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A new confocal user came to me just now and asked if we could image cells grown on transwell membranes.  I sputtered a bit and then said I would pose the question here.

 

The advantage to the user is that the cells are more polarized when they use the transwells.   The cells would grow on the inside membrane, they are not expecting them to migrate to the bottom (outside) part of the membrane.  They would fix the cells and then do the immuno labeling on the cells while they are still attached to the membrane.

 

We have an upright Zeiss 510META confocal.

 

I know from experience in our histology lab that if you cut out the membrane it tends to roll up like a scroll.

 

Any ideas/suggestions?

 

Doug

 

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This is exactly like the setup I use- suspended filters and an
upright microscope.  Live cell imaging is easy (dipping objectives),
fixed samples requires a little prep. Here's how we remove the
filters, the whole process takes about 5 minutes once you are practiced:

Place the transwell/milliwell filter insert onto a glass slide, right
side up.  There should be a little fluid on the top surface, and a
liquid film between the filter and slide.  If using a milliwell
insert, orient one of the little feet at 12:00.

Using a scalpel and holding the insert flat against the glass, make
two cuts along the boundary- one from about 1:00 to 6:00, the other
from 11:00 to 6:00.  The fluid helps keep the filter flat, but if the
edges roll up, that's fine for now.

Slightly tilt the insert towards you- the point of attachment of the
filter should be slightly off the glass. Use a small pair of scissors
to cut the filter still attached to the insert.  I've used a Noyes
scissor, a Barraquer scissor, and a Vannas scissor.  I prefer the
Barraquer because I'm a lefty and the angle works better, but any of
them are ok as long as they are SHARP.

Now the filter should be free- remove the insert, and use a couple of
probes to flatten out the filter.  If the filter does not come free,
carefully cut away wherever the filter is still attached with the
scissors. Carefully wick off the fluid with a Kimwipe or whatever,
add Vectashield and a glass coverslip.  Seal the edges with nail
polish, and you are good to go.  Some people build up a spacer, but
my experience is that it's not required.

Let me know if you need additional details.

Andy

At 12:14 PM 5/13/2008, you wrote:

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>A new confocal user came to me just now and asked if we could image
>cells grown on transwell membranes.  I sputtered a bit and then said
>I would pose the question here.
>
>The advantage to the user is that the cells are more polarized when
>they use the transwells.   The cells would grow on the inside
>membrane, they are not expecting them to migrate to the bottom
>(outside) part of the membrane.  They would fix the cells and then
>do the immuno labeling on the cells while they are still attached to
>the membrane.
>
>We have an upright Zeiss 510META confocal.
>
>I know from experience in our histology lab that if you cut out the
>membrane it tends to roll up like a scroll.
>
>Any ideas/suggestions?
>
>Doug
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Douglas W. Cromey, M.S. - Assistant Scientific Investigator
>Dept. of Cell Biology & Anatomy, University of Arizona
>1501 N. Campbell Ave, Tucson, AZ  85724-5044 USA
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Bioptechs has a product and technique that addresses this problem. We have many users of this technique. 

 We plate our cells on the basal surface of the transwell insert in the following manner.

 1. A bio-compatible piece of tubing is cut into a small cylinder of suitable geometry as to provide a shallow well and fluid barrier when

placed over the distal end of the insert.

2. A plug made of silicon is placed into the tubular portion of the insert to prevent leakage through the membrane.  (not always necessary)

3. The insert is inverted (membrane side up) and cells are poured into the well defined by the cylindrical tubing surrounding the membrane.

4. The insert/s with cells are returned to the incubator and allowed to plate in this inverted orientation.

5. After the cells have plated, the plug and tubing are removed from the insert and the insert is returned to the original tray right side up with appropriate media and allowed to divide until confluent.   

