George McNamara |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear Confocal listserv http://www.abcam.com/index.html?pageconfig=resource&rid=15527 <http://www.abcam.com/index.html?pageconfig=resource&rid=15527> Dye Absorption Emission Extinction Quantum Brightness max (nm) max (nm) coefficient yield (Ec*QY/1000) Alexa Fluor 405 402 421 35,000 - - Alexa Fluor 488 495 519 73,000 0.92 67 Alexa Fluor 555 555 565 155,000 0.1 15 Alexa Fluor 568 578 603 88,000 0.69 61 Alexa Fluor 594 590 617 92,000 0.66 61 Alexa Fluor 647 650 668 270,000 0.33 89 Alexa Fluor 750 749 775 290,000 0.12 35 No E.c. or quantum yield, but an interesting new fluorophore from BD Sirigen is Brilliant Ultraviolet 395 (BUV395), http://www.bdbiosciences.com/documents/BD_Brilliant_Violet395_Datasheet.pdf excitation max 348 nm, emission max 395 nm, more usefully with an emission tail into the blue. I spoke with one of the BD Sirigen chemists recently, who hinted that the performance would be similar (and maybe better than) BV421: http://www.biolegend.com/brilliantviolet Dye Absorption Emission Extinction Quantum Brightness max (nm) max (nm) coefficient yield (Ec*QY/1000) BV421 405 nm 421 nm 2,400,000 0.6 (in DPBS) 1,560 Sirigen lists the E.c. of BV421 as 407 nm, http://www.sirigen.com/sirigen_products.html When I tried BV421 (anti-human CD4 on human PBMCs in PBS), it was very photostable with an Hg arc lamp, standard Zeiss DAPI filter cube, and Zeiss widefield microscope, 63x/1.4 NA oil immersion lens. Photobleached quickly (did acquire nice single focus image) on a Leica SP5 confocal microscope, 63x/1.4 NA oil immersion lens, with brand new 405 nm laser - my thanks to BioLegend for the specimen. ** A couple of papers (open access) that caught my attention this weekend: High-resolution restoration of 3D structures from widefield images with extreme low signal-to-noise-ratio. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24106307> Arigovindan M, Fung JC, Elnatan D, Mennella V, Chan YH, Pollard M, Branlund E, *Sedat* JW,*Agard* DA. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2013 Oct 22;110(43):17344-9. doi: 10.1073/pnas.1315675110. Epub 2013 Oct 8. PMID: 24106307 Towards real-time image *deconvolution*: application to confocal and STED microscopy. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23982127> Zanella R, Zanghirati G, Cavicchioli R, Zanni L, Boccacci P, Bertero M, Vicidomini G. Sci Rep. 2013;3:2523. doi: 10.1038/srep02523. PMID: 23982127 In particular, Figure 4j, right panel, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3755287/figure/f4/ shows -- for that specimen -- confocal + SGP deconvolution performs equally well (better than the raw data in 4i, right panel) as CW-STED + SGP (I realize that their STED may not be performing as well as it could). http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html Simple super-resolution live-cell imaging based on diffusion-assisted Förster resonance energy transfer * Sangyeon Cho <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-1>, * Jaeduck Jang <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-2>, * Chaeyeon Song <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-3>, * Heeyoung Lee <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-4>, * Prabhakar Ganesan <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-5>, * Tae-Young Yoon <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-6>, * Mahn Won Kim <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-7>, * Myung Chul Choi <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-8>, * Hyotcherl Ihee <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-9>, * Won Do Heo <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-10> * & YongKeun Park <http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/full/srep01208.html#auth-11> Can someone enlighten me how Cho et al's figure 2 obtained a 3x improvement in resolution, to 33 nm, by deconvolving their dSOFI output? http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130204/srep01208/fig_tab/srep01208_F2.html Enjoy, George |
Csúcs Gábor-2 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear All, I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are important factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 NA objective and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted photons really reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the objectives and other lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still an estimate? Thanks Gabor |
Alessandro Esposito |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear Gabor, you may find some information in Qiaole Zhang et al published in J Biomed Opt "Photon budget analysis for fluorescence lifetime imaging microscopy" As you said, a major impact is the NA of the objective. For single molecule detection using top end EM-CCD, you will not lose much at the camera. However, you will lose quite a bit into the filters and relay optics. I've written a short description about this in Suppoprting Text S1 here: <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%">http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371% 2Fjournal.pone.0077392 Cheers, Alessandro >***** >To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >***** > >Dear All, > >I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the >following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes >are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and >the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are >important factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 >NA objective and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted >photons really reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the >objectives and other lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still >an estimate? > >Thanks Gabor |
