save the electron!

[Allison Paradise]

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Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories -
from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths
permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight
because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories waste
a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce energy
use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop
financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of
equipment you use in your lab.

Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a lab
is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win a
MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.

For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save energy
in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org

Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at [hidden email]

Thank you!!

Thank you for helping us save the electron!

[Andreas Bruckbauer]

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Hi Allison,
Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every single electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise our lab would be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the time! Just that pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of chemical, nuclear, solar or other energy which is then converted to useless heat at our end and we probably have to pump more electrons around to transport this heat to somwhere outside the building (switch on the air conditioning).

Best wishes

Andreas

-----Original Message-----
From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: save the electron!

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Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories -
from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths
permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight
because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories waste
a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce energy
use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop
financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of
equipment you use in your lab.

Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a lab
is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win a
MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.

For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save energy
in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org

Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at [hidden email]

Thank you!!

Thank you for helping us save the electron!

[Peter Gabriel Pitrone]

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Hello Allison,

Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless the
location of your lab is in the USA.

Best Regards,
Pete

Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS
Light Sheet Fluorescence Microscopist and Imaging Specialist
for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research group at the
Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics
Pfotenhauerstraße 108
01307 Dresden, Saxony
Germany


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http://www.openspim.org

"I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their names
are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard Kipling -
The Elephant's Child

On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
<|> *****
<|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
posting.
<|> *****
<|>
<|> Hi Allison,
<|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every single
<|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise our lab
would
<|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the time! Just that
<|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of chemical, nuclear,
<|> solar or other energy which is then converted to useless heat at our end
<|> and we probably have to pump more electrons around to transport this
heat
<|> to somwhere outside the building (switch on the air conditioning).
<|>
<|> Best wishes
<|>
<|> Andreas
<|>
<|> -----Original Message-----
<|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]>
<|> Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43
<|> To: "[hidden email]"
<[hidden email]>
<|> Subject: save the electron!
<|>
<|> *****
<|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
posting.
<|> *****
<|>
<|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories
<|> -
<|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths
<|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight
<|> because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories
<|> waste
<|> a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce
<|> energy
<|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
<|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop
<|> financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of
<|> equipment you use in your lab.
<|>
<|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a
<|> lab
<|> is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win
<|> a
<|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
<|> Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.
<|>
<|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save
<|> energy
<|> in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org
<|>
<|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at
<|> [hidden email]
<|>
<|> Thank you!!
<|>
<|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
<|>

[Guy Cox-2]

This post did not go to Allison!

I was a bit surprised by her comment about labs leaving mercury lamps on overnight.  Since HBO bulbs last 100 - 200 hours depending on type, I think you'd be more worried about the cost of lamps that the electricity bill!  

  Guy

Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
School of Medical Sciences

Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006


-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Peter Gabriel Pitrone
Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2015 8:17 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: save the electron!

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Hello Allison,

Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless the location of your lab is in the USA.

Best Regards,
Pete

Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
01307 Dresden, Saxony
Germany


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On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
<|> *****
<|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
<|> *****
<|>
<|> Hi Allison,
<|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the building (switch on the air conditioning).
<|>
<|> Best wishes
<|>
<|> Andreas
<|>
<|> -----Original Message-----
<|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
<[hidden email]>
<|> Subject: save the electron!
<|>
<|> *****
<|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
<|> *****
<|>
<|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
<|>
<|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.
<|>
<|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
<|>
<|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
<|>

[Peter Gabriel Pitrone]

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She was CC:ed Guy, just you are now... So it did go to her! ;-)

