> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab
>> meeting."
>>> - GM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

[George McNamara]

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Hi Ryan and Jason,

Ryan - bummer that you have a job where you are evaluated by people who
depend on a citation index instead of reading your papers, attending
your departmental talks, and sitting in on your lectures (if you are one
of those academics who actually teaches in classrooms). In Nature (2012)
483: 36, there are two correspondences about citation results, the
titles bein: "Citations; not all measures are equal", and "Citations:
results differ by databases".

Jason: you wrote, "I discuss some of these challenges, and the examples
where openly shared technology have made an impact on the field." in a
journal that is not open access. Your table 1, not reproduced here,
because your article is (c) 2012 WILEY Periodicals, Inc., "Open-source
biological microscopy software projects" is pretty good, though I would
have included FARSIGHT Project. Probably would have taken me a while to
discover the other imaging articles in the series (BioEssays - Early
View), so thanks.

I may be misquoting Roger Tsien a bit, but he recently mentioned the
"tyranny of cns" (Cell, Nature, Science) with respect to the approach
his colleagues on a fellowship committee(s) took to decide who to fund.
Roger reads the material he gets - Ryan, I hope you get Roger or people
who think like Roger on your promotions committee.

George


On 3/12/2012 9:51 PM, Ryan Schreiner wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> Jason,
>
> While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
> that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
> challenging
> field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
> have an opportunity to
> publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
> another (see links below) I would take the position of
> optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
> did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
> certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
> fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
> impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
> subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
>
> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
>
> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -Ryan Schreiner
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>    
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>>
>> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>>
>> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>>
>> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>> Facilities/
>>
>> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
>> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>> Facilities<http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to promote
>> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
>> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
>> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
>> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>>
>> George
>> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
>> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
>> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
>> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
>> this Sat night in Orlando
>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>>
>>
>> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hi George-
>>>
>>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>>>
>>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
>>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
>>> others:
>>>
>>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>>
>>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>>
>>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
>>> not judging them.
>>>
>>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>>> to
>>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
>>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>>> interval:
>>>
>>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>>
>>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>>> update
>>> the list.
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>>> earthlink.net<[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>        
>>>> *****
>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>          
>>>>>            
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
>>>> closed access journal.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> *****
>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>            
>>>>>>              
>>>>> *****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All-
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>>>            
>>>>>>              
>>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> George McNamara, Ph.D.
>> Image Core Manager
>> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
>> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>>
>> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
>> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>>    http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
>>    http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
>> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>>     http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>   (Carl Boswell, now retired)
>> New UA Spectra Database Site
>>     http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/<http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
>>                 (Urs Utzinger)
>> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>>     http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
>> Care to link?
>>     http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
>>
>>
>> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>>
>>
>> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
>> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
>> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
>> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
>>
>> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
>> International Symposium
>> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>>
>> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
>> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
>> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>>
>> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
>> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
>> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
>> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
>> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
>> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting."
>> - GM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>    

--


George McNamara, Ph.D.
Image Core Manager
Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine

http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
    http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip (download 2000+ spectra)
    http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/
PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
     http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html   (Carl Boswell, now retired)
New UA Spectra Database Site
     http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/                  (Urs Utzinger)
UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
     http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara
Care to link?
     http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara


Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:


Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html

Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
International Symposium
March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm

Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx



"Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
"Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.

“Well of course you can’t understand your data, you have too many controls” - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D. dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
"If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
"If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative: "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting." - GM.





 

[Zac Arrac Atelaz]

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I love to see there is struggle in this subject, I hope pressure will build and cook us all a great out come, not soon but indeed really free access to knowledge for all, and premium for those sharing and transmitting it around. Best Regards Gabriel OH The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.
Abraham Lincoln  Without a struggle, there can be no progress.
Frederick Douglass  If any student comes to me and says he wants to be useful to mankind and go into research to alleviate human suffering, I advise him to go into charity instead. Research wants real egotists who seek their own pleasure and satisfaction, but find it in solving the puzzles of nature.
Albert Szent-Györgi (1893-1986) U. S. biochemist.
 > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:21:40 -0400

> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access no charge journal
> To: [hidden email]
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> Hi Ryan and Jason,
>
> Ryan - bummer that you have a job where you are evaluated by people who
> depend on a citation index instead of reading your papers, attending
> your departmental talks, and sitting in on your lectures (if you are one
> of those academics who actually teaches in classrooms). In Nature (2012)
> 483: 36, there are two correspondences about citation results, the
> titles bein: "Citations; not all measures are equal", and "Citations:
> results differ by databases".
>
> Jason: you wrote, "I discuss some of these challenges, and the examples
> where openly shared technology have made an impact on the field." in a
> journal that is not open access. Your table 1, not reproduced here,
> because your article is (c) 2012 WILEY Periodicals, Inc., "Open-source
> biological microscopy software projects" is pretty good, though I would
> have included FARSIGHT Project. Probably would have taken me a while to
> discover the other imaging articles in the series (BioEssays - Early
> View), so thanks.
>
> I may be misquoting Roger Tsien a bit, but he recently mentioned the
> "tyranny of cns" (Cell, Nature, Science) with respect to the approach
> his colleagues on a fellowship committee(s) took to decide who to fund.
> Roger reads the material he gets - Ryan, I hope you get Roger or people
> who think like Roger on your promotions committee.
>
> George
>
>
> On 3/12/2012 9:51 PM, Ryan Schreiner wrote:
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > *****
> >
> > Jason,
> >
> > While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
> > that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
> > challenging
> > field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
> > have an opportunity to
> > publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
> > another (see links below) I would take the position of
> > optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
> > did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
> > certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
> > fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
> > impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
> > subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
> >
> > http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
> >
> > http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > -Ryan Schreiner
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
> > <[hidden email]>wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> *****
> >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >> *****
> >>
> >> Hi Jason,
> >>
> >> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
> >>
> >> http://jbt.abrf.org/
> >>
> >> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
> >>
> >> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> >> Facilities/
> >>
> >> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
> >> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> >> Facilities<http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to promote
> >> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
> >> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
> >> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> >> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
> >>
> >> George
> >> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> >> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> >> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> >> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
> >> this Sat night in Orlando
> >> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >>
> >>      
> >>> *****
> >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> Hi George-
> >>>
> >>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
> >>>
> >>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere to
> >>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
> >>> others:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
> >>>
> >>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
> >>>
> >>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the facts,
> >>> not judging them.
> >>>
> >>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
> >>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
> >>> to
> >>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
> >>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
> >>> interval:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
> >>>
> >>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
> >>> update
> >>> the list.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Jason
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
> >>> earthlink.net<[hidden email]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>> *****
> >>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>            
> >>>> *****
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
> >>>> closed access journal.
> >>>>
> >>>> George
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>> *****
> >>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>>            
> >>>>>>              
> >>>>> *****
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear All-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
> >>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
> >>>>>            
> >>>>>>              
> >>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> >> Image Core Manager
> >> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> >> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
> >>
> >> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> >> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
> >>    http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
> >>    http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
> >> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
> >>     http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>   (Carl Boswell, now retired)
> >> New UA Spectra Database Site
> >>     http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/<http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
> >>                 (Urs Utzinger)
> >> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
> >>     http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
> >> Care to link?
> >>     http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
> >>
> >>
> >> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> >> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> >> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> >> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
> >>
> >> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> >> International Symposium
> >> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> >> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
> >>
> >> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> >> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> >> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> >> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
> >>
> >> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> >> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> >> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> >> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> >> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
> >> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting."
> >> - GM.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >    
>
>
> --
>
>
> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> Image Core Manager
> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>
> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>     http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip (download 2000+ spectra)
>     http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/
> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>      http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html   (Carl Boswell, now retired)
> New UA Spectra Database Site
>      http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/                  (Urs Utzinger)
> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>      http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara
> Care to link?
>      http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara
>
>
> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>
>
> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html
>
> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> International Symposium
> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>
> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx
>
>
>
> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>
> “Well of course you can’t understand your data, you have too many controls” - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D. dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative: "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting." - GM.
>
>
>
>
>
>  

     

[John Oreopoulos]

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For those who can't make it through the whole book, here is a short and recent summary of the state of open access written by the same author:

http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/open-access-a-short-summary/

