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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All suggestions are appreciated. |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Patty, We have keypad/card access on all our rooms. This is not networked, but the lock itself saves the last 1000 entries with timestamp and ID info. Facilities has access to this, and if a problem should arise, we can get the information (a little NSA'ish?). The only downside to this is for me, as I am constantly going through all (3 rooms) the doors. I now have my card on a retractable lanyard, so it's really not that bad. Best, Gary Gary Laevsky, Ph.D. Confocal Imaging Facility Manager Dept. of Molecular Biology Washington Rd. Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey, 08544-1014 (O) 609 258 5432 (C) 508 507 1310 On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Patty Conrad <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room > access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using > sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used > without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter > the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been > having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know > for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm > thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a > keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office > computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All > suggestions are appreciated. |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I have created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only once after training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back log so everybody signing in Windows gets automatically registered with their name, time in and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal Windows account (set up by the administrator - me) they can't use the system. This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Patty Conrad Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: monitoring room access ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All suggestions are appreciated. |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Patty, We have two confocal microscopes and we have a Locknetics swipe card system for each door. The access list is controlled by me and if there are problems, door access usage can be traced. However, there is no way to determine when someone leaves the room. For both confocals, the user needs to sign into an account, (monitored sign ins) before data acquisition can occur. One of the systems has interlocks such that the lasers can only be used if there is a computer sign in. The other confocal does not have this facility, but never-the-less, no images can be saved until a login has been completed. So far this system is working quite well. The only problem is that if the computer crashes before logout, then the total usage time is not recorded. I can not monitor usage from my office computer. I need to go in and log in to each confocal's control computer. (But then, I need to inspect the microscope rooms on a regular basis anyway.) Our other systems are likewise protected. Lon Lon Turnbull, Ph.D. Microscope Supervisor Department of Biological Sciences University of North Texas 940-369-8721 [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Patty Conrad Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:18 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: monitoring room access ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All suggestions are appreciated. |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** We use obfuscation; the confocal rooms are so hard to find no unauthorized individual could ever reach them. @:-) Seriously though, locks and keys and keycards like everyone else. The keycards are especially handy for tracking the last batch of people in the room when you are trying to figure out who broke something. Craig Brideau On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Turnbull, Lon <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Patty, > > We have two confocal microscopes and we have a Locknetics swipe card > system for each door. The access list is controlled by me and if there are > problems, door access usage can be traced. However, there is no way to > determine when someone leaves the room. For both confocals, the user needs > to sign into an account, (monitored sign ins) before data acquisition can > occur. One of the systems has interlocks such that the lasers can only be > used if there is a computer sign in. The other confocal does not have this > facility, but never-the-less, no images can be saved until a login has been > completed. So far this system is working quite well. The only problem is > that if the computer crashes before logout, then the total usage time is > not recorded. > > I can not monitor usage from my office computer. I need to go in and log > in to each confocal's control computer. (But then, I need to inspect the > microscope rooms on a regular basis anyway.) > > Our other systems are likewise protected. > > Lon > > > Lon Turnbull, Ph.D. > Microscope Supervisor > Department of Biological Sciences > University of North Texas > 940-369-8721 > [hidden email] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Patty Conrad > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:18 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal > room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage > using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can > be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone > can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have > lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like > to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at > any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. > Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage > via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like > it? All suggestions are appreciated. > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they have been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and I have it on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who is logged on any system at any time, even from home, so I can see if someone came in as scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the system would be left on all night unless I go in and turn it off (maybe a bad feature, actually). This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so you have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old style mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is a cheap option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You just need one of those handy electronics nerds. I also use the obfuscation method. Carol <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> Carol Bayles Microscopy and Imaging B46 Weill Hall www.biotech.cornell.edu Nanobiotechnolocy Center www.nbtc.cornell.edu Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14850 607-254-4860 -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: monitoring room access ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I have created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only once after training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back log so everybody signing in Windows gets automatically registered with their name, time in and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal Windows account (set up by the administrator - me) they can't use the system. This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Patty Conrad Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: monitoring room access ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All suggestions are appreciated. |
 