Pete

On Thu, January 8, 2015 10:45, Guy Cox wrote:
<|> This post did not go to Allison!
<|>
<|> I was a bit surprised by her comment about labs leaving mercury lamps on
<|> overnight.  Since HBO bulbs last 100 - 200 hours depending on type, I
<|> think you'd be more worried about the cost of lamps that the electricity
<|> bill!
<|>
<|>   Guy
<|>
<|> Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
<|> School of Medical Sciences
<|>
<|> Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
<|> Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
<|>
<|>
<|> -----Original Message-----
<|> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]
<|> On Behalf Of Peter Gabriel Pitrone
<|> Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2015 8:17 PM
<|> To: [hidden email]
<|> Subject: Re: save the electron!
<|>
<|> *****
<|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
<|> posting.
<|> *****
<|>
<|> Hello Allison,
<|>
<|> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless the
<|> location of your lab is in the USA.
<|>
<|> Best Regards,
<|> Pete
<|>
<|> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
<|> Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
<|> group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics
<|> Pfotenhauerstraße 108
<|> 01307 Dresden, Saxony
<|> Germany
<|>
<|>
<|> http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
<|> http://www.openspim.org
<|>
<|> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their names
<|> are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard Kipling -
<|> The Elephant's Child
<|>
<|> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
<|> <|> *****
<|> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
<|> posting.
<|> <|> *****
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Hi Allison,
<|> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
<|> single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
<|> our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
<|> time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
<|> chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted to
<|> useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more electrons
<|> around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the building
<|> (switch on the air conditioning).
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Best wishes
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Andreas
<|> <|>
<|> <|> -----Original Message-----
<|> <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
<|> ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43 <|> To:
<|> "[hidden email]"
<|> <[hidden email]>
<|> <|> Subject: save the electron!
<|> <|>
<|> <|> *****
<|> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
<|> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
<|> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
<|> posting.
<|> <|> *****
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
<|> laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case'
<|> and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that
<|> are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed to be left on
for 30
<|> minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My
<|> Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy <|> use in labs, and put
those
<|> energy savings back into the pockets of <|> researchers in the form of
<|> energy rebates.  But before we can develop <|> financial incentives, we
<|> need to know more information about the type of <|> equipment you use in
<|> your lab.
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in
<|> a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants will be
<|> entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:
<|> www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link with your
<|> friends and colleagues.
<|> <|>
<|> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save
<|> <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
www.mygreenlab.org
<|> <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at <|>
<|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
<|> <|>
<|> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
<|> <|>
<|>

[Allison Paradise]

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Good morning everyone,
Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already.  A copy of the
study will be available in the spring, and I will share the link with the group
when it is online.

I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated.  In response to
some of the comments/questions:

1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop inconveniencing
electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do appreciate those of
you who have pointed this error out to me.  You are correct - I should not have
sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line, and for this I apologize.
 Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories consume
nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space.  Laboratories account for
nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus, while only occupying
25% of the total space.  On average, one dual compressor -80 freezer consumes 20
kWh/day, which is as much as an average house uses.  One fume hood can consume
over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied
the amount of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's
not trivial, especially when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into
account.
So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good thing,
because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save energy.  For
example, a utility company in California fully funded the replacement of a gas
laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy savings.  We'd like to be
able to do this for many different pieces of equipment, and that is why we are
asking for your help with this study.

2.  In response to the comment about the Hg bulb:  based on the plug load alone,
metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of energy in a lab.
 However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use our metal
halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a significant
impact on the heating/cooling in the building.  The extent of this impact will
depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the building, and the number
of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our models show that removing
these light sources can reduce HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.

3.  Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we have limited
the survey to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel like it was fair
to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to this project when they
themselves would likely not benefit from it.  

I hope this helps clarify some things.  As always, any questions and all
comments are welcome.  And please, if you haven't already done so, complete the
survey at:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL

Have a great day!
Best,
Allison

allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 |
[hidden email]

> On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Hello Allison,
>
> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless the
> location of your lab is in the USA.
>
> Best Regards,
> Pete
>
> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS
> Light Sheet Fluorescence Microscopist and Imaging Specialist
> for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research group at the
> Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics
> Pfotenhauerstraße 108
> 01307 Dresden, Saxony
> Germany
>
>
> http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
> http://www.openspim.org
>
> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their names
> are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard Kipling -
> The Elephant's Child
>
> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
> <|> *****
> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
> posting.
> <|> *****
> <|>
> <|> Hi Allison,
> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every single
> <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise our lab
> would
> <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the time! Just that
> <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of chemical, nuclear,
> <|> solar or other energy which is then converted to useless heat at our end
> <|> and we probably have to pump more electrons around to transport this
> heat
> <|> to somwhere outside the building (switch on the air conditioning).
> <|>
> <|> Best wishes
> <|>
> <|> Andreas
> <|>
> <|> -----Original Message-----
> <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]>
> <|> Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43
> <|> To: "[hidden email]"
> <[hidden email]>
> <|> Subject: save the electron!
> <|>
> <|> *****
> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
> posting.
> <|> *****
> <|>
> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories
> <|> -
> <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths
> <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight
> <|> because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories
> <|> waste
> <|> a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce
> <|> energy
> <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
> <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop
> <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of
> <|> equipment you use in your lab.
> <|>
> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a
> <|> lab
> <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win
> <|> a
> <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
> <|> Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.
> <|>
> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save
> <|> energy
> <|> in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org
> <|>
> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at
> <|> [hidden email]
> <|>
> <|> Thank you!!
> <|>
> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
> <|>

[Chris Tully-2]

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One lab that I worked with many years ago came up with an elegant solution to Hg and metal halide bulbs being left on. After having to replace two or three bulbs that burned out early because someone left them on over the weekend the PI went out and bought mechanical light timers and set them up to kill the power to the Hg bulb's igniter/PS at 6:00pm this insured that if the last user of the day left the lamp on it would go off automatically. He left off the tabs that would have turned the power back on so you would have to manually turn power on each day. This move dramatically extended the life of their bulbs. I imagine that it also reduced their power usage, but that was not something being considered at the time.

