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Question about a super-resolution technique

Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe
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Christophe,
 
We have a Zeiss LSM 5 LIVE with a detector of fixed 512 pixels.  To achieve true 1024x1024 or 1536x1536 it uses the shift technique you describe, shifting by 1/2 or 1/3 pixel size to get 1024 or 1536, respectively.  It is true that this increases resolution when pixels are the limiting factor, it does not break the diffraction limit of resolution.
 
-Esteban

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe



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Re: Question about a super-resolution technique

Hello, I believe that camera manufacturers have used “pixel shifting” to obtain super high resolution from CCDs for years. For example the Leica DFC500 was a pixel shift camera that could utilize up to 36 shots to compose a single image (final resolution around 4k x 3k).

 

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Christophe,

 

We have a Zeiss LSM 5 LIVE with a detector of fixed 512 pixels.  To achieve true 1024x1024 or 1536x1536 it uses the shift technique you describe, shifting by 1/2 or 1/3 pixel size to get 1024 or 1536, respectively.  It is true that this increases resolution when pixels are the limiting factor, it does not break the diffraction limit of resolution.

 

-Esteban

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe




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http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/mcc/

573-882-4895
573-884-9676 fax


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I think the result of the pixel shifting cameras is equivalent to a smoothed
version of the image that would have been acquired with a CCD with the
higher number of pixels... in the example that would be like applying a 6x6
kernel... I am right?
 
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Christophe,
 
We have a Zeiss LSM 5 LIVE with a detector of fixed 512 pixels.  To achieve true 1024x1024 or 1536x1536 it uses the shift technique you describe, shifting by 1/2 or 1/3 pixel size to get 1024 or 1536, respectively.  It is true that this increases resolution when pixels are the limiting factor, it does not break the diffraction limit of resolution.
 
-Esteban

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe



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Christophe,
 
We have a Zeiss LSM 5 LIVE with a detector of fixed 512 pixels.  To achieve true 1024x1024 or 1536x1536 it uses the shift technique you describe, shifting by 1/2 or 1/3 pixel size to get 1024 or 1536, respectively.  It is true that this increases resolution when pixels are the limiting factor, it does not break the diffraction limit of resolution.
 
-Esteban

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe



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Associate Director
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http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/mcc/

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Christophe,
 
We have a Zeiss LSM 5 LIVE with a detector of fixed 512 pixels.  To achieve true 1024x1024 or 1536x1536 it uses the shift technique you describe, shifting by 1/2 or 1/3 pixel size to get 1024 or 1536, respectively.  It is true that this increases resolution when pixels are the limiting factor, it does not break the diffraction limit of resolution.
 
-Esteban

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Christophe Leterrier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear all,

I jsut heard of a technique to obtain a super-resolution image from a series of low-resolution shifted images :
http://www.und.edu/instruct/young/toast/Super-Resolution.html
See also here : http://scien.stanford.edu/class/psych221/projects/99/stever/report.html
Basically, you extract details from sub-pixels shift in the image.

My understanding is that it could be useful for microscopy, but only for undersampled images where the limiting factor is the pixel size, and not the diffraction. Is that right that you can't break the diffusion barrier with this method ?

Christophe



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Associate Director
Molecular Cytology Core Facility
University of Missouri
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http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/mcc/

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