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We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)

Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.  The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Michael

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Re: high 700s nm detection with Zeiss 710?

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I found a place on their spec sheet that claims that you are good out to 1100 nm.  Have not tested this personally, YMMV.

Michael

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We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)

Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.  The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Michael

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Hi, you should be able to find the specs, with curves, on the Hamamatsu
web-site. On the LSM510 they were model #R6357 I believe. I do not know
what model was used on the 710.
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Brian D Armstrong PhD
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I found a place on their spec sheet that claims that you are good out to
1100 nm.  Have not tested this personally, YMMV.

Michael

>>> "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]> 02/04/11 3:45 PM >>>
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We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the
Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for
wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)

Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR
emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.
The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website
don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Michael

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Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine
Lab: (212) 263-3208  Cell: (914) 309-3270

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Re: high 700s nm detection with Zeiss 710?

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Could 1100 be an IR option?

This says 750, and that is also selectable the software.  Since we  
have normal PMTs the performance at 1100  would be poor -maybe even  
useless except for reflected light? You would also need IR corrected  
lenses.

http://www.zeiss.com/C1256D18002CC306/0/BA710158046BB095C125749B004861E4/$file/60-1-0006.pdf

"The basis is a filter-free spectral detection unit,
which can be continuously set over the
entire wavelength range from 390 to 750
nm"

Hope this helps.

Cheers Mark


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> I found a place on their spec sheet that claims that you are good  
> out to 1100 nm.  Have not tested this personally, YMMV.
>
> Michael
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>>>> "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]> 02/04/11 3:45 PM >>>
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> We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with  
> the Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits  
> for wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)
>
> Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  
> DiR emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may  
> image it.  The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the  
> Zeiss website don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael
>
> ________________________________________________________
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure this type is used in the PMT-based multi-anode
spectral detectors used by Nikon and Zeiss.  I have several Nikon spectral
units and they cover 400-750nm.

Craig


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> Could 1100 be an IR option?
>
> This says 750, and that is also selectable the software.  Since we have
> normal PMTs the performance at 1100  would be poor -maybe even useless
> except for reflected light? You would also need IR corrected lenses.
>
>
> http://www.zeiss.com/C1256D18002CC306/0/BA710158046BB095C125749B004861E4/$file/60-1-0006.pdf
>
> "The basis is a filter-free spectral detection unit,
> which can be continuously set over the
> entire wavelength range from 390 to 750
> nm"
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers Mark
>
>
>
> On 5/02/2011, at 9:59 AM, Michael Schell wrote:
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>  *****
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>> I found a place on their spec sheet that claims that you are good out to
>> 1100 nm.  Have not tested this personally, YMMV.
>>
>> Michael
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>>  "Cammer, Michael" <[hidden email]> 02/04/11 3:45 PM >>>
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>> We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the
>> Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for
>> wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)
>>
>> Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR
>> emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.
>>  The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website
>> don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
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 Hi Michael,
you would also need to think about the microscope dichroics. When you use the pulsed laser which is usually used for 2 photon excitation, then the dichroic to couple this into the beam pass would most likely reflect everything above the given cutoff wavelength, when you use the 690 dichroic it will pass fluorescence below 690 nm but not above. A 80/20 splitter might do the trick but i am not sure if this is in there as standard. Another consideration is that the AOM will probably not allow you to adjust laser power low enough, but putting an additional filter in the beam pass should solve this easily. Some microscope manufactuers insert additional IR locking filter in front of their detector units, but i think for the LSM 710 this is not the case.

best wishes

Andreas


 


 

 

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We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the Zeiss

710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for wavelength.  (We can

use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)



Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR emits

with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.  The Zen

software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website don't say, or at

least I haven't found the ones that do.



Thank you.



Sincerely,



Michael



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Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine

Lab: (212) 263-3208  Cell: (914) 309-3270



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Thank you all for suggestions.

The result is that it did not work.

Using the external detector, we can get a fuzzy widefield fluoresence image.  Not useful for our current project and we have a widefield 'scope we could use for this anyhow.

According to the software controls, the internal detectors collect up through 758 nm. However, testing with reflection mode with the longest wavelength physical gate, collection is practical only to 740 nm. After 740 nm collection intensity falls rapidly and is not detectable above 750 nm.

Thanks again.

Sincerely,

Michael C.



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Subject: high 700s nm detection with Zeiss 710?

We are thinking of using DiR for membrane labeling and imaging with the Zeiss 710 with three internal detectors with adjustable slits for wavelength.  (We can use a pulsed laser at 750 nm for excitation.)

Does anyone know where the internal detectors of the 710 top out.  DiR emits with a peak at 788 nm and we want to know whether we may image it.  The Zen software is ambiguous and the spec sheets on the Zeiss website don't say, or at least I haven't found the ones that do.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Michael

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