Chris Tully, M.S.
Principal Consultant, ImageIncyte, LLC
t 240.475.9753 f 419.831.0527 | [hidden email]

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos.

> On Jan 9, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Paradise Allison <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Good morning everyone,
> Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already.  A copy of the
> study will be available in the spring, and I will share the link with the group
> when it is online.
>
> I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated.  In response to
> some of the comments/questions:
>
> 1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop inconveniencing
> electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do appreciate those of
> you who have pointed this error out to me.  You are correct - I should not have
> sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line, and for this I apologize.
> Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories consume
> nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space.  Laboratories account for
> nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus, while only occupying
> 25% of the total space.  On average, one dual compressor -80 freezer consumes 20
> kWh/day, which is as much as an average house uses.  One fume hood can consume
> over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied
> the amount of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's
> not trivial, especially when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into
> account.
> So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good thing,
> because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save energy.  For
> example, a utility company in California fully funded the replacement of a gas
> laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy savings.  We'd like to be
> able to do this for many different pieces of equipment, and that is why we are
> asking for your help with this study.
>
> 2.  In response to the comment about the Hg bulb:  based on the plug load alone,
> metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of energy in a lab.
> However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use our metal
> halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a significant
> impact on the heating/cooling in the building.  The extent of this impact will
> depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the building, and the number
> of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our models show that removing
> these light sources can reduce HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>
> 3.  Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we have limited
> the survey to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel like it was fair
> to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to this project when they
> themselves would likely not benefit from it.  
>
> I hope this helps clarify some things.  As always, any questions and all
> comments are welcome.  And please, if you haven't already done so, complete the
> survey at:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>
> Have a great day!
> Best,
> Allison
>
> allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 |
> [hidden email]
>
>> On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>> *****
>>
>> Hello Allison,
>>
>> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless the
>> location of your lab is in the USA.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Pete
>>
>> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS
>> Light Sheet Fluorescence Microscopist and Imaging Specialist
>> for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research group at the
>> Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics
>> Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>> 01307 Dresden, Saxony
>> Germany
>>
>>
>> http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>> http://www.openspim.org
>>
>> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their names
>> are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard Kipling -
>> The Elephant's Child
>>
>> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>> <|> *****
>> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>> posting.
>> <|> *****
>> <|>
>> <|> Hi Allison,
>> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every single
>> <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise our lab
>> would
>> <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the time! Just that
>> <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of chemical, nuclear,
>> <|> solar or other energy which is then converted to useless heat at our end
>> <|> and we probably have to pump more electrons around to transport this
>> heat
>> <|> to somwhere outside the building (switch on the air conditioning).
>> <|>
>> <|> Best wishes
>> <|>
>> <|> Andreas
>> <|>
>> <|> -----Original Message-----
>> <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]>
>> <|> Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43
>> <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>> <[hidden email]>
>> <|> Subject: save the electron!
>> <|>
>> <|> *****
>> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>> posting.
>> <|> *****
>> <|>
>> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in laboratories
>> <|> -
>> <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in case' and water baths
>> <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to microscopes that are left on overnight
>> <|> because the Hg bulb needed to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories
>> <|> waste
>> <|> a lot of energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce
>> <|> energy
>> <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>> <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can develop
>> <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information about the type of
>> <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>> <|>
>> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works in a
>> <|> lab
>> <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants will be entered to win
>> <|> a
>> <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>> <|> Feel free to share this link with your friends and colleagues.
>> <|>
>> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can save
>> <|> energy
>> <|> in your lab, please visit our website:  www.mygreenlab.org
>> <|>
>> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions at
>> <|> [hidden email]
>> <|>
>> <|> Thank you!!
>> <|>
>> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>> <|>

[Guy Cox-2]

Allison, List,

        I shudder to think about how much power an NMR machine uses.  Electron microscopes are pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to turn them off overnight.  At least things improved when they changed from valves (vacuum tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot are doing pretty well.  Mercury lamps are well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.  Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or DPSS.  Digital cameras, at least uncooled ones, probably use much less power overall than film.  And I remember when we got our first ink-jet printer - a monster that had to be left on 24/7.  Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving low-power modes they have today.  So we aren't too bad.

                                Guy

Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
School of Medical Sciences

Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006


-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paradise Allison
Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: save the electron!

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Good morning everyone,
Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already.  A copy of the study will be available in the spring, and I will share the link with the group when it is online.