John Oreopoulos


On 2012-03-13, at 12:27 PM, John Oreopoulos wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> There is an excellent new book which discusses this and other related topics about open-access:
>
> http://www.amazon.ca/Reinventing-Discovery-The-Networked-Science/dp/0691148902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331655446&sr=8-1
>
> As Andrew says (and the author of this book makes a very good argument for it), the situation will only change when funding agencies or hiring faculties give credit/recognition in some form to those scientists who promote open data sharing, open code sharing, and open access to their publications.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Oreopoulos
> Research Assistant
> Spectral Applied Research
> Richmond Hill, Ontario
> Canada
> www.spectral.ca
>
>
> On 2012-03-13, at 11:14 AM, Andrew York wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> *****
>>
>> When funding and hiring opportunities express clear, unambiguous
>> preference for publication in open-access journals, the publications will
>> follow.
>>
>> Is anyone on this list in a position to influence hiring decisions? Is
>> anyone in a position to influence funding decisions?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carol Heckman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>> *****
>>>
>>> All,
>>> There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and
>>> the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades
>>> in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a
>>> nonprofit that is providing free access?
>>> Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out
>>> there.
>>> Carol Heckman
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On
>>> Behalf Of Ryan Schreiner [[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access
>>> no charge journal
>>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
>>> that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
>>> challenging
>>> field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If you
>>> have an opportunity to
>>> publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
>>> another (see links below) I would take the position of
>>> optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
>>> did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
>>> certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
>>> fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
>>> impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
>>> subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
>>>
>>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
>>>
>>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> -Ryan Schreiner
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> *****
>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>>>>
>>>> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>>>>
>>>> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>>>>
>>>> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>>>> Facilities/
>>>>
>>>> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
>>>> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
>>>> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to
>>> promote
>>>> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
>>>> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
>>>> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
>>>> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
>>>> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
>>>> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
>>>> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
>>>> this Sat night in Orlando
>>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<
>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *****
>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>> *****
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi George-
>>>>>
>>>>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
>>>>>
>>>>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals adhere
>>> to
>>>>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust
>>> and
>>>>> others:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<
>>> http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the
>>> facts,
>>>>> not judging them.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>>>>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>>>>> to
>>>>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still allow
>>>>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>>>>> interval:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<
>>> http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>>>>> update
>>>>> the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>>>>> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *****
>>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in
>>> a
>>>>>> closed access journal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *****
>>>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html
>>> <http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<
>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> George McNamara, Ph.D.
>>>> Image Core Manager
>>>> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
>>>> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
>>>> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
>>>> http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<
>>> http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+ spectra)
>>>> http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<
>>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
>>>> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
>>>>  http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<
>>> http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now
>>> retired)
>>>> New UA Spectra Database Site
>>>>  http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
>>>>              (Urs Utzinger)
>>>> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
>>>>  http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<
>>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
>>>> Care to link?
>>>>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
>>>> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
>>>> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
>>>> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<
>>> http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
>>>>
>>>> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
>>>> International Symposium
>>>> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
>>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>>>>
>>>> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
>>>> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
>>>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<
>>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
>>>> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>>>>
>>>> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
>>>> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
>>>> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
>>>> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
>>>> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
>>>> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab
>>> meeting."
>>>> - GM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

[Jason Swedlow-2]

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Dear All-

Thanks for all the comments.

Obviously, we wanted to have a way to release the paper as soon as it was
published, but this turned out to be harder than we originally thought--
our mistake.

You now can access the PDF of the paper here:

http://www.openmicroscopy.org/site/about/publications

Note that the e-print PDF doesn't support iOS devices.  Not our fault.

On open access, all I'll say is that we are committed to open access for
all our output.  All our software is available through the GPL, and we try
hard to drive a community-based approach for defining our strategic
directions. Our papers appear on Pubmed Central.  And yes, the project is
grant-funded, and we regularly have to demonstrate interest, use, and
impact for as wide a community as possible.  That's as it should be.

Thanks again for all the interest.

