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I have a student that wants to image starch-paste and stearic acid.  The aim is to show the starch granules coated with stearic acid.  We have tried FITC to stain the starch, but that gives a very high background.  For the stearic acid we used Nile red.

 

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Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Re: Starch-stearic acid Why not just stain the stearic acid with nile red and don’t worry about the starch.  You will be able to see the starch grains in the transmitted light image very easily.  
We were imaging amyloplasts (on confocal) isolated from fresh tissue using FM 4-64 to detect intact membranes, quite easy to do, you don’t really have to stain the starch with anything. They were very distinct in the transmitted light image.
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On 30/5/08 5:54 PM, "Alan Hall" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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I have a student that wants to image starch-paste and stearic acid.  The aim is to show the starch granules coated with stearic acid.  We have tried FITC to stain the starch, but that gives a very high background.  For the stearic acid we used Nile red.
 
All suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
TIA
Alan Hall
 
 
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I think Feulgen will turn starch a purplish color.  It was a
complication we found, when students in my course were trying to stain
DNA.  I think you could find a reference in old books on histology
technique.
Carol Heckman
Bowling Green State University
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For that matter, startch grains show up unmistakably in polarized light. And if the stearic acid binds in an orderly way to the starch, who knows, you might get a distinct ring-around-the-grain effect!

        Tobias



Search the CONFOCAL archive at http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal Why not just stain the stearic acid with nile red and don't worry about the starch.  You will be able to see the starch grains in the transmitted light image very easily.  
We were imaging amyloplasts (on confocal) isolated from fresh tissue using FM 4-64 to detect intact membranes, quite easy to do, you don't really have to stain the starch with anything. They were very distinct in the transmitted light image.
cheers,
Rosemary

p.s. go Crusaders!

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On 30/5/08 5:54 PM, "Alan Hall" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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I have a student that wants to image starch-paste and stearic acid.  The aim is to show the starch granules coated with stearic acid.  We have tried FITC to stain the starch, but that gives a very high background.  For the stearic acid we used Nile red.
 
All suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
TIA
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If you have acces to a 2-photon system, starch gives a very stong second harmonic signal.  See Guy Cox, Nuno Moreno & José Feijó, 2005. Second harmonic imaging of plant polysaccharides.  Journal of Biomedical Optics 10, 024013_1-6

 

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I have a student that wants to image starch-paste and stearic acid.  The aim is to show the starch granules coated with stearic acid.  We have tried FITC to stain the starch, but that gives a very high background.  For the stearic acid we used Nile red.

 

All suggestions and comments will be appreciated.

TIA

Alan Hall

 

 

Laboratory for Microscopy & Microanalysis

Room1-33, Natural Sciences 2

University of Pretoria

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I have tried several techniques to try and get good images from starch and other polysaccahrides within food samples.  If the starch grains are intact or even fairly intact they can show up using transmission mode as the mebranes are still visible but it is not that easy to see them in some cases.  I have had some success with lectin probes but it is a bit variable depending on other substances in the sample. I am not sure with your case. And there is a feulgens method which you can use if the treatment is not going to affect your sample as you have to hydrolyse first.
Using polarised light only seems to work well when your sample is well dispersed and the grains still intact, it is very hard to see them in denser samples.


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I have a student that wants to image starch-paste and stearic acid.  The aim is to show the starch granules coated with stearic acid.  We have tried FITC to stain the starch, but that gives a very high background.  For the stearic acid we used Nile red.

 

All suggestions and comments will be appreciated.

TIA

Alan Hall

 

 

Laboratory for Microscopy & Microanalysis

Room1-33, Natural Sciences 2

University of Pretoria

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Pretoria

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