I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated.  In response to some of the comments/questions:

1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop inconveniencing electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do appreciate those of you who have pointed this error out to me.  You are correct - I should not have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line, and for this I apologize.
 Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories consume nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space.  Laboratories account for nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus, while only occupying 25% of the total space.  On average, one dual compressor -80 freezer consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an average house uses.  One fume hood can consume over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's not trivial, especially when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into account.
So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good thing, because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save energy.  For example, a utility company in California fully funded the replacement of a gas laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy savings.  We'd like to be able to do this for many different pieces of equipment, and that is why we are asking for your help with this study.

2.  In response to the comment about the Hg bulb:  based on the plug load alone, metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of energy in a lab.
 However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use our metal halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a significant impact on the heating/cooling in the building.  The extent of this impact will depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the building, and the number of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our models show that removing these light sources can reduce HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.

3.  Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we have limited the survey to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to this project when they themselves would likely not benefit from it.  

I hope this helps clarify some things.  As always, any questions and all comments are welcome.  And please, if you haven't already done so, complete the survey at:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL

Have a great day!
Best,
Allison

allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 | [hidden email]

> On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
> <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Hello Allison,
>
> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
> the location of your lab is in the USA.
>
> Best Regards,
> Pete
>
> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
> Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
> group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
> Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
> 01307 Dresden, Saxony
> Germany
>
>
> http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
> http://www.openspim.org
>
> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
> names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
> Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>
> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
> <|> *****
> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
> posting.
> <|> *****
> <|>
> <|> Hi Allison,
> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
> single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
> our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
> time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
> chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
> to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
> electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
> building (switch on the air conditioning).
> <|>
> <|> Best wishes
> <|>
> <|> Andreas
> <|>
> <|> -----Original Message-----
> <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
> ‎07/‎01/‎2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
> <[hidden email]>
> <|> Subject: save the electron!
> <|>
> <|> *****
> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
> posting.
> <|> *****
> <|>
> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
> laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
> case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
> microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
> to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
> energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
> <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
> <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
> develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
> about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
> <|>
> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
> in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
> will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
> here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
> with your friends and colleagues.
> <|>
> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
> save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:  
> www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
> or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
> <|>
> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
> <|>

[James Pawley]

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Dear Allison,

a)  Good for for you to bring up this all
important topic (and I mean all important!).

b) However, looking at this problem from a
slightly broader perspective, a Hg source runs at
100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over about 5
weeks, about the same as used by our automobile
in 30 minutes, so maybe we should also think
about driving a bike to work or living closer to
the lab.

If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is even
worse, because compared to even a coal-fired
power plant, internal combustion engines are very
inefficient at turning heat into what we want,
especially in city driving (40% vs. about 12%).
And at least here in freezing Indiana, that 100 W
helps keep us warm for half the year.

Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be
for every $2 US spent, 1kg of CO2 is burned
somewhere.*

"A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)

Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern
Hemisphere, where I encourage the use of a
parasol.)

Jim Pawley

* Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this economic
activity occurs not so much because of human will
but because energy is expended, somewhere.
Essentially all of this energy is related to CO2
production.  Global CO2 is 36G tons or 36T kg.

