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looking for a second-hand 2 photon upright microscope

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We have a colleague who is looking for a second-hand 2 photon upright microscope.  Any information including reputable websites that sell used microscopes greatly appreciated; please contact offline.
Thank you!


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Michael Cammer, Assistant Research Scientist
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EMCCD Camera

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Hello All,
                    We are in the process of purchasing a EMCCD camera
for our microscope to look at very low levels of fluorescence. In this
context, we evaluated the following cameras

1. Photometrics Evolve 512

2. Andor iXon X3  DU897.

Both of them performed similarly though the Andor had less background
noise. However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan
stays on unless we shut down the computer. So the question to all the
folks who have used Andor before is that have you had issues with this
kind of system.

Any feedback will be great for us to make a decision.

Thanks,

-Prabhakar
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Re: EMCCD Camera

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, B. Prabhakar Pandian <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan stays on
> unless we shut down the computer.
>
>
I recently asked our local Andor rep, Charles Fanghella, about this issue
and his response may be of interest:

********************

Then fan is powered by the PCI interface card and cable, so as long as the
PC is on the fan will have power. It actually is not cooling the camera down
to your set temperature just keeping the electronics cool. There is no
problem with letting it run continuously, as the factory has a system going
for 7 sevens years round the clock. If you want to leave the PC on and stop
the fan just disconnect the interface cable from the head of the camera.
However, connect and disconnect only when you have closed your software



*Regards;*

*Charles Fanghella*
Regional Sales Engineer
****************


We have an iXon 860 and have been happy with it.

Regards,
Matt

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Laboratory of Arne Gennerich
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Albert Einstein College of Medicine
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Re: EMCCD Camera

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Am I clear in understanding here that it is OK to hot plug/unplug your Andor at the camera head?

Cheers

Neil

> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:26:36 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: EMCCD Camera
> To: [hidden email]
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, B. Prabhakar Pandian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >  However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan stays on
> > unless we shut down the computer.
> >
> >
> I recently asked our local Andor rep, Charles Fanghella, about this issue
> and his response may be of interest:
>
> ********************
>
> Then fan is powered by the PCI interface card and cable, so as long as the
> PC is on the fan will have power. It actually is not cooling the camera down
> to your set temperature just keeping the electronics cool. There is no
> problem with letting it run continuously, as the factory has a system going
> for 7 sevens years round the clock. If you want to leave the PC on and stop
> the fan just disconnect the interface cable from the head of the camera.
> However, connect and disconnect only when you have closed your software
>
>
>
> *Regards;*
>
> *Charles Fanghella*
> Regional Sales Engineer
> ****************
>
>
> We have an iXon 860 and have been happy with it.
>
> Regards,
> Matt
>
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> Medical Scientist Training Program Student
> Laboratory of Arne Gennerich
> Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology
> Albert Einstein College of Medicine
> Forchheimer Building, Room 628
> 1300 Morris Park Avenue
> Bronx, New York 10461
> 718.430.3446
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Re: EMCCD Camera

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Neil Kad <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Am I clear in understanding here that it is OK to hot plug/unplug your
> Andor at the camera head?
>
> As I understand it, yes (someone please correct me if you have experience
to the contrary). However, I have not done so personally. My main concern is
actually physical wear on the connector due to constantly
plugging/unplugging it. Our microscope is in pretty frequent use, so we
leave the iXon on more or less constantly. When it will not be used for more
than a day or so, we usually shut down the PC (and therefore the camera).

Best regards,
Matt

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Cameron, Lisa Cameron, Lisa
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I have an Andor 897 on a system in my core facility.
The system (computer) is on 10-12hrs a day coming up on 3yrs and I haven't had
any fan/cooling issues.
We shut down the system at night and I have taught users to shut down the
computer.
(also had Andor EMCCDs in past labs and they worked well)

For hotswaping:
My understanding is the computer can be on, but the software controlling the
camera needs to be off.
But perhaps we should get confirmation from an Andor rep.

-Lisa

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Director of Confocal and Light Microscopy
Dana Farber Cancer Institute
Boston, MA 02215

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Subject: [CONFOCALMICROSCOPY] EMCCD Camera

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Hello All,
                    We are in the process of purchasing a EMCCD camera
for our microscope to look at very low levels of fluorescence. In this
context, we evaluated the following cameras

1. Photometrics Evolve 512

2. Andor iXon X3  DU897.

Both of them performed similarly though the Andor had less background
noise. However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan
stays on unless we shut down the computer. So the question to all the
folks who have used Andor before is that have you had issues with this
kind of system.

