Policy for commercial postings

[Martin Wessendorf-4]

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To all--

As List manager for the confocal listserv, I think all of us greatly value
the contributions of our members who work in the private sector.  However,
we occasionally have had commercial postings that have bordered on spam or
that threaten to provoke partisan squabbles.  To avoid this problem, I ask
all commercial posters to abide by the following policy:

1)  You're welcome to post queries on the list.

2)  You're welcome to respond to queries or comments posted by other list
members.  In the course of doing so, you're welcome to mention your
organization's products, as long as it's relevant and brief.  If you
mention your company's products, please state in the subject line that it's
a commercial response, to keep things transparent.

3)  You're welcome to post links to announcements of web-seminars, etc, as
long as they'd be of interest to most members of the list.  Again, please
mention in the subject line that it's a commercial posting if you do this.

4)  Please do NOT post product announcements, marketing surveys, etc.  However,
you're welcome to send a one-sentence description including a link to your
web site.  Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a commercial
posting.

If anyone has any questions about this policy or suggestions for its
improvement, let me know.  --This policy is revised and re-posted
periodically as necessary--my apologies to all of you who already know most
of it by heart, and my appreciation to all in the private sector who have
been abiding by it faithfully.

Thanks!
Martin Wessendorf
List Manager

--
Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.    Office: 4-116 Nils Hasselmo Hall
Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience        email: [hidden email]
Mailing address:       6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE
University of Minnesota                Phone: [phone]
Minneapolis, MN 55455         Preferred pronouns: he/him/his

[Benjamin Smith]

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Thank you for posting this Martin, I was just about to point out that I was
noticing an increasing amount of commercial posts on the listserv, with the
latest post even including tracking links.

I definitely understand why companies would want to advertise on the
listserv, but the consequence of this is that I've found more and more of
my colleagues are just forwarding listserv emails to their junk folder.
This unfortunately means questions are more likely to go unanswered, and
fewer people will want to openly share their expertise simply because they
don't want to wade through a multitude of commercial posts.

Along these lines, I would like to thank the many companies on the listserv
that go the extra mile to play fair by the listserv guidelines, taking time
to share their expertise and answer questions objectively at their own
expense, while forgoing the opportunity to simply self-advertise.  In my
opinion, openly sharing one's knowledge is the best advertisement for a
company anyway.

I really appreciate all the good this listserv does at disseminating
invaluable expertise and information, so I don't want to see that lost as
more and more people tune out the listserv due to ever increasing amounts
of commercial advertising.

Just my two cents,
   Ben Smith

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:28 AM Martin Wessendorf <
[hidden email]> wrote:

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> *****
>
> To all--
>
> As List manager for the confocal listserv, I think all of us greatly value
> the contributions of our members who work in the private sector.  However,
> we occasionally have had commercial postings that have bordered on spam or
> that threaten to provoke partisan squabbles.  To avoid this problem, I ask
> all commercial posters to abide by the following policy:
>
> 1)  You're welcome to post queries on the list.
>
> 2)  You're welcome to respond to queries or comments posted by other list
> members.  In the course of doing so, you're welcome to mention your
> organization's products, as long as it's relevant and brief.  If you
> mention your company's products, please state in the subject line that it's
> a commercial response, to keep things transparent.
>
> 3)  You're welcome to post links to announcements of web-seminars, etc, as
> long as they'd be of interest to most members of the list.  Again, please
> mention in the subject line that it's a commercial posting if you do this.
>
> 4)  Please do NOT post product announcements, marketing surveys, etc.
> However,
> you're welcome to send a one-sentence description including a link to your
> web site.  Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a commercial
> posting.
>
> If anyone has any questions about this policy or suggestions for its
> improvement, let me know.  --This policy is revised and re-posted
> periodically as necessary--my apologies to all of you who already know most
> of it by heart, and my appreciation to all in the private sector who have
> been abiding by it faithfully.
>
> Thanks!
> Martin Wessendorf
> List Manager
>
> --
> Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.    Office: 4-116 Nils Hasselmo Hall
> Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience        email: [hidden email]
> Mailing address:       6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE
> University of Minnesota                Phone: [phone]
> Minneapolis, MN 55455         Preferred pronouns: he/him/his
>

--
Benjamin E. Smith, Ph. D.
Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
University of California, Berkeley
195 Weill Hall
Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
Tel  [phone]
Fax [phone]
e-mail: [hidden email]
https://vision.berkeley.edu/faculty/core-grants-nei/core-grant-microscopic-imaging/

[César Gil Algora]

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Dear Mr. Smith and the rest of the members of the list.

First of all, I’d like to sincerely apologize since I think your post was referring to my last emails to the list.
It’s not our intention at all to abuse from the Confocal listserv.

