Password Strength

[Zac Arrac Atelaz]

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Another chip of the same wood:
 
We also have everyone taking files on USB drives, and for password, I never use publically known recipes, recipe for disaster!! Never repeat a password trough services, (hard for the first three, after is p1z-of_ keyk).
 
Good to know that the geeks of microscopy are geeks for the computer too (not alone!!!! there is life out there!!!!)
 
Greetings to the geek and non geeks reading :D
 
Gabriel OH
 

 

> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:50:13 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Password Strength
> To: [hidden email]
>
> *****
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> I think Robert Hooke's solution is more elegant: use paper and pen, draw
> whatever you saw under the microscope. After all, his Micrographia is very
> beautiful, a genuine classic.
>
> Drawing used to be a required skill for biologists. The good old days.
>
> :-)
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:44 AM, rjpalmer <[hidden email]>wrote:
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> > *****
> >
> > I'm not an IT person, nor do I play one on TV or lists, but here's a
> > genuine solution, but not acceptable for folks who feel all computers HAVE
> > to be connected to everyplace in the universe.
> >
> > Take the computer off the network. Require your users to transfer data
> > using removable drives. Whiners can find another machine. Still have
> > problems with crap on your machine? Water-board your users until someone
> > 'fesses up.
> >
> > That's what I do. It's worked fine, and since the time of floppy disks.
> > Haven't had to water-board anyone yet.
> >
> >
> > On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Scott, Mark wrote:
> >
> > *****
> >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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> >> *****
> >>
> >> Help Mr. IT Person,
> >>
> >> We use a COMPUTER to view our imaging results and can no longer gain
> >> access to it due to forgetting passwords of insane complexity and length or
> >> have been hacked because someone made the admin password "Admin1234".
> >>
> >> Advice please...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@**LISTS.UMN.EDU<[hidden email]>]
> >> On Behalf Of rjpalmer
> >> Sent: 12 August 2011 13:40
> >> To: [hidden email].**EDU <[hidden email]>
> >> Subject: Re: Password Strength
> >>
> >> *****
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> >> *****
> >>
> >> Help Mr. Moderator!
> >> I must have subscribed to the wrong list! I thought this list had
> >> something to do with microscopy, but apparently it is populated with
> >> computer geeks and game theorists who fancy themselves to be cyber-
> >> security experts. All I can say is that the pay is MUCH better in
> >> that sector. Maybe a change of career (or list) is warranted?
> >>
> >
> > Robert J. Palmer Jr., Ph.D.
> > Natl Inst Dental Craniofacial Res - Natl Insts Health
> > Oral Infection and Immunity Branch
> > Bldg 30, Room 310
> > 30 Convent Drive
> > Bethesda MD 20892
> > ph 301-594-0025
> > fax [phone]
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Bio-Imaging Resource Center
> Rockefeller University
> Box 209/Bronk 202
> 1230 York Avenue, New York, NY 10065
> Tel: [phone]

     

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Lovely!  Botanical drawing was absolutely part of my degree course, and
I'm very glad it was.  But wearing my other hat as a journal editor, I
don't think I would accept a paper illustrated by drawings ... vide much
discussion in this list as to what's permissible in image manipulation!

But having said that, in two fields of research in which I've been
involved I've had to seek out late 19th century and early 20th century
papers - and encountered beautifully drawn images of what was
purportedly being newly discovered by electron microscopy some 80 years
later!

                                            Guy

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-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Tao Tong
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 11:50 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Password Strength

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I think Robert Hooke's solution is more elegant: use paper and pen, draw
whatever you saw under the microscope. After all, his Micrographia is
very
beautiful, a genuine classic.

Drawing used to be a required skill for biologists. The good old days.

:-)

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:44 AM, rjpalmer
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> *****
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http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn
.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
> *****
>
> I'm not an IT person, nor do I play one on TV or lists, but here's a
> genuine solution, but not acceptable for folks who feel all computers
HAVE
> to be connected to everyplace in the universe.
>
> Take the computer off the network.  Require your users to transfer
data
> using removable drives.  Whiners can find another machine.  Still have
> problems with crap on your machine?  Water-board your users until
someone
> 'fesses up.
>
> That's what I do.  It's worked fine, and since the time of floppy
disks.
>  Haven't had to water-board anyone yet.
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Scott, Mark wrote:
>
>  *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/**wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy<http://lists.umn
.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>
>> *****
>>
>> Help Mr. IT Person,
>>
>> We use a COMPUTER to view our imaging results and can no longer gain
>> access to it due to forgetting passwords of insane complexity and
length or
>> have been hacked because someone made the admin password "Admin1234".
>>
>> Advice please...
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Confocal Microscopy List
[mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@**LISTS.UMN.EDU<[hidden email].
EDU>]
>> On Behalf Of rjpalmer
>> Sent: 12 August 2011 13:40
>> To: [hidden email].**EDU
<[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: Password Strength
>>
>> *****
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>>
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.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy>

>> *****
>>
>> Help Mr. Moderator!
>> I must have subscribed to the wrong list!  I thought this list had
>> something to do with microscopy, but apparently it is populated with
>> computer geeks and game theorists who fancy themselves to be cyber-
>> security experts.  All I can say is that the pay is MUCH better in
>> that sector.  Maybe a change of career (or list) is warranted?
>>
>
> Robert J. Palmer Jr., Ph.D.
> Natl Inst Dental Craniofacial Res - Natl Insts  Health
> Oral Infection and Immunity Branch
> Bldg 30, Room 310
> 30 Convent Drive
> Bethesda MD 20892
> ph 301-594-0025
> fax [phone]
>

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Bio-Imaging Resource Center
Rockefeller University
Box 209/Bronk 202
1230 York Avenue, New York, NY 10065
Tel: [phone]

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[Guy Cox-2]

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Well, Alby, by all means send me the password to your bank account ...
but don't expect me to reciprocate!!  :)

                                                               Guy

Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology
by Guy Cox    CRC Press / Taylor & Francis
     http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm
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Australian Centre for Microscopy & Microanalysis,
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 10:29 PM
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I am personally against any password...hopefully in the future we will
remove all of them


On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Latini wrote:

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On 11.08.2011 19:40, Martin Wessendorf wrote:
> If we assume that English contains 50,000 "common" words that a
> dictionary would need to contain (--I think that would be a conservative
> estimate, since English has a total vocabulary of about 250,000 words
> and capitalizations, proper names, etc would all need to be considered)
> and limit our password to 4 words, we would get 6.3 x 10^18--i.e. almost
> the same.

and then, why should you limit your password to 4 words from just one
language? With 4 different languages plus punctuation and some numbers
which you can easily remember, I would assume it pretty much does
require a brute force attack to get it.

The draw back is: it takes much longer to type it in than a simple word.

Steffen



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