>Allison, List,
>
> I shudder to think about how much power
>an NMR machine uses.  Electron microscopes are
>pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to
>turn them off overnight.  At least things
>improved when they changed from valves (vacuum
>tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot are
>doing pretty well.  Mercury lamps are well-nigh
>dead and LEDs use much less power.  Likewise gas
>lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or
>DPSS.  Digital cameras, at least uncooled ones,
>probably use much less power overall than film.
>And I remember when we got our first ink-jet
>printer - a monster that had to be left on 24/7.
>Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving
>low-power modes they have today.  So we aren't
>too bad.
>
> Guy
>
>Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>School of Medical Sciences
>
>Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Confocal Microscopy List
>[mailto:[hidden email]] On
>Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: save the electron!
>
>*****
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>
>Good morning everyone,
>Thanks so much to all of you have completed the
>survey already.  A copy of the study will be
>available in the spring, and I will share the
>link with the group when it is online.
>
>I really appreciate the conversation this post
>has generated.  In response to some of the
>comments/questions:
>
>1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted;
>'please stop inconveniencing electrons' just
>didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do
>appreciate those of you who have pointed this
>error out to me.  You are correct - I should not
>have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag
>line, and for this I apologize.
>  Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that
>on average laboratories consume nearly 5x as
>much energy as a typical office space.
>Laboratories account for nearly 60% of all
>energy used on a typical academic campus, while
>only occupying 25% of the total space.  On
>average, one dual compressor -80 freezer
>consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an
>average house uses.  One fume hood can consume
>over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my
>knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount
>of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be
>willing to bet it's not trivial, especially when
>the effects on the HVAC system are taken into
>account.
>So labs have the attention of the utility
>companies. And that's a good thing, because they
>are willing to provide financial incentives to
>save energy.  For example, a utility company in
>California fully funded the replacement of a gas
>laser with a solid state laser simply based on
>energy savings.  We'd like to be able to do this
>for many different pieces of equipment, and that
>is why we are asking for your help with this
>study.
>
>2.  In response to the comment about the Hg
>bulb:  based on the plug load alone, metal
>halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest
>consumers of energy in a lab.
>  However they do radiate a substantial amount of
>heat (I used to use our metal halide light
>source to warm my hands), and this heat can have
>a significant impact on the heating/cooling in
>the building.  The extent of this impact will
>depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC
>in the building, and the number of mercury or
>metal halide light sources, but our models show
>that removing these light sources can reduce
>HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>
>3.  Because we can really only have an impact on
>labs in the US we have limited the survey to
>people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel
>like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US
>to donate their time to this project when they
>themselves would likely not benefit from it.
>
>I hope this helps clarify some things.  As
>always, any questions and all comments are
>welcome.  And please, if you haven't already
>done so, complete the survey at:
>www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>
>Have a great day!
>Best,
>Allison
>
>allison paradise | executive director | my green
>lab | 860.680.3283 | [hidden email]
>
>>  On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>  <[hidden email]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>  *****
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>>
>>  Hello Allison,
>>
>>  Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>  the location of your lab is in the USA.
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>>  Pete
>>
>>  Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
>>  Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
>>  group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
>>  Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>>  01307 Dresden, Saxony
>>  Germany
>>
>>
>>  http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>>  http://www.openspim.org
>>
>>  "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>  names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>  Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>
>>  On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>  posting.
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Hi Allison,
>>  <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>  single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>  our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>  time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>  chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>  to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>  electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>  building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Best wishes
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Andreas
>>  <|>
>>  <|> -----Original Message-----
>>  <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
>>  â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>>  <[hidden email]>
>>  <|> Subject: save the electron!
>>  <|>
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>  posting.
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>  laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>  case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>  microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>  to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>  energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>  <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>  > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
>>  develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>  about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
>>  in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>  will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
>>  here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
>>  with your friends and colleagues.
>>  <|>
>>  <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>  save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>  www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>  or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>  <|>

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                                                                               Guy

Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
School of Medical Sciences

Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006


-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of James Pawley
Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2015 12:40 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: save the electron!

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Dear Allison,

a)  Good for for you to bring up this all important topic (and I mean all important!).

b) However, looking at this problem from a slightly broader perspective, a Hg source runs at 100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over about 5 weeks, about the same as used by our automobile in 30 minutes, so maybe we should also think about driving a bike to work or living closer to the lab.

If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is even worse, because compared to even a coal-fired power plant, internal combustion engines are very inefficient at turning heat into what we want, especially in city driving (40% vs. about 12%).
And at least here in freezing Indiana, that 100 W helps keep us warm for half the year.

Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be for every $2 US spent, 1kg of CO2 is burned
somewhere.*

"A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)

Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern Hemisphere, where I encourage the use of a
parasol.)

Jim Pawley

* Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this economic activity occurs not so much because of human will but because energy is expended, somewhere.
Essentially all of this energy is related to CO2 production.  Global CO2 is 36G tons or 36T kg.