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Have you considered a webcam? I think that might be a simple solution, depending on exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Assuming that all you're looking for is a record of recent access that you consult only when there is a problem, you could use a webcam with a motion activation feature to snap pictures or take short video clips of people entering the room. Something like this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-motion-sensor-webcam-softwares-to-snap-those-intruders/ With minimal effort, you should be able to have it save time-stamped images (e.g. via FTP) somewhere that only you have access to, and automatically delete the files after a couple weeks. That would save you the trouble of a more complicated access system with keycards etc. It also prevents any issues with people sharing cards or logins. Obviously, because it only records access -- rather than controlling it -- it may not be that effective in limiting the damage in the first place (except maybe as a deterrent, e.g. "Smile, you're on camera" signs). People also may object more vigorously to having their photo taken than to swiping a card (whether that's logical or not). Finally, it's probably easier to tamper with or evade (think, ski mask-wearing microscope bandits armed with cans of spray paint). On the upside, it should not cost you more than ~$50. -Matt On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Carol J. Bayles <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, > called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they have > been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and I have it > on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who is logged on any > system at any time, even from home, so I can see if someone came in as > scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the system would be left on > all night unless I go in and turn it off (maybe a bad feature, actually). > This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card > swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an > interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so you > have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old style > mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is a cheap > option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You just > need one of those handy electronics nerds. > I also use the obfuscation method. > Carol > > <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> > Carol Bayles > Microscopy and Imaging > B46 Weill Hall > www.biotech.cornell.edu > Nanobiotechnolocy Center > www.nbtc.cornell.edu > Cornell University > Ithaca, NY 14850 > 607-254-4860 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I have > created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only once after > training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back log so everybody > signing in Windows gets automatically registered with their name, time in > and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal Windows account (set up by > the administrator - me) they can't use the system. > This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. > > Michelle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Patty Conrad > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal > room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage > using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can > be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone > can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have > lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like > to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at > any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. > Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage > via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like > it? > All suggestions are appreciated. > -- Matthew Nicholas Medical Scientist Training Program Student Laboratory of Arne Gennerich Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology Albert Einstein College of Medicine Forchheimer Building, Room 628 1300 Morris Park Avenue Bronx, New York 10461 718.430.3446 [hidden email] |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I like that simple webcam solution, although as Matthew mentioned it will monitor access, rather than preventing access or determined theft (I think only a card access system or trusted sign out key access system will work for that). "Approved User" logon systems can work to only allow approved users on to the system, though, and can be used to monitor usage as well. Since we have a tiny (dangerous?) bit of UNIX knowledge here, for monitoring access (and generating a nice monthly report of actual time each user is logged in), for pre-Windows 7 computers, a simple export of System Security log Events and a fairly straightforward AWK script works fine, producing an Excel spreadsheet of users and logon logoff times each month (or whenever you want). For Mac OSX computers, using the builtin Terminal (UNIX) program, one can just run the command "last >>~/Desktop/userlogfile.log" which will append all recent login/logout info to the end of the userlogfile.log For Windows 7 computers (where the export file of System Security Events has changed drastically) another nice and easy (free) program to extract logon-lgoff data, using a Windows Powershell script (powershell comes with the Windows 7 OS, good reference at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee176949.aspx) can be found at http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Log-Parser-to-Identify-8aac36bd. All of the methods above pre-suppose that you have (1) set up individual local user accounts on each computer for each approved user, or that you have (2) had your IT department set up a method so that you can specify particular user accounts (using University- or college-wide digital identities and passwords) that have the right to access each computer (I recommend the second one if possible since that keeps you from having to do a lot of "I forgot my password" work resetting passwords etc.). And of course none of them do anything to prevent or monitor users using a microscope if it is not necessary to logon to the computer to use the microscope. --Bruce ************************************************* Bruce A. 