We’ve sent 3 emails (newsletters) in one year to tell the community about our progress with the plenoptic eyepiece for lightfield microscopy.
As I’ve told Mr. Wessendorf we are not microscopists but we want to contribute to helping the community with our imaging solutions.

The expertise we can share is about Fourier lightfield microscopy, therefore that will be what we will do from now on.
You won’t see any more commercial posts from our side.

Sorry again for the inconvenience.
All the best.


César Gil Algora
CEO
Doitplenoptic


[phone]


[hidden email]


www.doitplenoptic.com


Agustin Escardino 9, 46980 Paterna, Valencia, Spain


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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Confocal Microscopy List <[hidden email]> En nombre de Benjamin Smith
Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2021 19:59
Para: [hidden email]
Asunto: Re: Policy for commercial postings

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Thank you for posting this Martin, I was just about to point out that I was noticing an increasing amount of commercial posts on the listserv, with the latest post even including tracking links.

I definitely understand why companies would want to advertise on the listserv, but the consequence of this is that I've found more and more of my colleagues are just forwarding listserv emails to their junk folder.
This unfortunately means questions are more likely to go unanswered, and fewer people will want to openly share their expertise simply because they don't want to wade through a multitude of commercial posts.

Along these lines, I would like to thank the many companies on the listserv that go the extra mile to play fair by the listserv guidelines, taking time to share their expertise and answer questions objectively at their own expense, while forgoing the opportunity to simply self-advertise.  In my opinion, openly sharing one's knowledge is the best advertisement for a company anyway.

I really appreciate all the good this listserv does at disseminating invaluable expertise and information, so I don't want to see that lost as more and more people tune out the listserv due to ever increasing amounts of commercial advertising.

Just my two cents,
   Ben Smith

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:28 AM Martin Wessendorf < [hidden email]> wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> To all--
>
> As List manager for the confocal listserv, I think all of us greatly
> value the contributions of our members who work in the private sector.  
> However, we occasionally have had commercial postings that have
> bordered on spam or that threaten to provoke partisan squabbles.  To
> avoid this problem, I ask all commercial posters to abide by the following policy:
>
> 1)  You're welcome to post queries on the list.
>
> 2)  You're welcome to respond to queries or comments posted by other
> list members.  In the course of doing so, you're welcome to mention
> your organization's products, as long as it's relevant and brief.  If
> you mention your company's products, please state in the subject line
> that it's a commercial response, to keep things transparent.
>
> 3)  You're welcome to post links to announcements of web-seminars,
> etc, as long as they'd be of interest to most members of the list.  
> Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a commercial posting if you do this.
>
> 4)  Please do NOT post product announcements, marketing surveys, etc.
> However,
> you're welcome to send a one-sentence description including a link to
> your web site.  Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a
> commercial posting.
>
> If anyone has any questions about this policy or suggestions for its
> improvement, let me know.  --This policy is revised and re-posted
> periodically as necessary--my apologies to all of you who already know
> most of it by heart, and my appreciation to all in the private sector
> who have been abiding by it faithfully.
>
> Thanks!
> Martin Wessendorf
> List Manager
>
> --
> Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.    Office: 4-116 Nils Hasselmo Hall
> Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience        email: [hidden email]
> Mailing address:       6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE
> University of Minnesota                Phone: [phone]
> Minneapolis, MN 55455         Preferred pronouns: he/him/his
>

--
Benjamin E. Smith, Ph. D.
Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
University of California, Berkeley
195 Weill Hall
Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
Tel  [phone]
Fax [phone]
e-mail: [hidden email]
https://vision.berkeley.edu/faculty/core-grants-nei/core-grant-microscopic-imaging/

[Martin Wessendorf-5]

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 Commercial posts are welcome on the List.--just please check ahead of time
to make sure that it's consistent with the Policy on Commercial Postings.
And if you have any questions, send me a note!

Thanks!