>Allison, List,
>
> I shudder to think about how much power an NMR machine uses.  Electron
>microscopes are pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to turn
>them off overnight.  At least things improved when they changed from
>valves (vacuum
>tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot are doing pretty well.  
>Mercury lamps are well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.  
>Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or DPSS.  
>Digital cameras, at least uncooled ones, probably use much less power
>overall than film.
>And I remember when we got our first ink-jet printer - a monster that
>had to be left on 24/7.
>Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving low-power modes they
>have today.  So we aren't too bad.
>
> Guy
>
>Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>School of Medical Sciences
>
>Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Confocal Microscopy List
>[mailto:[hidden email]] On
>Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: save the electron!
>
>*****
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>*****
>
>Good morning everyone,
>Thanks so much to all of you have completed the
>survey already.  A copy of the study will be
>available in the spring, and I will share the
>link with the group when it is online.
>
>I really appreciate the conversation this post
>has generated.  In response to some of the
>comments/questions:
>
>1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted;
>'please stop inconveniencing electrons' just
>didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do
>appreciate those of you who have pointed this
>error out to me.  You are correct - I should not
>have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag
>line, and for this I apologize.
>  Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that
>on average laboratories consume nearly 5x as
>much energy as a typical office space.
>Laboratories account for nearly 60% of all
>energy used on a typical academic campus, while
>only occupying 25% of the total space.  On
>average, one dual compressor -80 freezer
>consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an
>average house uses.  One fume hood can consume
>over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my
>knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount
>of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be
>willing to bet it's not trivial, especially when
>the effects on the HVAC system are taken into
>account.
>So labs have the attention of the utility
>companies. And that's a good thing, because they
>are willing to provide financial incentives to
>save energy.  For example, a utility company in
>California fully funded the replacement of a gas
>laser with a solid state laser simply based on
>energy savings.  We'd like to be able to do this
>for many different pieces of equipment, and that
>is why we are asking for your help with this
>study.
>
>2.  In response to the comment about the Hg
>bulb:  based on the plug load alone, metal
>halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest
>consumers of energy in a lab.
>  However they do radiate a substantial amount of
>heat (I used to use our metal halide light
>source to warm my hands), and this heat can have
>a significant impact on the heating/cooling in
>the building.  The extent of this impact will
>depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC
>in the building, and the number of mercury or
>metal halide light sources, but our models show
>that removing these light sources can reduce
>HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>
>3.  Because we can really only have an impact on
>labs in the US we have limited the survey to
>people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel
>like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US
>to donate their time to this project when they
>themselves would likely not benefit from it.
>
>I hope this helps clarify some things.  As
>always, any questions and all comments are
>welcome.  And please, if you haven't already
>done so, complete the survey at:
>www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>
>Have a great day!
>Best,
>Allison
>
>allison paradise | executive director | my green
>lab | 860.680.3283 | [hidden email]
>
>>  On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>  <[hidden email]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>  *****
>>  To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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>>
>>  Hello Allison,
>>
>>  Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>  the location of your lab is in the USA.
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>>  Pete
>>
>>  Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
>>  Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
>>  group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
>>  Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>>  01307 Dresden, Saxony
>>  Germany
>>
>>
>>  http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>>  http://www.openspim.org
>>
>>  "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>  names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>  Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>
>>  On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>  posting.
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Hi Allison,
>>  <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>  single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>  our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>  time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>  chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>  to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>  electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>  building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Best wishes
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Andreas
>>  <|>
>>  <|> -----Original Message-----
>>  <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
>>  â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>>  <[hidden email]>
>>  <|> Subject: save the electron!
>>  <|>
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>  posting.
>>  <|> *****
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>  laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>  case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>  microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>  to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>  energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>  <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>  > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
>>  develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>  about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
>>  in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>  will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
>>  here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
>>  with your friends and colleagues.
>>  <|>
>>  <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>  save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>  www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>  or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
>>  <|>
>>  <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>  <|>

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Jim, you need a more modern engine/car and your efficiency will double to 25-30%...