6. When the cells are confluent the insert is placed into a Bioptechs Delta T4 Transwell Adapter which is then lowered into a Delta T dish

on the microscope.   The cells are now facing down for easy imaging through the coverglass bottomed self-heating Delta T dish.  See the 

Bioptechs web site for details.  http://www.bioptechs.com/Products/Delta_T/Options/options.html#membraneadapter

7. Cells on the membrane can be perfused on either the apical or basal surface with appropriate accessory during microscopy.

 

Dan

 




On May 13, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Doug Cromey wrote:

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A new confocal user came to me just now and asked if we could image cells grown on transwell membranes.  I sputtered a bit and then said I would pose the question here.
 
The advantage to the user is that the cells are more polarized when they use the transwells.   The cells would grow on the inside membrane, they are not expecting them to migrate to the bottom (outside) part of the membrane.  They would fix the cells and then do the immuno labeling on the cells while they are still attached to the membrane.
 
We have an upright Zeiss 510META confocal.
 
I know from experience in our histology lab that if you cut out the membrane it tends to roll up like a scroll.
 
Any ideas/suggestions?
 
Doug
 
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We do this all the time in our Core facility (we too have a 510 META, inverted).  Users fix and stain the cells on the membrane, then I decant their final wash buffer and cut out the wet membrane with a razor blade while holding it with forceps.  I've never had one roll up on me.  I put the moist membrane onto a slide, add mount, and cover.
 
Esteban 

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A new confocal user came to me just now and asked if we could image cells grown on transwell membranes.  I sputtered a bit and then said I would pose the question here.

 

The advantage to the user is that the cells are more polarized when they use the transwells.   The cells would grow on the inside membrane, they are not expecting them to migrate to the bottom (outside) part of the membrane.  They would fix the cells and then do the immuno labeling on the cells while they are still attached to the membrane.

 

We have an upright Zeiss 510META confocal.

 

I know from experience in our histology lab that if you cut out the membrane it tends to roll up like a scroll.

 

Any ideas/suggestions?

 

Doug

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Douglas W. Cromey, M.S. - Assistant Scientific Investigator

Dept. of Cell Biology & Anatomy, University of Arizona

1501 N. Campbell Ave, Tucson, AZ  85724-5044 USA

 

office:  AHSC 4212         email: [hidden email]

voice:  520-626-2824       fax:  520-626-2097

 

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Hi Doug,
 
I've used these transwell membranes before quite a bit. Depending on the membrane, I have found that they do have a tendency to roll up and are awkward to work with when using the very small ones, however the main thing is to hold the membrane firmly when cutting it out  as Esteban mentioned, so that you don't lose the orientation and end up mounting it upside down.
 
Once you have the mounting medium on it, you can then use the coverslip to weigh it down and it generally flattens down OK.
 
Kind regards,
 
Jacqui
 

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We do this all the time in our Core facility (we too have a 510 META, inverted).  Users fix and stain the cells on the membrane, then I decant their final wash buffer and cut out the wet membrane with a razor blade while holding it with forceps.  I've never had one roll up on me.  I put the moist membrane onto a slide, add mount, and cover.
 
Esteban 

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A new confocal user came to me just now and asked if we could image cells grown on transwell membranes.  I sputtered a bit and then said I would pose the question here.

 

The advantage to the user is that the cells are more polarized when they use the transwells.   The cells would grow on the inside membrane, they are not expecting them to migrate to the bottom (outside) part of the membrane.  They would fix the cells and then do the immuno labeling on the cells while they are still attached to the membrane.

 

We have an upright Zeiss 510META confocal.

 

I know from experience in our histology lab that if you cut out the membrane it tends to roll up like a scroll.

 

Any ideas/suggestions?