John Oreopoulos |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Gabor, I think the reality is that a fluorescence microscope (especially operating in the confocal mode) is actually a very inefficient light filtering device. There is a passage from a book chapter written by Kennith Spring in the book Digital Microscopy (3rd Edition) that states: "The geometric constraints also imposed by the numerical aperture of the objective lens as well as the inevitable losses in the optical train of the microscope lead to a loss of 80% or more of the original fluorescence signal. Depending on the properties of the detector, the resultant electronic signal may represent as little as 3% or as much as 16% of the total fluorescence emission.” As you say, the exact value depends on the detector, the optics of the system, etc. Cheers, John Oreopoulos Staff Scientist Spectral Applied Research Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada www.spectral.ca On 2013-11-07, at 7:33 AM, Csúcs Gábor wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear All, > > I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the > following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes > are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and > the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are > important factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 > NA objective and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted > photons really reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the > objectives and other lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still > an estimate? > > Thanks Gabor |
Arne Seitz |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear Gabor, in the Handbook of Biological Confocal Microscopy in Chapter 16 ("Fluorophores for Confocal Microscopy: Photophysics and Photochemistry" by R. Tsien, L. Ernst, A. Waggoner) you can find a nice calculation of the efficiency of confocal systems. In essence: Per fluorophore you obtain photoelectron per sweep. This might serve a s a good starting point to make calculations for WF systems. For the single molecule experiment you should be able to measure the photons which arrive at the camera (as done in many point localization papers). Knowing the fluorophore and the excitation intensity (at least roughly) you should be able to calculate the efficiency of the microscope pathway. Have a nice day. Cheers Arne > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Csúcs > Gábor > Sent: jeudi 7 novembre 2013 13:34 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Photon detection efficiency of microscopes > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear All, > > I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the > following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes > are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and > the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are important > factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 NA objective > and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted photons really > reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the objectives and other > lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still an estimate? > > Thanks Gabor |
phil laissue-2 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** These papers might be helpful. Comparing systems: Evaluating performance in three-dimensional fluorescence microscopy JOHN M MURRAY, PAUL L APPLETON, JASON R SWEDLOW, JENNIFER C WATERS J Microsc. 2007 December; 228(3): 390–405. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2818.2007.01861.x PMCID: PMC2438600 Calibration, theory etc.: Precise nanometer localization analysis for individual fluorescent probes. Russell E Thompson, Daniel R Larson, Watt W Webb Biophys J. 2002 May; 82(5): 2775–2783. PMCID: PMC1302065 _____________________________________ Philippe Laissue, PhD, Bioimaging Manager School of Biological Sciences, Room 4.17 University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK (0044) 01206 872246 / (0044) 07842 676 456 [hidden email] privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~plaissue On 7 November 2013 12:33, Csúcs Gábor <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear All, > > I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the > following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes > are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and > the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are > important factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 > NA objective and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted > photons really reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the > objectives and other lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still > an estimate? > > Thanks Gabor > |
James Pawley |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** >***** >To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >***** > >Dear All, > >I made a quick search but found nothing really useful. My question is the >following: does anyone have some data/literature how efficient microscopes >are in detecting the photons of a fluorescent sample? Obviously the NA and >the QE of the camera (plus the performance filters/dichroics) are >important factors but taken e.g. A single molecule experiment with a 1.49 >NA objective and a back-illuminated EM-CCD what ration of the emitted >photons really reach the detector? Of course the transmission of the >objectives and other lenses in the microscopes can vary but is there still >an estimate? > >Thanks Gabor Dear Gabor, Please excuse the plug but you will find many useful references by looking at the page numbers called out by the entry "Photon Efficiency" in the Index of the Handbook, Third edition. It was an item of major interest since the First Edition. Regards, Jim Pawley -- James and Christine Pawley, 5446 Burley Place (PO Box 2348), Sechelt, BC, Canada, V0N3A0, Phone 604-885-0840, email <[hidden email]> NEW! NEW! AND DIFFERENT Cell (when I remember to turn it on!) 1-604-989-6146 |
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