Cheers,

Jason

Jason Swedlow | University of Dundee | Open Microscopy Environment |
Glencoe Software, Inc.
On Mar 15, 2012 11:43 AM, "John Oreopoulos" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> *****
>
> For those who can't make it through the whole book, here is a short and
> recent summary of the state of open access written by the same author:
>
> http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/open-access-a-short-summary/
>
> John Oreopoulos
>
>
> On 2012-03-13, at 12:27 PM, John Oreopoulos wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > *****
> >
> > There is an excellent new book which discusses this and other related
> topics about open-access:
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.ca/Reinventing-Discovery-The-Networked-Science/dp/0691148902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331655446&sr=8-1
> >
> > As Andrew says (and the author of this book makes a very good argument
> for it), the situation will only change when funding agencies or hiring
> faculties give credit/recognition in some form to those scientists who
> promote open data sharing, open code sharing, and open access to their
> publications.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Oreopoulos
> > Research Assistant
> > Spectral Applied Research
> > Richmond Hill, Ontario
> > Canada
> > www.spectral.ca
> >
> >
> > On 2012-03-13, at 11:14 AM, Andrew York wrote:
> >
> >> *****
> >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> >> *****
> >>
> >> When funding and hiring opportunities express clear, unambiguous
> >> preference for publication in open-access journals, the publications
> will
> >> follow.
> >>
> >> Is anyone on this list in a position to influence hiring decisions? Is
> >> anyone in a position to influence funding decisions?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carol Heckman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> *****
> >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> All,
> >>> There  is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive
> and
> >>> the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for
> decades
> >>> in the future?  A company that is making money by selling access or a
> >>> nonprofit that is providing free access?
> >>> Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out
> >>> there.
> >>> Carol Heckman
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On
> >>> Behalf Of Ryan Schreiner [[hidden email]]
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open
> access
> >>> no charge journal
> >>>
> >>> *****
> >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> Jason,
> >>>
> >>> While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work
> towards
> >>> that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
> >>> challenging
> >>> field that science is today (explore research funding statistics).  If
> you
> >>> have an opportunity to
> >>> publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more
> than
> >>> another (see links below) I would take the position of
> >>> optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as
> you
> >>> did.  There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open
> access and
> >>> certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
> >>> fleeting.  I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
> >>> impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition
> and
> >>> subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
> >>>
> >>> http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> -Ryan Schreiner
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
> >>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> *****
> >>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>> *****
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
> >>>>
> >>>> http://jbt.abrf.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
> >>>>
> >>>> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> >>>> Facilities/
> >>>>
> >>>> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed
> publication
> >>>> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> >>>> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to
> >>> promote
> >>>> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research
> activities,
> >>>> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities,
> and to
> >>>> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> >>>> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
> >>>>
> >>>> George
> >>>> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> >>>> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> >>>> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> >>>> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that
> starts
> >>>> this Sat night in Orlando
> >>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<
> >>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> *****
> >>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>> *****
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi George-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First, thanks for the pun.  Never thought of that one.  ;-)!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky.  Nature journals
> adhere
> >>> to
> >>>>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome
> Trust
> >>> and
> >>>>> others:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<
> >>> http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is that good enough?  Many people will think not.  I'm stating the
> >>> facts,
> >>>>> not judging them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
> >>>>> paper.  It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed
> you
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site.  They still
> allow
> >>>>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a
> time
> >>>>> interval:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<
> >>> http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
> >>>>> update
> >>>>> the list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
> >>>>> earthlink.net <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> *****
> >>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> *****
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software
> in
> >>> a
> >>>>>> closed access journal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> George
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *****
> >>>>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> >>>>>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/****wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>>>> <http**://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?**A0=confocalmicroscopy<
> >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *****
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear All-
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html
> >>> <http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
> >>>>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html
> <
> >>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> >>>> Image Core Manager
> >>>> Analytical Imaging Core Facility (AICF)
> >>>> University of Miami, Miller School of Medicine
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.sylvester.org/AICF   (AICF home page)
> >>>> PubSpectra data (XLSX file inside)
> >>>> http://www.sylvester.org/**documents/PubSpectra.zip<
> >>> http://www.sylvester.org/documents/PubSpectra.zip>(download 2000+
> spectra)
> >>>> http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara/<
> >>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara/>
> >>>> PubSpectra / UA Graphing Site
> >>>>  http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/**ipc/fret/index.html<
> >>> http://www.mcb.arizona.edu/ipc/fret/index.html>  (Carl Boswell, now
> >>> retired)
> >>>> New UA Spectra Database Site
> >>>>  http://www.spectra.arizona.**edu/ <http://www.spectra.arizona.edu/>
> >>>>              (Urs Utzinger)
> >>>> UMiami Scholarly Repository "selected works"
> >>>>  http://works.bepress.com/**gmcnamara<
> >>> http://works.bepress.com/gmcnamara>
> >>>> Care to link?
> >>>>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/**georgemcnamara<
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemcnamara>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Miami 2012 Winter Symposium: Nanotechnology in Biomedicine
> >>>> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
> >>>> Nature Publishing Group / University of Miami / Scripps Florida
> >>>>
> http://www.nature.com/**natureconferences/miami/**mws2012/speakers.html<
> >>> http://www.nature.com/natureconferences/miami/mws2012/speakers.html>
> >>>>
> >>>> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> >>>> International Symposium
> >>>> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> >>>> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
> >>>>
> >>>> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> >>>> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
> >>>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/**topical_meetings/BIOMED/**default.aspx<
> >>> http://www.osa.org/meetings/topical_meetings/BIOMED/default.aspx>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> >>>> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> >>>> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> >>>> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> >>>> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> >>>> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ...
> alternative:
> >>>> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab
> >>> meeting."
> >>>> - GM.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>