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Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Do any of you have a cap for service fees? We have a PI whose students utilize our confocal very frequently and has requested that a cap be placed on his user fee when the balance approaches the cost of the service contract fee. Since the user fee is primarily intended to provide funds for the service contract this did not seem like an unreasonable request. Do any of you forgo the fee once a user's balance approaches a set value?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Page

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W.M. Keck Bioimaging Lab Manager
Arizona State University/SoLS

RICHARD BURRY RICHARD BURRY
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I direct a biomedical core microscope facility at Ohio State University and we dealt with this problem by offering a “bulk rate”.  At the beginning of each fiscal year, PIs can pay $1,775 and use the confocal as much as they want (with normal sign up procedure).  We have ten PIs that sign up for this each year and it pays for the service contract.  Our standard rate is $25 per hour.  Interestingly, even if the lab does not use the 71 hours that the bulk rate pays for, the PI did not see monthly billing and feels like he/she got a deal!  Plus, this rate is offered to all users and so NIH auditors cannot object to the rate structure.

 

Dick 

 

Richard W. Burry, Ph.D.

Department of Neuroscience, College of Medicine

Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility, Director

The Ohio State University

Associate Editor, Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry

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From: "D. Page Baluch" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:56 pm
Subject: Microscope fees
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> Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Do any of you have a cap for service fees? We have a PI whose students utilize our confocal very frequently and has requested that a cap be placed on his user fee when the balance approaches the cost of the service contract fee. Since the user fee is primarily intended to provide funds for the service contract this did not seem like an unreasonable request. Do any of you forgo the fee once a user's balance approaches a set value?
> Thanks for your suggestions,
> Page

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> Page Baluch, Ph.D.
> W.M. Keck Bioimaging Lab Manager
> Arizona State University/SoLS



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Richard W. Burry, Ph.D.
Department of Neuroscience, College of Medicine
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility, Director
The Ohio State University
Associate Editor, Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry
3018 Graves Hall
333 West Tenth Avenue
Columbus, Ohio 43210
Voice 614.292.2814  Cell 614.638.3345  Fax 614.688.8742

Kristi DeCourcy Kristi DeCourcy
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Page,

Our facility is run as a service center (to recoup service contract costs, and other minor expenses), and I have had a similar request from a heavy user who wanted reduced rates since his lab used the confocal so much.

What we do instead is reduce the hourly rate for all users. Our rates are adjusted yearly, and can be adjusted more frequently if the situation you describe arises. Why should a single lab stop paying? After all, they are actually using the system more than other users.

Kristi


Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Do any of you have a cap for service fees? We have a PI whose students utilize our confocal very frequently and has requested that a cap be placed on his user fee when the balance approaches the cost of the service contract fee. Since the user fee is primarily intended to provide funds for the service contract this did not seem like an unreasonable request. Do any of you forgo the fee once a user's balance approaches a set value?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Page

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Page Baluch, Ph.D.
W.M. Keck Bioimaging Lab Manager
Arizona State University/SoLS


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Kristi R. DeCourcy, Ph.D.
Laboratory Manager
Fralin Biotechnology Center
Virginia Tech
West Campus Drive
Blacksburg, VA  24061
Phone: (540) 231-7959   Fax: (540) 231-7126
http://www.biotech.vt.edu
George Ring George Ring
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Hi, Page,
We also run our facility as a "service center".  This is an NIH designation, and there are NIH guidelines governing how much money can be charged.  As Kristi said, you can recoup service contract costs & other minor expenses and, I believe, the salary of the core's administrator.  However, a service center is not allowed to make a profit, and may not use or save any of the money charged for equipment upgrades.  Sadly, we have never been in the enviable position of having too much income from ouir confocal.  However, if your center is defined as a "service center", you might have to adjust your charges to keep in line with NIH guidelines.
 
All the best,
George
 
 
George Ring, Ph.D.
Dept. of Cell and Developmental Biology
SUNY Upstate Medical University
750 E. Adams St.
Syracuse NY  13210
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>>> Kristi DeCourcy <[hidden email]> 5/1/08 9:37:58 AM >>>
Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
Page,

Our facility is run as a service center (to recoup service contract costs, and other minor expenses), and I have had a similar request from a heavy user who wanted reduced rates since his lab used the confocal so much.

What we do instead is reduce the hourly rate for all users. Our rates are adjusted yearly, and can be adjusted more frequently if the situation you describe arises. Why should a single lab stop paying? After all, they are actually using the system more than other users.

Kristi


Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Do any of you have a cap for service fees? We have a PI whose students utilize our confocal very frequently and has requested that a cap be placed on his user fee when the balance approaches the cost of the service contract fee. Since the user fee is primarily intended to provide funds for the service contract this did not seem like an unreasonable request. Do any of you forgo the fee once a user's balance approaches a set value?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Page

--
Page Baluch, Ph.D.
W.M. Keck Bioimaging Lab Manager
Arizona State University/SoLS


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Kristi R. DeCourcy, Ph.D.
Laboratory Manager
Fralin Biotechnology Center
Virginia Tech
West Campus Drive
Blacksburg, VA  24061
Phone: (540) 231-7959   Fax: (540) 231-7126
http://www.biotech.vt.edu