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Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray
diagrams for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the
simulators on Microscopy U and places like that?

Thanks!

Martin Wessendorf

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Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
http://www.lambdares.com/oslo

Cheers,
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On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
> Microscopy U and places like that?
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> Thanks!
>
> Martin Wessendorf
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On 7/28/2014 6:16 PM, Peng Xi wrote:
> Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
> http://www.lambdares.com/oslo
Thanks!  --I've seen it but am hoping to find something more
basic--something useful for teaching basic optics to people with weak
physics backgrounds.  Ideally it'd be simple but still flexible enough
to allow students to be creative and combine different optical element
together.

Martin
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
>> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
>> Microscopy U and places like that?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Martin Wessendorf

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Hi Martin,
Zemax has also a demo version, but it's an overkill as well. I have came across Beam Four (Stellar Software), it should be more user friendly, haven't tried personally. Also Wolfram Math has some nice projects, check e.g. http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConstructingASimpleOpticalSystem/
Best, Zdenek Svindrych

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On 7/28/2014 6:16 PM, Peng Xi wrote:
> Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
> http://www.lambdares.com/oslo
Thanks!  --I've seen it but am hoping to find something more
basic--something useful for teaching basic optics to people with weak
physics backgrounds.  Ideally it'd be simple but still flexible enough
to allow students to be creative and combine different optical element
together.

Martin
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf  wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
>> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
>> Microscopy U and places like that?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Martin Wessendorf

--
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Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
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Martin-
There is a program called Zap-It, which I have used with high school students.  It is played like a game, so the students seem to like it.
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Hi Martin,
Zemax has also a demo version, but it's an overkill as well. I have came across Beam Four (Stellar Software), it should be more user friendly, haven't tried personally. Also Wolfram Math has some nice projects, check e.g. http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConstructingASimpleOpticalSystem/
Best, Zdenek Svindrych

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Od: Martin Wessendorf
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Datum: 29. 7. 2014 4:32:44
Předmět: Re: optics simulator

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On 7/28/2014 6:16 PM, Peng Xi wrote:
> Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
> http://www.lambdares.com/oslo
Thanks!  --I've seen it but am hoping to find something more
basic--something useful for teaching basic optics to people with weak
physics backgrounds.  Ideally it'd be simple but still flexible enough
to allow students to be creative and combine different optical element
together.

Martin
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf  wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
>> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
>> Microscopy U and places like that?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Martin Wessendorf

--
Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.                   office: (612) 626-0145
Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
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We use the following laser kit for everything from elementary school demos to graduate courses, and it has proven to be quite the workhorse.  Another thing I did with this kit for middle-high school aged kids was to make an optics obstacle course, which proved highly popular.  You can show everything from how lenses work, to making zoom optics, total internal reflection, optical aberrations, etc.

http://www.arborsci.com/laser-ray-box-and-lenses

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On 7/28/2014 6:16 PM, Peng Xi wrote:
> Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
> http://www.lambdares.com/oslo
Thanks!  --I've seen it but am hoping to find something more
basic--something useful for teaching basic optics to people with weak
physics backgrounds.  Ideally it'd be simple but still flexible enough
to allow students to be creative and combine different optical element
together.

Martin
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
>> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
>> Microscopy U and places like that?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Martin Wessendorf

--
Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.                   office: (612) 626-0145
Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE    Dept Fax: (612) 626-5009
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Carol,

Do you have the URL for this program?
Thanks.

Phil

On 07/29/2014 10:29 , Carol Heckman wrote:

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> Martin-
> There is a program called Zap-It, which I have used with high school students.  It is played like a game, so the students seem to like it.
> Carol Heckman
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> Hi Martin,
> Zemax has also a demo version, but it's an overkill as well. I have came across Beam Four (Stellar Software), it should be more user friendly, haven't tried personally. Also Wolfram Math has some nice projects, check e.g. http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConstructingASimpleOpticalSystem/
> Best, Zdenek Svindrych
>
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> Datum: 29. 7. 2014 4:32:44
> Předmět: Re: optics simulator
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> On 7/28/2014 6:16 PM, Peng Xi wrote:
>> Have you tried OSLO? They have an EDU free version.
>> http://www.lambdares.com/oslo
> Thanks!  --I've seen it but am hoping to find something more
> basic--something useful for teaching basic optics to people with weak
> physics backgrounds.  Ideally it'd be simple but still flexible enough
> to allow students to be creative and combine different optical element
> together.
>
> Martin
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf  wrote:
>>> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
>>> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
>>> Microscopy U and places like that?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Martin Wessendorf
>
> --
> Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.                   office: (612) 626-0145
> Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
> University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
> 6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE    Dept Fax: (612) 626-5009
> Minneapolis, MN  55455                    e-mail: [hidden email]
>

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On 7/29/2014 12:32 AM, Zdenek Svindrych wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> Zemax has also a demo version, but it's an overkill as well. I have came across Beam Four (Stellar Software), it should be more user friendly, haven't tried personally. Also Wolfram Math has some nice projects, check e.g. http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConstructingASimpleOpticalSystem/
> Best, Zdenek Svindrych

Beam Four is still a bit more complicated than what I'm hoping for, but
it's more intuitive and may be useful.  Thanks!

I'm surprised that apparently no one has made a simple graphically
driven program (--Beam Four relies on entering numerical data) that can
model ray-tracing with 2 or 3 optical elements.  Something for teaching
optics, not designing optics.

Martin

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Hi,
I found something really simple, just three lenses, two fixed sources, paraxial approximation only. But it might do the job for you:
http://www.ee.buffalo.edu/faculty/cartwright/flash/ray/MultiLensSys/
I'm sure there's lots of similar stuff somewhere, just google it...
Best,
zdenek


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On 7/29/2014 12:32 AM, Zdenek Svindrych wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> Zemax has also a demo version, but it's an overkill as well. I have came across Beam Four (Stellar Software), it should be more user friendly, haven't tried personally. Also Wolfram Math has some nice projects, check e.g. http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConstructingASimpleOpticalSystem/
> Best, Zdenek Svindrych

Beam Four is still a bit more complicated than what I'm hoping for, but
it's more intuitive and may be useful.  Thanks!

I'm surprised that apparently no one has made a simple graphically
driven program (--Beam Four relies on entering numerical data) that can
model ray-tracing with 2 or 3 optical elements.  Something for teaching
optics, not designing optics.

Martin

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Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
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Thanks to all those who responded, both on-list and off-list. -- For
anyone interested in this subject, there's a very intuitive, reasonably
powerful open-source Java program available called OpticalRayTracer:
http://arachnoid.com/OpticalRayTracer/

It doesn't simulate mirrors--only lenses--but it has some nice
features.  For instance, under "help", they describe a Dispersion
Experiment that sets up a simulation of an achromat lens--VERY cool.  
Looks as if the program could be a good resource for teaching.

Martin

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Martin Wessendorf wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a simple freeware program that generates ray diagrams
> for lenses and mirrors?  Something more flexible than the simulators on
> Microscopy U and places like that?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Martin Wessendorf

--
Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D.                   office: (612) 626-0145
Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience                 lab: (612) 624-2991
University of Minnesota             Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118
6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE    Dept Fax: (612) 626-5009
Minneapolis, MN  55455                    e-mail: [hidden email]