Any feedback will be great for us to make a decision.

Thanks,

-Prabhakar


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I heard back from Andor at their USA Connecticut Office:

"As long as the software is not grabbing control of the camera, you can remove
the white cable from the camera or the PC.  When the power from the PCI bus is
no longer getting to the camera, the fan will not run.  Of course, if you plan
to use the computer without the camera, it is best practice to disconnect it
before starting but if you need to disconnect while the PC power is on, it will
not damage the hardware.  If you try to disconnect while Andor iQ software is
controlling the camera, it can cause errors so do take due caution not to do
this.

 
In addition, we have designed our newer PCI-Express CCI-24 card to turn the fan
off when the camera is not in use and the acquisition software is exited, even
if the PC is on.

-Tom Nunn"


Prabhakar, perhaps you can request this new PCI-express card at purchase -

Lisa

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Director of Confocal and Light Microscopy
Dana Farber Cancer Institute
Boston, MA


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Subject: [CONFOCALMICROSCOPY] EMCCD Camera

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Hello All,
                    We are in the process of purchasing a EMCCD camera
for our microscope to look at very low levels of fluorescence. In this
context, we evaluated the following cameras

1. Photometrics Evolve 512

2. Andor iXon X3  DU897.

Both of them performed similarly though the Andor had less background
noise. However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan
stays on unless we shut down the computer. So the question to all the
folks who have used Andor before is that have you had issues with this
kind of system.

Any feedback will be great for us to make a decision.

Thanks,

-Prabhakar


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Hi Prabhakar,

I have used both these cameras and in my opinion, the Evolve is a much
superior camera with the photoelectron info readout ability and plug and
play format with no need for a framegrabber at all that to me there is no
question. Plus the Evolve self calibrates so it is set up for your
system once it has been connected. I love this camera!!

Loralei

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>
> Hello All,
>                   We are in the process of purchasing a EMCCD camera for
> our microscope to look at very low levels of fluorescence. In this context,
> we evaluated the following cameras
>
> 1. Photometrics Evolve 512
>
> 2. Andor iXon X3  DU897.
>
> Both of them performed similarly though the Andor had less background
> noise. However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan stays
> on unless we shut down the computer. So the question to all the folks who
> have used Andor before is that have you had issues with this kind of system.
>
> Any feedback will be great for us to make a decision.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Prabhakar
>
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Hi Loralei,
                       Thanks for the information. Could you please
clarify with some details as to your reason on the superiority of the
camera.  We had couple of issues with the Evolve.

1. The main controller wires run off the front of the camera and there
is  very high probability that because of this mode, the wires can go
bad in the long run.

2. Andor had a much higher signal/noise ratio for our samples of about
10nM.

3. In Windows 7, the Firewire used by Evolve has the last preference in
priority.


I would love to hear your comments on your usage.

Thanks,

-Prabhakar

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> Hi Prabhakar,
>
> I have used both these cameras and in my opinion, the Evolve is a much
> superior camera with the photoelectron info readout ability and plug and
> play format with no need for a framegrabber at all that to me there is no
> question. Plus the Evolve self calibrates so it is set up for your
> system once it has been connected. I love this camera!!
>
> Loralei
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:26 PM, B. Prabhakar Pandian<[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> *****
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>>
>> Hello All,
>>                    We are in the process of purchasing a EMCCD camera for
>> our microscope to look at very low levels of fluorescence. In this context,
>> we evaluated the following cameras
>>
>> 1. Photometrics Evolve 512
>>
>> 2. Andor iXon X3  DU897.
>>
>> Both of them performed similarly though the Andor had less background
>> noise. However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan stays
>> on unless we shut down the computer. So the question to all the folks who
>> have used Andor before is that have you had issues with this kind of system.
>>
>> Any feedback will be great for us to make a decision.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Prabhakar
>>
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Matthew Nicholas <[hidden email]> writes:

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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, B. Prabhakar Pandian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  However, the Andor does not have an on/off switch and the fan stays on
>> unless we shut down the computer.
>>
>>
> I recently asked our local Andor rep, Charles Fanghella, about this issue
> and his response may be of interest:

No mater what Andor says this is a mad piece of design. Fans are
mechanical and do fail. We have had a fan ware out and the camera had to
go back to Andor, so now we shut down the PC which isn't the most
convenient either.

I think that fact that new version don't have this "feature"
demonstrates that even Andor think it is a bad idea.

Ian
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