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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear All, We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and analysis machines. We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is working very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works perfectly). However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from my MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may help to turn off some channels.” Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try connecting into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old version of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 to work with Imaris over RDP? I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice little project. King regards, Ben -- Dr Ben Sutcliffe Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology Francis Crick Avenue Cambridge Biomedical Campus Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning the local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using something like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. Mike On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElOHuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= > Post images on > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= > and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear All, > > We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. > I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and analysis > machines. > We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is working > very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works perfectly). > > However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from my > MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX > 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, > your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may help > to turn off some channels.” > > Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, > a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try connecting > into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old version > of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. > > Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 to > work with Imaris over RDP? > > I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice > little project. > > King regards, > Ben > > -- > Dr Ben Sutcliffe > Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > Francis Crick Avenue > Cambridge Biomedical Campus > Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK > -- Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics University of Rochester |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, Which OS is your analysis workstation (with the GTX 1080) running? If Windows 10, you can try the suggested group policy change at https://community.esri.com/thread/225251-enabling-gpu-rendering-on-windows-server-2016-windows-10-rdp Best, Will -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Michael Giacomelli Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 1:12 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [External] Re: Using Imaris over an RDP connection ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning the local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using something like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. Mike On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi- > 2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofM > HBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gt > voyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElO > HuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= > Post images on > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=Dw > IFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisI > eOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaB > TI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= > and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear All, > > We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. > I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and > analysis machines. > We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is > working very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works perfectly). > > However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP > from my MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA > GeForce GTX 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following > error “Sorry, your graphics board does not support this visualisation > mode. It may help to turn off some channels.” > > Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX > 1080, a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try > connecting into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and > an old version of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. > > Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX > 1080 to work with Imaris over RDP? > > I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice > little project. > > King regards, > Ben > > -- > Dr Ben Sutcliffe > Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy MRC Laboratory of Molecular > Biology Francis Crick Avenue Cambridge Biomedical Campus Cambridge CB2 > 0QH, UK > -- Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics University of Rochester ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** I have observed a similar problem that Ben is describing. We have a rtx 2080ti card on one computer and a p4000 card on another computer. I have no issues with remotely viewing images on Imaris on the compiter w p4000 GPU card but on the other computer imaris won't even start up in rdp. Interestingly if i already have an imaris session open on the computer with the rtx2080i card, then I am able to view those images remotely. Sripad On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Michael Giacomelli <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hi Ben, > > RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your > local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP > session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. > > It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning the > local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver > support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using something > like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. > > Mike > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe <[hidden email] > > > wrote: > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElOHuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= > > Post images on > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= > > and include the link in your posting. > > ***** > > > > Dear All, > > > > We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. > > I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and analysis > > machines. > > We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is > working > > very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works perfectly). > > > > However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from > my > > MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX > > 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, > > your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may help > > to turn off some channels.” > > > > Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, > > a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try > connecting > > into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old > version > > of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. > > > > Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 > to > > work with Imaris over RDP? > > > > I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice > > little project. > > > > King regards, > > Ben > > > > -- > > Dr Ben Sutcliffe > > Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy > > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > > Francis Crick Avenue > > Cambridge