HTH

Mark


On 10/01/2015, at 1:40 pm, James Pawley <[hidden email]> wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
> *****
>
> Dear Allison,
>
> a)  Good for for you to bring up this all important topic (and I mean all important!).
>
> b) However, looking at this problem from a slightly broader perspective, a Hg source runs at 100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over about 5 weeks, about the same as used by our automobile in 30 minutes, so maybe we should also think about driving a bike to work or living closer to the lab.
>
> If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is even worse, because compared to even a coal-fired power plant, internal combustion engines are very inefficient at turning heat into what we want, especially in city driving (40% vs. about 12%). And at least here in freezing Indiana, that 100 W helps keep us warm for half the year.
>
> Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be for every $2 US spent, 1kg of CO2 is burned somewhere.*
>
> "A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)
>
> Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern Hemisphere, where I encourage the use of a parasol.)
>
> Jim Pawley
>
> * Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this economic activity occurs not so much because of human will but because energy is expended, somewhere. Essentially all of this energy is related to CO2 production.  Global CO2 is 36G tons or 36T kg.
>
>> Allison, List,
>>
>> I shudder to think about how much power an NMR machine uses.  Electron microscopes are pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to turn them off overnight.  At least things improved when they changed from valves (vacuum tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot are doing pretty well.  Mercury lamps are well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.  Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or DPSS.  Digital cameras, at least uncooled ones, probably use much less power overall than film. And I remember when we got our first ink-jet printer - a monster that had to be left on 24/7. Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving low-power modes they have today.  So we aren't too bad.
>>
>> Guy
>>
>> Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>> School of Medical Sciences
>>
>> Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>> Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>> Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: save the electron!
>>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>> *****
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>> Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already.  A copy of the study will be available in the spring, and I will share the link with the group when it is online.
>>
>> I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated.  In response to some of the comments/questions:
>>
>> 1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop inconveniencing electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do appreciate those of you who have pointed this error out to me.  You are correct - I should not have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line, and for this I apologize.
>> Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories consume nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space. Laboratories account for nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus, while only occupying 25% of the total space.  On average, one dual compressor -80 freezer consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an average house uses.  One fume hood can consume over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's not trivial, especially when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into account.
>> So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good thing, because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save energy.  For example, a utility company in California fully funded the replacement of a gas laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy savings.  We'd like to be able to do this for many different pieces of equipment, and that is why we are asking for your help with this study.
>>
>> 2.  In response to the comment about the Hg bulb:  based on the plug load alone, metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of energy in a lab.
>> However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use our metal halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a significant impact on the heating/cooling in the building.  The extent of this impact will depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the building, and the number of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our models show that removing these light sources can reduce HVAC-related energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>>
>> 3.  Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we have limited the survey to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to this project when they themselves would likely not benefit from it.
>>
>> I hope this helps clarify some things.  As always, any questions and all comments are welcome.  And please, if you haven't already done so, complete the survey at: www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>>
>> Have a great day!
>> Best,
>> Allison
>>
>> allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 | [hidden email]
>>
>>> On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hello Allison,
>>>
>>> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>> the location of your lab is in the USA.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
>>> Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
>>> group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
>>> Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>>> 01307 Dresden, Saxony
>>> Germany
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>>> http://www.openspim.org
>>>
>>> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>> names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>> Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>>
>>> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>>> <|> *****
>>> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>> posting.
>>> <|> *****
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Hi Allison,
>>> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>> single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>> our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>> time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>> chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>> to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>> electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>> building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Best wishes
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Andreas
>>> <|>
>>> <|> -----Original Message-----
>>> <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
>>> â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> <|> Subject: save the electron!
>>> <|>
>>> <|> *****
>>> <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>> <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>> posting.
>>> <|> *****
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>> laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>> case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>> microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>> to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>> energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>> <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>> > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
>>> develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>> about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
>>> in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>> will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
>>> here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
>>> with your friends and colleagues.
>>> <|>
>>> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>> save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>> www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>> or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
>>> <|>
>>> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>> <|>
>
>
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> Phone [phone], email <[hidden email]>
> NEW! NEW! AND DIFFERENT Cell (when I remember to turn it on!) 1-604-989-6146

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School of Physiology &  Pharmacology
Medical Sciences Building
University of Bristol
Bristol
BS8 1TD UK

[hidden email]

[James Pawley]

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>Jim, you need a more modern engine/car and your
>efficiency will double to 25-30%...
>
>HTH
>
>Mark

Well, we would all like a new car and those few
new cars with direct fuel injection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection 
claim to do even better than 30%, at least at
some speeds

But for most of the cars now on the road (and
affordable to the underpaid, microscopist geeks
likely to read this list), you only get close to
25% at very specific RPM/load levels, usually
near 75% of maximum power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency#Gasoline_.28petrol.29_engines

When it is idling waiting for a light, it is
zero. Hence my use of the term "city driving"
which is what many of us do on the way to work.
Using most cars at 75% of maximum power will soon
result in speeding ticket.

Even 12% is optimistic for many cars that are
actually currently on the road (i.e., not a new
BMW).

When considering biking, what about adding in the
saving of all the time and energy use related to
visiting exercise spas that could be saved by a
sporty bike ride or the gas spent looking for
parking.

http://blog.rmi.org/blog_2014_12_23_youll_shoot_the_climates_eye_out 
see point #2.

As for getting a new car, I guess that I will
have to wait for the Volkswagon version of the
new BMW i3 carbon-fibre electric car. Finally
someone takes seriously the idea that lighter is
better. Anyone doing confocal etc. on composites?

But I guess I am in danger of wasting a bit too much bandwidth. Sorry!

Best,

Jim P.