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If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Matthew Nicholas <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Have you considered a webcam? I think that might be a simple solution, > depending on exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Assuming that > all you're looking for is a record of recent access that you consult only > when there is a problem, you could use a webcam with a motion activation > feature to snap pictures or take short video clips of people entering the > room. Something like this: > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-motion-sensor-webcam-softwares-to-snap-those-intruders/ > With minimal effort, you should be able to have it save time-stamped images > (e.g. via FTP) somewhere that only you have access to, and automatically > delete the files after a couple weeks. That would save you the trouble of a > more complicated access system with keycards etc. It also prevents any > issues with people sharing cards or logins. Obviously, because it only > records access -- rather than controlling it -- it may not be that > effective in limiting the damage in the first place (except maybe as a > deterrent, e.g. "Smile, you're on camera" signs). People also may object > more vigorously to having their photo taken than to swiping a card (whether > that's logical or not). Finally, it's probably easier to tamper with or > evade (think, ski mask-wearing microscope bandits armed with cans of spray > paint). On the upside, it should not cost you more than ~$50. > > -Matt > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Carol J. Bayles <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, >> called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they have >> been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and I have it >> on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who is logged on any >> system at any time, even from home, so I can see if someone came in as >> scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the system would be left on >> all night unless I go in and turn it off (maybe a bad feature, actually). >> This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card >> swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an >> interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so you >> have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old style >> mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is a cheap >> option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You just >> need one of those handy electronics nerds. >> I also use the obfuscation method. >> Carol >> >> <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> >> Carol Bayles >> Microscopy and Imaging >> B46 Weill Hall >> www.biotech.cornell.edu >> Nanobiotechnolocy Center >> www.nbtc.cornell.edu >> Cornell University >> Ithaca, NY 14850 >> 607-254-4860 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] >> On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni >> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: monitoring room access >> >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I have >> created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only once after >> training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back log so everybody >> signing in Windows gets automatically registered with their name, time in >> and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal Windows account (set up by >> the administrator - me) they can't use the system. >> This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. >> >> Michelle >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] >> On Behalf Of Patty Conrad >> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: monitoring room access >> >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal >> room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage >> using sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can >> be used without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone >> can enter the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have >> lately been having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like >> to always know for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at >> any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. >> Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage >> via my office computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like >> it? >> All suggestions are appreciated. >> > > > > -- > Matthew Nicholas > Medical Scientist Training Program Student > Laboratory of Arne Gennerich > Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology > Albert Einstein College of Medicine > Forchheimer Building, Room 628 > 1300 Morris Park Avenue > Bronx, New York 10461 > 718.430.3446 > [hidden email] |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Patty, Depending on which system you are using, you might try unassigning the function button on the microscope stand that selects the objective. This way the user would have to login to the software to select the objective. This is not a perfect solution since the objective turret could still be turned manually, but may be a sufficient deterrent. This has the downside of creating an inconvenience for all of your users. I use WorkTime by Nestersoft (no commercial interest) for computer/system monitoring and am happy with it. Some of our labs here use the Sentry system from Rockwell Laser Industries (no commercial interest) for access control in their open beam rooms, but this is probably overkill. Good luck, Ben Core Facility Manager, UC Santa Cruz |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hey Patty, We have controlled computer login via Windows Server AD (controlled by the Microscopy Facility - Us). Which handles login access to all our computer systems (Microscopes and offline systems). This AD database also controls access to the image \ data files from anywhere in the Facility. For doors we have card swipes by Isonas (no affiliation). The door swipes are easily controlled by us (door access list can be stand alone or integrated with Windows AD. Controlled by time windows, access levels, cards and\or keypads. Door swipes were inexpensive ($700 each). The Isonas swipes can track both entering and exiting (if you want). It can also be integrated with cameras - to image who is actually accessing. Nicety of controlling the access