Biomedical Campus > > Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK > > > > > -- > Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor > Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics > University of Rochester > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** ****Commercial Reply**** Dear Community In my experience, Arivis Vision4d or Imaris will run over RDP, if the *host* computer is running: Windows Server 2016 R2 and a Quadro; Windows Server 2019 with a Quadro; Windows 10 with either AMD or Nvidia Gpu Windows 7, Vista, Windows 8 are out of luck, time to upgrade. Please contact the appropriate regional support team if you have further specific questions. Officially, Vision4d only work via RDP with Windows Server 2016 R2 or later with a Quadro. But as I learned today, unofficially, you can get it running on Windows 10 without much trouble. Cheers Arvonn ---- Arvonn Tully [hidden email] On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM S Ram <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > I have observed a similar problem that Ben is describing. We have a rtx > 2080ti card on one computer and a p4000 card on another computer. I have no > issues with remotely viewing images on Imaris on the compiter w p4000 GPU > card but on the other computer imaris won't even start up in rdp. > Interestingly if i already have an imaris session open on the computer with > the rtx2080i card, then I am able to view those images remotely. > > Sripad > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Michael Giacomelli < > [hidden email]> > wrote: > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your > posting. > > ***** > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your > > local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP > > session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. > > > > It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning > the > > local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver > > support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using > something > > like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe < > [hidden email] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > ***** > > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElOHuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= > > > Post images on > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= > > > and include the link in your posting. > > > ***** > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. > > > I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and > analysis > > > machines. > > > We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is > > working > > > very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works > perfectly). > > > > > > However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from > > my > > > MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce > GTX > > > 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, > > > your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may > help > > > to turn off some channels.” > > > > > > Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX > 1080, > > > a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try > > connecting > > > into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old > > version > > > of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. > > > > > > Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 > > to > > > work with Imaris over RDP? > > > > > > I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice > > > little project. > > > > > > King regards, > > > Ben > > > > > > -- > > > Dr Ben Sutcliffe > > > Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy > > > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > > > Francis Crick Avenue > > > Cambridge Biomedical Campus > > > Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK > > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. > > Assistant Professor > > Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics > > University of Rochester > > > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear All, Thank you all your replies on this topic. I found that there is a workaround where by I use either TeamViewer or VNC to launch the software “locally” and then users can connect via VPC and RDP and use the software no problem. I just asked them not to close the software. We might invest in a nice RTX 8000 incase these pandemics happen more frequently (I certainly hope they don’t!). Best, Ben > On 20 Mar 2020, at 20:41, Arvonn Tully <[hidden email]> wrote: > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > ****Commercial Reply**** > Dear Community > > In my experience, Arivis Vision4d or Imaris will run over RDP, if the > *host* computer is running: Windows Server 2016 R2 and a Quadro; > Windows Server 2019 with a Quadro; > Windows 10 with either AMD or Nvidia Gpu > > Windows 7, Vista, Windows 8 are out of luck, time to upgrade. > > Please contact the appropriate regional support team if you have further > specific questions. > > Officially, Vision4d only work via RDP with Windows Server 2016 R2 or later > with a Quadro. > But as I learned today, unofficially, you can get it running on Windows 10 > without much trouble. > Cheers > Arvonn > > > > ---- > Arvonn Tully > [hidden email] > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM S Ram <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. >> ***** >> >> I have observed a similar problem that Ben is describing. We have a rtx >> 2080ti card on one computer and a p4000 card on another computer. I have no >> issues with remotely viewing images on Imaris on the compiter w p4000 GPU >> card but on the other computer imaris won't even start up in rdp. >> Interestingly if i already have an imaris session open on the computer with >> the rtx2080i card, then I am able to view those images remotely. >> >> Sripad >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Michael Giacomelli < >> [hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> ***** >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your >> posting. >>> ***** >>> >>> Hi Ben, >>> >>> RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your >>> local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP >>> session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. >>> >>> It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning >> the >>> local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver >>> support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using >> something >>> like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe < >> [hidden email] >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ***** >>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>>> >>>> >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElOHuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= >>>> Post images on >>>> >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= >>>> and include the link in your posting. >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. >>>> I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and >> analysis >>>> machines. >>>> We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is >>> working >>>> very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works >> perfectly). >>>> >>>> However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from >>> my >>>> MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce >> GTX >>>> 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, >>>> your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may >> help >>>> to turn off some channels.” >>>> >>>> Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX >> 1080, >>>> a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try >>> connecting >>>> into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old >>> version >>>> of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. >>>> >>>> Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 >>> to >>>> work with Imaris over RDP? >>>> >>>> I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice >>>> little project. >>>> >>>> King regards, >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr Ben Sutcliffe >>>> Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy >>>> MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology >>>> Francis Crick Avenue >>>> Cambridge Biomedical Campus >>>> Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. >>> Assistant Professor >>> Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics >>> University of Rochester >>> >> -- Dr Ben Sutcliffe Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology Francis Crick Avenue Cambridge Biomedical Campus Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** ** Vendor response ** Dear Ben and all, Since this is a very relevant topic at the moment with so many researchers working remotely, we would also like to add a few points. As Ben already mentioned in his initial post, you can use Huygens Software remotely using RDP without any problems, and the host's multi-threaded CPUs and GPUs can be fully utilized. Our node-locked licenses allow the use of remote display protocols. Also VNC and X-forwarding, among other remote display options are fully supported by Huygens. The hardware of the client does not matter with any of these protocols, since all the computation in Huygens - including 3D rendering - is done by the server hardware. Huygens Software uses CUDA on graphic boards to speed up image processing, deconvolution and volume ray-tracing. All Nvidia GPU cards can be used, from gaming grade GTX/RTX boards to high-end Quadro or Tesla cards. Even without a GPU in the host system, the 3D rendering is also fully supported on CPU and is highly parallelized, making 3D rendering with Huygens very fast even if you don't have a GPU. For everyone who does not have easy remote access to their normal lab workstations/servers at the moment due to the current situation: we would like to help out and provide free Huygens@Home licenses for all researchers who need to deconvolve, visualize or analyze their microscopy images at home. Huygens runs on Windows (7, 8, 10), Linux and Mac OS. A modern Nvidia GPU will help to speed up things, but having a CPU and some RAM is all you need :-) Get your own Huygens@Home license here: https://svi.nl/LicenseRequest On behalf of the SVI-Huygens team, Best regards, Remko Remko Dijkstra, MSc. Product Manager Super-resolution Scientific Volume Imaging - www.svi.nl Huygens Software +31 35 642 1626 [hidden email] Op 3/23/2020 om 2:18 PM schreef Ben Sutcliffe: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear All, > > Thank you all your replies on this topic. > I found that there is a workaround where by I use either TeamViewer or VNC to launch the software “locally” and then users can connect via VPC and RDP and use the software no problem. I just asked them not to close the software. > > We might invest in a nice RTX 8000 incase these pandemics happen more frequently (I certainly hope they don’t!). > > Best, > Ben > >> On 20 Mar 2020, at 20:41, Arvonn Tully <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. >> ***** >> >> ****Commercial Reply**** >> Dear Community >> >> In my experience, Arivis Vision4d or Imaris will run over RDP, if the >> *host* computer is running: Windows Server 2016 R2 and a Quadro; >> Windows Server 2019 with a Quadro; >> Windows 10 with either AMD or Nvidia Gpu >> >> Windows 7, Vista, Windows 8 are out of luck, time to upgrade. >> >> Please contact the appropriate regional support team if you have further >> specific questions. >> >> Officially, Vision4d only work via RDP with Windows Server 2016 R2 or later >> with a Quadro. >> But as I learned today, unofficially, you can get it running on Windows 10 >> without much trouble. >> Cheers >> Arvonn >> >> >> >> ---- >> Arvonn Tully >> [hidden email] >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:26 PM S Ram <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> ***** >>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. >>> ***** >>> >>> I have observed a similar problem that Ben is describing. We have a rtx >>> 2080ti card on one computer and a p4000 card on another computer. I have no >>> issues with remotely viewing images on Imaris on the compiter w p4000 GPU >>> card but on the other computer imaris won't even start up in rdp. >>> Interestingly if i already have an imaris session open on the computer with >>> the rtx2080i card, then I am able to view those images remotely. >>> >>> Sripad >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Michael Giacomelli < >>> [hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ***** >>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >>>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your >>> posting. >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> >>>> RDP redirects drawing commands from the GPU to the network and then your >>>> local computer renders them. Hence by default there is no GPU in an RDP >>>> session, so software that requires one will not work correctly. >>>> >>>> It is possible to set up an RDP session with GPU pass through (meaning >>> the >>>> local GPU on your laptop is used), but it requires hardware and driver >>>> support on the local machine. I have always had more luck using >>> something >>>> like VNC that screen captures the remote session when I needed GPU. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ben Sutcliffe < >>> [hidden email] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ***** >>>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >>>>> >>>>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=d60BCijs9toijd74nGDWMGsElOHuG_HRVIjQoc-dqww&e= >>>>> Post images on >>>>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=0LyF_z8oU1XGGyisIeOIXyIGIM5IYb3NcLjxHjUca5Y&m=gtvoyNiByk5kqnOoQxuL17cfwknGVY2tWlqt-TzaBTI&s=RmsvO4mNq3-J3suCo5VRZ61j1c_Z7IS3WUaVHW2k4EQ&e= >>>>> and include the link in your posting. >>>>> ***** >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> We are now working remotely from home as I guess a lot of you are. >>>>> I spent a long time setting up RDP access to all our systems and >>> analysis >>>>> machines. >>>>> We allow users to access the analysis machines via RDP and this is >>>> working >>>>> very well for Huygens (all deconvolution and rendering works >>> perfectly). >>>>> However when using Imaris and trying to look at a dataset over RDP from >>>> my >>>>> MacBook Pro to an analysis workstation, fitted with a NVIDIA GeForce >>> GTX >>>>> 1080, in 3D Volume view or slice mode I get the following error “Sorry, >>>>> your graphics board does not support this visualisation mode. It may >>> help >>>>> to turn off some channels.” >>>>> >>>>> Could this be down to the fact that the GPU is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX >>> 1080, >>>>> a gaming card, and not a Quadro of some description? When I try >>>> connecting >>>>> into an older workstation that has a NVIDIA Quadro 4000 and an old >>>> version >>>>> of Imaris I can see the rendering correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone help with some tips on setting up my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 >>>> to >>>>> work with Imaris over RDP? >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to hearing from you and working from home on this nice >>>>> little project. >>>>> >>>>> King regards, >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr Ben Sutcliffe >>>>> Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy >>>>> MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology >>>>> Francis Crick Avenue >>>>> Cambridge Biomedical Campus >>>>> Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Giacomelli, Ph.D. >>>> Assistant Professor >>>> Department of Biomedical Engineering & Institute of Optics >>>> University of Rochester >>>> > -- > Dr Ben Sutcliffe > Cell Biology Division / Light Microscopy > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > Francis Crick Avenue > Cambridge Biomedical Campus > Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK |
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