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Ben Abrams-2

Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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Hi All,

I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try it myself.

Thanks,
Ben

Angela Kurz-2

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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for
suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:20, Ben Abrams <
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> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
> it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

Cammer, Michael-2

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I wear prescription glasses when I work at the scope. I do not take them off, but I do take the eye cups off the occulars. This works with all brand scopes. To use with binoculars for sailing, I cut the eye cups off and whittled down the plastic with a sharp razor. The point is that protective eyeware can work.
I used to need new lenses every 6 months or so, but in recent years there are new extra hard scratch resistant lenses that I have found are incredibly resilient. Also, they have great UV protection, as evident by how white the skin around my eyes remains even when I get tanned elsewhere on my face, and anti-reflectance coating that truly works. If you wear glasses, I recommend shelling out the money for premium lenses.
And they may double as protective eyewear.

Also, a reminder that routine covid infection by eyes is a reasonable hypothesis, but not confirmed. As far as I know. Are there robust studies on this? Citations welcome.

Cheers-
Michael Cammer
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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for
suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:20, Ben Abrams <
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> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
> it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

microscopy

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Hi Ben,

Perhaps time to get cheap cmount/ocular camera and display to eliminate close facial contact? Or even 3d print the existing ocular cellphone mount..

http://www.microbehunter.com/connecting-a-camera-to-a-microscope/

Kitty

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:19:40 -0500
From: Ben Abrams <[hidden email]>
Subject: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?
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Hi All,

I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try it myself.

Thanks,
Ben

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:19:25 +1000
From: Angela Kurz <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:20, Ben Abrams < [hidden email]> wrote:

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> *****
>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic
> wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and
> hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual
> ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the
> community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope
> instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and
> safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I
> have not had the opportunity to try it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:57:44 +0000
From: "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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I wear prescription glasses when I work at the scope. I do not take them off, but I do take the eye cups off the occulars. This works with all brand scopes. To use with binoculars for sailing, I cut the eye cups off and whittled down the plastic with a sharp razor. The point is that protective eyeware can work.
I used to need new lenses every 6 months or so, but in recent years there are new extra hard scratch resistant lenses that I have found are incredibly resilient. Also, they have great UV protection, as evident by how white the skin around my eyes remains even when I get tanned elsewhere on my face, and anti-reflectance coating that truly works. If you wear glasses, I recommend shelling out the money for premium lenses.
And they may double as protective eyewear.

Also, a reminder that routine covid infection by eyes is a reasonable hypothesis, but not confirmed. As far as I know. Are there robust studies on this? Citations welcome.

Cheers-
Michael Cammer
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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

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>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic
> wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and
> hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual
> ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the
> community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope
> instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and
> safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I
> have not had the opportunity to try it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

Advanced Imaging Lab

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Hi Ben,

This is what I have recommended for the users at my Imaging facility.
Since everyone already has a pair of safety glasses, it is easy to
implement. The safety glasses protect both the user and the instrument.

Best regards,
Esther

On Thursday, 16 April 2020, Ben Abrams <
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
> it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

Gabriel KRENS-2

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Dear Ben,

A alternative workaround would be to supply plastic foil wrap to wrap on the occulars.
Each users will need to replaced it.

Further recommendations can also be found on the GerBI website:
https://www.gerbi-gmb.de/Corona

best
Gabriel

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Manager of BioImaging Facility <https://bif.pages.ist.ac.at/>

Institute of Science and Technology Austria <https://ist.ac.at/>
Am Campus 1
3400 Klosterneuburg, Austria

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Hi Ben,

Perhaps time to get cheap cmount/ocular camera and display to eliminate close facial contact? Or even 3d print the existing ocular cellphone mount..

http://www.microbehunter.com/connecting-a-camera-to-a-microscope/

Kitty

Kitty Lee, Facility Manager
Cell Sciences Imaging Facility
Beckman Center for Molecular and Genetics Medicine, Room B050
Stanford University School of Medicine
Stanford, CA 94305

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1. Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes? (3)

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:19:40 -0500
From: Ben Abrams <[hidden email]>
Subject: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?
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Hi All,

I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try it myself.

Thanks,
Ben

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:19:25 +1000
From: Angela Kurz <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:20, Ben Abrams < [hidden email]> wrote:

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> *****
>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic
> wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and
> hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual
> ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the
> community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope
> instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and
> safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I
> have not had the opportunity to try it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:57:44 +0000
From: "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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I wear prescription glasses when I work at the scope. I do not take them off, but I do take the eye cups off the occulars. This works with all brand scopes. To use with binoculars for sailing, I cut the eye cups off and whittled down the plastic with a sharp razor. The point is that protective eyeware can work.
I used to need new lenses every 6 months or so, but in recent years there are new extra hard scratch resistant lenses that I have found are incredibly resilient. Also, they have great UV protection, as evident by how white the skin around my eyes remains even when I get tanned elsewhere on my face, and anti-reflectance coating that truly works. If you wear glasses, I recommend shelling out the money for premium lenses.
And they may double as protective eyewear.

