Iftach Nachman |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear all, I am planning to buy a 2P system on which I would like to live image multiple embryoid bodies (i.e. multiple XY) under incubated conditions. The natural choice would be an inverted system, but I am worried about the compromise in penetration using water immersion/dry objectives vs. one of the 2P dedicated water dipping objectives. The latter gave me 150-200um penetration depth (on a Prairie system), but it's hard to find an inverted system around for comparison. Will depth loss be significant? Any insights will be welcome! Iftach Iftach Nachman, PhD Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology George S. Wise Faculty of Life Sciences Sherman building, room 506 Tel Aviv University Tel Aviv 69978 ISRAEL Tel: +972-3-640-5900 Fax: +972-3-640-9442 |
Pascal Weber |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Can you be more specific on samples you put under the lens. And what are the condtions you must respectively. ? If you must have a thermostatic chamber, CO2, and so on ... You can contact me on my Email [hidden email] I could send you some pictures of different systems. Regards |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** These are clusters of differentiating mouse embryonic stem cells (called embryoid bodies) ranging in size between 100 - 600 um. They need 37C and 5% CO2 incubation. Thanks! Iftach |
Cameron Nowell |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Iftach, We have both types of 2P systems here (an inverted and an upright - both FV1000 Olympus systems). Our inverted has the standard range of 10, 20 and 40 air objectives and 60 water and oil objectives - the system is tuned to optimally work with the 60x water. The upright has Olympus' new 25x dipping objective on it. You will be limited on the inverted to the working distance of your objective usually before you hit any other limits, our 60 water has a WD of .23mm (penetration, signal return etc). While the system is tuned and should work only with the 60x i have had pretty good success with the 40 and 20x objectives as well (the 10x doesn't work at all) and they give better depth due to the working distance more than anything else. Obviously the dipping objective gets much better penetration but you are then limited in what you can do in culture dishes etc. There are ways of getting dipping objectives working on inverted (i will leave it to Steve Cody to bring up the self sucking condom technique). Cheers Cam Cameron J. Nowell Microscopy Manager Centre for Advanced Microscopy Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research Melbourne - Parkville Branch PO Box 2008 Royal Melbourne Hospital Victoria, 3050 AUSTRALIA Office: +61 3 9341 3155 Mobile: +61422882700 Fax: +61 3 9341 3104 Facility Website -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Iftach Nachman Sent: Friday, 21 October 2011 5:30 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: penetration in 2P inverted vs. upright systems ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** These are clusters of differentiating mouse embryonic stem cells (called embryoid bodies) ranging in size between 100 - 600 um. They need 37C and 5% CO2 incubation. Thanks! Iftach This communication is intended only for the named recipient and may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged or subject to copyright; the Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research Ltd does not waive any rights if you have received this communication in error. The views expressed in this communication are those of the sender and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research Ltd. |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi, every body, Right or inverted microscope is the same (most of the time, not available if worked on live animals) The most important thing is to know if your samples can be dumped or not. (for explant or cell in petri dishes) For environmental conditions (temperature and CO2) is very easy to follow. (I've already made the arrangements) I, for those who wish, show them pictures. |
Scott, Mark |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Iftach, I have used both inverted and upright systems with an MP laser, both institutes I have used it in had the MP laser shared between the two microscopes, and we have not seen much difference in the laser performance based purely on the style of microscope. In general your limitations, as people have mentioned, won't be related to the laser but to the microscope itself (working distances etc) so providing you can get around that you should see similar performances to what you would get on an upright system. Thanks Mark Scott FILM - Facility for Imaging by Light Microscopy Senior Research Technician Sir Alexander Fleming Building, desk 408 Imperial College London / South Kensington Exhibition Road London SW7 2AZ UK Tel: ++44(0)20-759-49793 E-mail: [hidden email] Website: http://imperial.ac.uk/imagingfacility |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Ben! You might want to check your settings on the confocal list server. Your put of office is replying to all and to every email. Hope you have a great trip home! Terri : ) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:18 PM, "Ben Abrams" <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > This is an automated reply. > > I will be out of the office/ attending a course and will have uncertain email access Monday October 10 through Friday October 21. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://confocal-microscopy-list.588098.n2.nabble.com/penetration-in-2P-inverted-vs-upright-systems-tp6914107p6914258.html > Sent from the Confocal Microscopy List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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