ourselves is we can add or remove people in 30 seconds. Activity records can be sorted and output any way you want. In fact yesterday I had a request to track a specific students access and confocal usage, and I generated both door access (eight in & outs in 2 hours late at night over the weekend), and confocal logins (two with less than 45 mins use) to answer the question is this student actually doing any work? And the PI was very surprised at how much detail in usage we could provide. (To be clear we rarely have ever done this sort of tracking but it can be done if needed. We use the access controls to keep untrained fingers off the equipment, and readily provide traingin and access to everyone.) Hope this helps! On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Patty Conrad <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal > room > access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage > using > sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used > without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter > the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately > been > having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always > know > for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. > I'm > thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a > keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office > computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All > suggestions are appreciated. > -- Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D. Center for Advanced Microscopy & Imaging, Director 9C Upham Hall Miami University Oxford, OH 45056 Phone: 513-529-5712 Email: [hidden email] Web: www.cami.muohio.edu |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** A few years ago (different employer) a lab on my floor kept having cases of cell culture media stolen. I offered to give them an old video camera to mount up in a corner with no intention of actually recording anything, just to scare the thieves. They liked the idea but declined the camera. They did put up signs that the room was under surveillance. The theft stopped. Having to read Foucault's Panoptican back in Semiotics class in college was useful for something. Please don't ask me what semiotics is or was. Regards, Michael C. -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Nicholas Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:53 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: monitoring room access ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Have you considered a webcam? I think that might be a simple solution, depending on exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Assuming that all you're looking for is a record of recent access that you consult only when there is a problem, you could use a webcam with a motion activation feature to snap pictures or take short video clips of people entering the room. Something like this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-motion-sensor-webcam-softwares-to-snap-those-intruders/ With minimal effort, you should be able to have it save time-stamped images (e.g. via FTP) somewhere that only you have access to, and automatically delete the files after a couple weeks. That would save you the trouble of a more complicated access system with keycards etc. It also prevents any issues with people sharing cards or logins. Obviously, because it only records access -- rather than controlling it -- it may not be that effective in limiting the damage in the first place (except maybe as a deterrent, e.g. "Smile, you're on camera" signs). People also may object more vigorously to having their photo taken than to swiping a card (whether that's logical or not). Finally, it's probably easier to tamper with or evade (think, ski mask-wearing microscope bandits armed with cans of spray paint). On the upside, it should not cost you more than ~$50. -Matt On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Carol J. Bayles <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, > called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they > have been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and > I have it on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who > is logged on any system at any time, even from home, so I can see if > someone came in as scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the > system would be left on all night unless I go in and turn it off (maybe a bad feature, actually). > This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card > swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an > interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so > you have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old > style mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is a cheap > option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You just > need one of those handy electronics nerds. > I also use the obfuscation method. > Carol > > <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> > Carol Bayles > Microscopy and Imaging > B46 Weill Hall > www.biotech.cornell.edu > Nanobiotechnolocy Center > www.nbtc.cornell.edu > Cornell University > Ithaca, NY 14850 > 607-254-4860 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I > have created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only > once after training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back > log so everybody signing in Windows gets automatically registered with > their name, time in and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal > Windows account (set up by the administrator - me) they can't use the system. > This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. > > Michelle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Patty Conrad > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor > confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check > confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the > microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer > program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they > can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with > someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain > who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. > Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room > entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use > and how do you like it? > All suggestions are appreciated. > -- Matthew Nicholas Medical Scientist Training Program Student Laboratory of Arne Gennerich Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology Albert Einstein College of Medicine Forchheimer Building, Room 628 1300 Morris Park Avenue Bronx, New York 10461 718.430.3446 [hidden email] |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** confocals have laser keys which can be pulled out and lock the laser they wont start then simple...so