Also, a reminder that routine covid infection by eyes is a reasonable hypothesis, but not confirmed. As far as I know. Are there robust studies on this? Citations welcome.

Cheers-
Michael Cammer
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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

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>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic
> wrap to minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and
> hard to keep in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual
> ramp back up when user flow is increasing. I wonder what the
> community thinks about having people wear safety glasses at the scope
> instead? Most oculars can be adjusted to accommodate glasses and
> safety glasses could easily be disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I
> have not had the opportunity to try it myself.
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> Ben
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Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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In my opinion, all eye cups on oculars should be removed. They are simply crutches to prevent neophyte microscopists from pressing their eyes directly against the oculars. Oculars are designed to be viewed with the cornea 10-15 mm away from the front surface of the ocular lens (there's an exact spec on this). Moving the eye closer leads to a diminishment of the field observed. Moreover, the design allows people wearing glasses to use the microscope as well, which eye cups prevent. New microscopists should be taught this and the eye cups put safely away in some remote drawer.

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I wear prescription glasses when I work at the scope. I do not take them off, but I do take the eye cups off the occulars. This works with all brand scopes. To use with binoculars for sailing, I cut the eye cups off and whittled down the plastic with a sharp razor. The point is that protective eyeware can work.
I used to need new lenses every 6 months or so, but in recent years there are new extra hard scratch resistant lenses that I have found are incredibly resilient. Also, they have great UV protection, as evident by how white the skin around my eyes remains even when I get tanned elsewhere on my face, and anti-reflectance coating that truly works. If you wear glasses, I recommend shelling out the money for premium lenses.
And they may double as protective eyewear.

Also, a reminder that routine covid infection by eyes is a reasonable hypothesis, but not confirmed. As far as I know. Are there robust studies on this? Citations welcome.

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Hi Ben,

thanks for the post.
I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.

Best,
Angela

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Re: Use of Safety Glasses at Scopes?

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I wonder if users would mind losing some of the field of view to obtain a longer eye relief from the eyepiece.
I think if enough people asked the manufacturers: L, N, O, Z if they would make eyepieces with that option they might do it!
Don't hold your breath but it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Dan

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Hi Ben,

This is what I have recommended for the users at my Imaging facility.
Since everyone already has a pair of safety glasses, it is easy to
implement. The safety glasses protect both the user and the instrument.

Best regards,
Esther

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> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
> it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
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Hi,

Thanks everyone for your replies to this thread.

Angela - I did try this over the weekend and found that it was totally
workable to wear standard safety glasses when viewing a sample through
the eyepieces. I had to remove the rubber cups, but after that it
seemed fine. I have mostly Zeiss and Leica scopes and tried it on a few
different scopes and with two different models of eye wear. Neither
were the splash resistant kind used for chem labs.

Best,
Ben

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> I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
> I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for
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>
> Best,
> Angela
>
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>>
>> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
>> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
>> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
>> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
>> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
>> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
>> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
>> it myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
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Dear list,

-We have removed the eye cups.
-Insist our users wipe the oculars with 80% (v/v) Ethanol on a Kimwipe before and after each use.
-Must wear safety glasses.
-Must wear gloves.
-Must wear clean gown.
-Must clean computer mouse, keyboard, microscope knobs with 80% (v/v) Ethanol wipes before and after each use.
-Training is limited to “essential” projects only.
-Trouble shooting and training is achieved by attaching a second, remote computer mouse. The Logitech IR mouse with long battery life are good for this.

Instructors can then stand quite a long way behind the trainee. The instructor can point to any part of the screen by operating the mouse on a bench or even their leg. In addition knobs on the microscope can be pointed to using a cheap laser pointer.

As my eyes aren’t what they use to be, when selecting various options in pull down menus etc. I will ask the trainee to confirm the option I’m selecting, making jokes that I’m half blind. The humor, and the process of asking the trainee to confirm the software selections, actually seems to aid training. When things return to normal I think we’ll continue with the second mouse training technique.

So far comments from our clients have been highly complimentary regarding the new safety protocols.

All the best,
Stay safe.
Steve

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> Angela - I did try this over the weekend and found that it was totally workable to wear standard safety glasses when viewing a sample through the eyepieces. I had to remove the rubber cups, but after that it seemed fine. I have mostly Zeiss and Leica scopes and tried it on a few different scopes and with two different models of eye wear. Neither were the splash resistant kind used for chem labs.
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>> thanks for the post.
>> I have been wondering the same, but how would you adjust the oculars?
>> I didn't get it working properly (especially if you have to look for
>> suitable areas for quite some time eg. in IVM) yet, so I dismissed it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Angela
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:20, Ben Abrams <
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>>> I know that some cores are currently wrapping eyepieces in plastic wrap to
>>> minimize COVID-19 transmission, but this maybe cumbersome and hard to keep
>>> in useful shape for users, especially during the eventual ramp back up when
>>> user flow is increasing. I wonder what the community thinks about having
>>> people wear safety glasses at the scope instead? Most oculars can be
>>> adjusted to accommodate glasses and safety glasses could easily be
>>> disinfected by the user. Thoughts? I have not had the opportunity to try
>>> it myself.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>
>
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