 

Doug

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Douglas W. Cromey, M.S. - Assistant Scientific Investigator

Dept. of Cell Biology & Anatomy, University of Arizona

1501 N. Campbell Ave, Tucson, AZ  85724-5044 USA

 

office:  AHSC 4212         email: [hidden email]

voice:  520-626-2824       fax:  520-626-2097

 

http://swehsc.pharmacy.arizona.edu/exppath/

Home of: "Microscopy and Imaging Resources on the WWW"

 




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Associate Director
Molecular Cytology Core Facility
University of Missouri
120 Bond Life Sciences Center
Columbia, MO 65211

http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/mcc/

573-882-4895
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Doug-

The scrolling of the transwell membrane isn't necessarily a bad thing,
admittedly it depends what you are looking at.
My wife and I came up with a way of rolling up her membranes on which she
had grown organotypic rat epidermal cells - Dale Laird's lab at Univ. Western
Ontario would be the people to contact now. The stratified epithelium
tolerated the rolling well, we just froze it in OCT and cryosectioned
transversely at around 8-10 um and the images were quite good.

Sorry you didn't mention what it was the polarized epithelium was. With a
nonstratified epithelium your mileage may vary (significantly).

Cheers,

Kevin

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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta. Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

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Hallo Renato,

We have it. It works nicely for DAPI.

Cheers   Gabor
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        405 laser works beautifully for DAPI.

Dr. Ian Montgomery,
Histotechnology,
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Thomson Building,
University of Glasgow,
Glasgow,
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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta. Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

Renato A. Mortara
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Greetings,

We have the 405 diode laser on a Zeiss 510 (without Meta) and it works
quite well for DAPI.

Best Wishes,

Bill Monroe

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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta.
Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with
this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

Renato A. Mortara
Parasitology Division
UNIFESP -  Escola Paulista de Medicina
Rua Botucatu, 862, 6th floor
São Paulo, SP
04023- 062
Brazil
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Don't know about Zeiss, but we used a 405 Diode laser on a Nikon C1Si with DAPI and got good images.

Craig


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Greetings,

We have the 405 diode laser on a Zeiss 510 (without Meta) and it works
quite well for DAPI.

Best Wishes,

Bill Monroe

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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta.
Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with
this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

Renato A. Mortara
Parasitology Division
UNIFESP -  Escola Paulista de Medicina
Rua Botucatu, 862, 6th floor
São Paulo, SP
04023- 062
Brazil
Phone: 55 11 5579- 8306
Fax:     55 11 5571- 1095
email: [hidden email]
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We've a new Zeiss 510 Dou system and the 405 works really well with DAPI

Rick,

Richard Harris, Manager - Imaging and Data Systems
The Biotron - Experimental Climate Change Research
University of Western Ontario,
London Ontario, CANADA.
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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta. Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

Renato A. Mortara
Parasitology Division
UNIFESP - Escola Paulista de Medicina
Rua Botucatu, 862, 6th floor
São Paulo, SP
04023-062
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Hi Renato,

we have one on a 510 Meta.  It works well for
DAPI (and Hoechst) especially on cultured cells.
On tissue sections, we have sometimes had less
than perfect imaging. This is propably due to the
fact that as 405 is a rather inefficient exciter
of DAPI, we have to increase laser power and or
detector gain more than what would be needed for
UV excitation. This in turn increases tissue
autofluorescence in some types of fixed samples.

Best regards,


Jan Grawé

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Thanks Rick !!

Best wishes

Renato

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We've a new Zeiss 510 Dou system and the 405 works really well with DAPI

Rick,

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Experimental Climate Change Research University of Western Ontario, London
Ontario, CANADA.
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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a 405 diode laser installed on a Zeiss 510 Meta. Any
feedbacks (specifically, how well imaging of e.g. DAPI can be done with this
laser) would be grately appreciated !

Many thanks,

Renato

Renato A. Mortara
Parasitology Division
UNIFESP - Escola Paulista de Medicina
Rua Botucatu, 862, 6th floor
São Paulo, SP
04023-062
Brazil
Phone: 55 11 5579-8306
Fax:     55 11 5571-1095
email: [hidden email]
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We have a 405nm laser on our Zeiss 510 Meta system (NOT MP).  The 405 line works fine -- but we have never been able to get the fluorescence from the 405 excitation lined up correctly (automatically) with the fluorescence from the other (VIS) lasers.  This problem has haunted us (and our Zeiss engineers) ever since we purchased the instrument.

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