no system abuse On 3 August 2013 02:34, Cammer, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > A few years ago (different employer) a lab on my floor kept having cases > of cell culture media stolen. I offered to give them an old video camera > to mount up in a corner with no intention of actually recording anything, > just to scare the thieves. They liked the idea but declined the camera. > They did put up signs that the room was under surveillance. The theft > stopped. Having to read Foucault's Panoptican back in Semiotics class in > college was useful for something. Please don't ask me what semiotics is or > was. > Regards, > Michael C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Matthew Nicholas > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:53 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Have you considered a webcam? I think that might be a simple solution, > depending on exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Assuming that > all you're looking for is a record of recent access that you consult only > when there is a problem, you could use a webcam with a motion activation > feature to snap pictures or take short video clips of people entering the > room. Something like this: > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-motion-sensor-webcam-softwares-to-snap-those-intruders/ > With minimal effort, you should be able to have it save time-stamped > images (e.g. via FTP) somewhere that only you have access to, and > automatically delete the files after a couple weeks. That would save you > the trouble of a more complicated access system with keycards etc. It also > prevents any issues with people sharing cards or logins. Obviously, because > it only records access -- rather than controlling it -- it may not be that > effective in limiting the damage in the first place (except maybe as a > deterrent, e.g. "Smile, you're on camera" signs). People also may object > more vigorously to having their photo taken than to swiping a card (whether > that's logical or not). Finally, it's probably easier to tamper with or > evade (think, ski mask-wearing microscope bandits armed with cans of spray > paint). On the upside, it should not cost you more than ~$50. > > -Matt > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Carol J. Bayles <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, > > called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they > > have been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and > > I have it on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who > > is logged on any system at any time, even from home, so I can see if > > someone came in as scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the > > system would be left on all night unless I go in and turn it off (maybe > a bad feature, actually). > > This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card > > swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an > > interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so > > you have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old > > style mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is a > cheap > > option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You just > > need one of those handy electronics nerds. > > I also use the obfuscation method. > > Carol > > > > <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> > > Carol Bayles > > Microscopy and Imaging > > B46 Weill Hall > > www.biotech.cornell.edu > > Nanobiotechnolocy Center > > www.nbtc.cornell.edu > > Cornell University > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > 607-254-4860 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Confocal Microscopy List > > [mailto:[hidden email]] > > On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I > > have created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only > > once after training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back > > log so everybody signing in Windows gets automatically registered with > > their name, time in and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal > > Windows account (set up by the administrator - me) they can't use the > system. > > This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. > > > > Michelle > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Confocal Microscopy List > > [mailto:[hidden email]] > > On Behalf Of Patty Conrad > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: monitoring room access > > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor > > confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check > > confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the > > microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer > > program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they > > can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with > > someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain > > who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm > thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. > > Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room > > entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use > > and how do you like it? > > All suggestions are appreciated. > > > > > > -- > Matthew Nicholas > Medical Scientist Training Program Student Laboratory of Arne Gennerich > Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology Albert Einstein College of > Medicine Forchheimer Building, Room 628 > 1300 Morris Park Avenue > Bronx, New York 10461 > 718.430.3446 > [hidden email] > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** The only problem with that is the keys inevitably get lost if you move them around too much. This can be mitigated by having a spare in a safe place, but most facilities managers don't enjoy keeping track of keys on top of their other duties. Craig On 2013-08-03 4:59 AM, "Bhanu Prakash Mahawar" <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > confocals have laser keys which can be pulled out and lock the laser they > wont start then simple...so no system abuse > > > > On 3 August 2013 02:34, Cammer, Michael <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > A few years ago (different employer) a lab on my floor kept having cases > > of cell culture media stolen. I offered to give them an old video camera > > to mount up in a corner with no intention of actually recording anything, > > just to scare the thieves. They liked the idea but declined the camera. > > They did put up signs that the room was under surveillance. The theft > > stopped. Having to read Foucault's Panoptican back in Semiotics class > in > > college was useful for something. Please don't ask me what semiotics is > or > > was. > > Regards, > > Michael C. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > > On Behalf Of Matthew Nicholas > > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:53 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > Have you considered a webcam? I think that might be a simple solution, > > depending on exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Assuming that > > all you're looking for is a record of recent access that you consult only > > when there is a problem, you could use a webcam with a motion activation > > feature to snap pictures or take short video clips of people entering the > > room. Something like this: > > > > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-motion-sensor-webcam-softwares-to-snap-those-intruders/ > > With minimal effort, you should be able to have it save time-stamped > > images (e.g. via FTP) somewhere that only you have access to, and > > automatically delete the files after a couple weeks. That would save you > > the trouble of a more complicated access system with keycards etc. It > also > > prevents any issues with people sharing cards or logins. Obviously, > because > > it only records access -- rather than controlling it -- it may not be > that > > effective in limiting the damage in the first place (except maybe as a > > deterrent, e.g. "Smile, you're on camera" signs). People also may object > > more vigorously to having their photo taken than to swiping a card > (whether > > that's logical or not). Finally, it's probably easier to tamper with or > > evade (think, ski mask-wearing microscope bandits armed with cans of > spray > > paint). On the upside, it should not cost you more than ~$50. > > > > -Matt > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Carol J. Bayles <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > > ***** > > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > > ***** > > > > > > I have a commercial program that records Windows logins and logoffs, > > > called Logon Monitor from Greyware. (no commercial interest, but they > > > have been very helpful so I try to plug them). It is pretty cheap and > > > I have it on all my systems. One nice feature is that I can see who > > > is logged on any system at any time, even from home, so I can see if > > > someone came in as scheduled in the evening and if they didn't, the > > > system would be left on all night unless I go in and turn it off > (maybe > > a bad feature, actually). > > > This doesn't help if users can use the scope without logging in. Card > > > swipe door access can be expensive and a pain. Another option is an > > > interlock on the microscope if motorized or on one of the lamps, so > > > you have to login somewhere to turn it on. Not real good for an old > > > style mercury lamp if you have back-to-back users, but otherwise it is > a > > cheap > > > option. Our NBTCenter has a lot of equipment set up like this. You > just > > > need one of those handy electronics nerds. > > > I also use the obfuscation method. > > > Carol > > > > > > <><>><><><>><><><><>><>><><> > > > Carol Bayles > > > Microscopy and Imaging > > > B46 Weill Hall > > > www.biotech.cornell.edu > > > Nanobiotechnolocy Center > > > www.nbtc.cornell.edu > > > Cornell University > > > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > > 607-254-4860 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Confocal Microscopy List > > > [mailto:[hidden email]] > > > On Behalf Of Michelle Aloni > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:50 PM > > > To: [hidden email] > > > Subject: Re: monitoring room access > > > > > > ***** > > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > > ***** > > > > > > We have LSM510 and honor system didn't exactly work for us... So I > > > have created separate Windows account for all my users (I do it only > > > once after training a new user) and had a computer guy set up a back > > > log so everybody signing in Windows gets automatically registered with > > > their name, time in and time out. If someone doesn't have a personal > > > Windows account (set up by the administrator - me) they can't use the > > system. > > > This was started 5 years ago, so now there might be better solutions. > > > > > > Michelle > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Confocal Microscopy List > > > [mailto:[hidden email]] > > > On Behalf Of Patty Conrad > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:18 PM > > > To: [hidden email] > > > Subject: monitoring room access > > > > > > ***** > > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > > > ***** > > > > > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor > > > confocal room access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check > > > confocal usage using sign-in access on the computer. However, the > > > microscope itself can be used without logging on to the computer > > > program and essentially anyone can enter the room 24/7 as long as they > > > can get into the building. We have lately been having trouble with > > > someone abusing the system. I would like to always know for certain > > > who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm > > thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. > > > Does anyone use a keypad system that can be monitored for room > > > entry/usage via my office computer? If so, which system do you use > > > and how do you like it? > > > All suggestions are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthew Nicholas > > Medical Scientist Training Program Student Laboratory of Arne Gennerich > > Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology Albert Einstein College of > > Medicine Forchheimer Building, Room 628 > > 1300 Morris Park Avenue > > Bronx, New York 10461 > > 718.430.3446 > > [hidden email] > > > |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi! Agendo booking software can login in equipment computers with booking credentials...and of course you'll get track from login/logoff and eventually bill accordingly if necessary. Best, Nuno Moreno, PhD Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência http://lnkd.in/6VXcrM On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Patty Conrad wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I'm wondering what the other core facilities are doing to monitor confocal room > access. Currently we leave the doors unlocked and check confocal usage using > sign-in access on the computer. However, the microscope itself can be used > without logging on to the computer program and essentially anyone can enter > the room 24/7 as long as they can get into the building. We have lately been > having trouble with someone abusing the system. I would like to always know > for certain who is in or has been in the confocal room at any one time. I'm > thinking of putting a keypad entry system on the door. Does anyone use a > keypad system that can be monitored for room entry/usage via my office > computer? If so, which system do you use and how do you like it? All > suggestions are appreciated. |
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