Martin Wessendorf
List Manager

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:53 PM César Gil Algora <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Dear Mr. Smith and the rest of the members of the list.
>
> First of all, I’d like to sincerely apologize since I think your post was
> referring to my last emails to the list.
> It’s not our intention at all to abuse from the Confocal listserv.
>
> We’ve sent 3 emails (newsletters) in one year to tell the community about
> our progress with the plenoptic eyepiece for lightfield microscopy.
> As I’ve told Mr. Wessendorf we are not microscopists but we want to
> contribute to helping the community with our imaging solutions.
>
> The expertise we can share is about Fourier lightfield microscopy,
> therefore that will be what we will do from now on.
> You won’t see any more commercial posts from our side.
>
> Sorry again for the inconvenience.
> All the best.
>
>
> César Gil Algora
> CEO
> Doitplenoptic
>
>
> [phone]
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
> www.doitplenoptic.com
>
>
> Agustin Escardino 9, 46980 Paterna, Valencia, Spain
>
>
> LEGAL NOTICE: This message and its attached files are addressed only to
> its recipient, and may contain confidential information subject to
> professional secrecy. Communication, reproduction, or distribution is not
> allowed without the express authorization of DOITPLENOPTIC, S.L. If you are
> not the final recipient, please delete it and inform us by return email or
> phone. DATA PROTECTION: In accordance with the provisions of Regulation
> (EU) 2016/679 of April 27 (GDPR) and Organic Law 3/2018 of December 5
> (LOPDGDD), we inform you that the personal data and address of Email of the
> interested party will be treated under the responsibility of DOITPLENOPTIC,
> SL for a legitimate interest and for sending communications about our
> products and services, and will be kept as long as neither party opposes
> it. The data will not be communicated to third parties, except for legal
> obligation. We inform you that you can exercise the rights of access,
> rectification, portability, and deletion of your data and those of
> limitation and opposition to your treatment by contacting CATEDRÁTICO
> AGUSTÍN ESCARDINO, 9 - 46980 PATERNA (Valencia). Email:
> [hidden email] If you consider that the treatment does not comply
> with current regulations, you may file a claim with the control authority
> at www.aepd.es. Please consider your carbon emissions before you print
> this email.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Confocal Microscopy List <[hidden email]> En nombre
> de Benjamin Smith
> Enviado el: martes, 11 de mayo de 2021 19:59
> Para: [hidden email]
> Asunto: Re: Policy for commercial postings
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Thank you for posting this Martin, I was just about to point out that I
> was noticing an increasing amount of commercial posts on the listserv, with
> the latest post even including tracking links.
>
> I definitely understand why companies would want to advertise on the
> listserv, but the consequence of this is that I've found more and more of
> my colleagues are just forwarding listserv emails to their junk folder.
> This unfortunately means questions are more likely to go unanswered, and
> fewer people will want to openly share their expertise simply because they
> don't want to wade through a multitude of commercial posts.
>
> Along these lines, I would like to thank the many companies on the
> listserv that go the extra mile to play fair by the listserv guidelines,
> taking time to share their expertise and answer questions objectively at
> their own expense, while forgoing the opportunity to simply
> self-advertise.  In my opinion, openly sharing one's knowledge is the best
> advertisement for a company anyway.
>
> I really appreciate all the good this listserv does at disseminating
> invaluable expertise and information, so I don't want to see that lost as
> more and more people tune out the listserv due to ever increasing amounts
> of commercial advertising.
>
> Just my two cents,
>    Ben Smith
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:28 AM Martin Wessendorf <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
> posting.
> > *****
> >
> > To all--
> >
> > As List manager for the confocal listserv, I think all of us greatly
> > value the contributions of our members who work in the private sector.
> > However, we occasionally have had commercial postings that have
> > bordered on spam or that threaten to provoke partisan squabbles.  To
> > avoid this problem, I ask all commercial posters to abide by the
> following policy:
> >
> > 1)  You're welcome to post queries on the list.
> >
> > 2)  You're welcome to respond to queries or comments posted by other
> > list members.  In the course of doing so, you're welcome to mention
> > your organization's products, as long as it's relevant and brief.  If
> > you mention your company's products, please state in the subject line
> > that it's a commercial response, to keep things transparent.
> >
> > 3)  You're welcome to post links to announcements of web-seminars,
> > etc, as long as they'd be of interest to most members of the list.
> > Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a commercial posting
> if you do this.
> >
> > 4)  Please do NOT post product announcements, marketing surveys, etc.
> > However,
> > you're welcome to send a one-sentence description including a link to
> > your web site.  Again, please mention in the subject line that it's a
> > commercial posting.
> >
> > If anyone has any questions about this policy or suggestions for its
> > improvement, let me know.  --This policy is revised and re-posted
> > periodically as necessary--my apologies to all of you who already know
> > most of it by heart, and my appreciation to all in the private sector
> > who have been abiding by it faithfully.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Martin Wessendorf
> > List Manager
> >
> > --
> > Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.    Office: 4-116 Nils Hasselmo Hall
> > Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience        email: [hidden email]
> > Mailing address:       6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE
> > University of Minnesota                Phone: [phone]
> > Minneapolis, MN 55455         Preferred pronouns: he/him/his
> >
>
>
> --
> Benjamin E. Smith, Ph. D.
> Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
> University of California, Berkeley
> 195 Weill Hall
> Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
> Tel  [phone]
> Fax [phone]
> e-mail: [hidden email]
>
> https://vision.berkeley.edu/faculty/core-grants-nei/core-grant-microscopic-imaging/
>