>
>On 10/01/2015, at 1:40 pm, James Pawley <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  *****
>>  To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>  http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>  Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>>  *****
>>
>>  Dear Allison,
>>
>>  a)  Good for for you to bring up this all
>>important topic (and I mean all important!).
>>
>>  b) However, looking at this problem from a
>>slightly broader perspective, a Hg source runs
>>at 100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over
>>about 5 weeks, about the same as used by our
>>automobile in 30 minutes, so maybe we should
>>also think about driving a bike to work or
>>living closer to the lab.
>>
>>  If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is
>>even worse, because compared to even a
>>coal-fired power plant, internal combustion
>>engines are very inefficient at turning heat
>>into what we want, especially in city driving
>>(40% vs. about 12%). And at least here in
>>freezing Indiana, that 100 W helps keep us warm
>>for half the year.
>>
>>  Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be
>>for every $2 US spent, 1kg of CO2 is burned
>>somewhere.*
>>
>>  "A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)
>>
>>  Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern
>>Hemisphere, where I encourage the use of a
>>parasol.)
>>
>>  Jim Pawley
>>
>>  * Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this
>>economic activity occurs not so much because of
>>human will but because energy is expended,
>>somewhere. Essentially all of this energy is
>>related to CO2 production.  Global CO2 is 36G
>>tons or 36T kg.
>  >
>>>  Allison, List,
>>>
>>> I shudder to think about how much power
>>>an NMR machine uses.  Electron microscopes are
>>>pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible
>>>to turn them off overnight.  At least things
>>>improved when they changed from valves (vacuum
>>>tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot
>>>are doing pretty well.  Mercury lamps are
>>>well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.
>>>Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced
>>>by diode or DPSS.  Digital cameras, at least
>>>uncooled ones, probably use much less power
>>>overall than film. And I remember when we got
>>>our first ink-jet printer - a monster that had
>>>to be left on 24/7. Computers likewise didn't
>>>have the energy saving low-power modes they
>>>have today.  So we aren't too bad.
>  >>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>>  Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>>>  School of Medical Sciences
>>>
>>>  Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>>>  Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Confocal Microscopy List
>>>[mailto:[hidden email]] On
>>>Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>>>  Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>>>  To: [hidden email]
>>>  Subject: Re: save the electron!
>>>
>>>  *****
>>>  To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>  http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>  Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>>>  *****
>>>
>>>  Good morning everyone,
>>>  Thanks so much to all of you have completed
>>>the survey already.  A copy of the study will
>>>be available in the spring, and I will share
>>>the link with the group when it is online.
>>>
>>>  I really appreciate the conversation this
>>>post has generated.  In response to some of
>>>the comments/questions:
>>>
>>>  1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted;
>>>'please stop inconveniencing electrons' just
>>>didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do
>>>appreciate those of you who have pointed this
>>>error out to me.  You are correct - I should
>>>not have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a
>>>tag line, and for this I apologize.
>>>  Perhaps instead I should have pointed out
>>>that on average laboratories consume nearly 5x
>>>as much energy as a typical office space.
>>>Laboratories account for nearly 60% of all
>>>energy used on a typical academic campus,
>>>while only occupying 25% of the total space.
>>>On average, one dual compressor -80 freezer
>>>consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an
>>>average house uses.  One fume hood can consume
>>>over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one, to my
>>>knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the
>>>amount of energy consumed by an Argon-Ion
>>>laser, I'd be willing to bet it's not trivial,
>>>especially when the effects on the HVAC system
>>>are taken into account.
>>>  So labs have the attention of the utility
>>>companies. And that's a good thing, because
>>>they are willing to provide financial
>>>incentives to save energy.  For example, a
>>>utility company in California fully funded the
>>>replacement of a gas laser with a solid state
>>>laser simply based on energy savings.  We'd
>>>like to be able to do this for many different
>>>pieces of equipment, and that is why we are
>>>asking for your help with this study.
>>>
>>>  2.  In response to the comment about the Hg
>>>bulb:  based on the plug load alone, metal
>>>halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest
>>>consumers of energy in a lab.
>>>  However they do radiate a substantial amount
>>>of heat (I used to use our metal halide light
>>>source to warm my hands), and this heat can
>>>have a significant impact on the
>>>heating/cooling in the building.  The extent
>>>of this impact will depend on the size of the
>>>room, the type of HVAC in the building, and
>>>the number of mercury or metal halide light
>>>sources, but our models show that removing
>>>these light sources can reduce HVAC-related
>>>energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>>>
>>>  3.  Because we can really only have an impact
>>>on labs in the US we have limited the survey
>>>to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't
>>>feel like it was fair to ask anyone outside of
>>>the US to donate their time to this project
>>>when they themselves would likely not benefit
>>>from it.
>>>
>>>  I hope this helps clarify some things.  As
>>>always, any questions and all comments are
>>>welcome.  And please, if you haven't already
>>>done so, complete the survey at:
>>>www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>  >>
>>>  Have a great day!
>>>  Best,
>>>  Allison
>>>
>>>  allison paradise | executive director | my
>>>green lab | 860.680.3283 |
>>>[hidden email]
>>>
>>>>  On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>>>  <[hidden email]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *****
>>>>  To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>  http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>>  Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting.
>>>>  *****
>>>>
>>>>  Hello Allison,
>>>>
>>>>  Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>>>  the location of your lab is in the USA.
>  >>>
>>>>  Best Regards,
>>>>  Pete
>>>>
>>>>  Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
>>>>  Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
>>>>  group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
>>>>  Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>>>>  01307 Dresden, Saxony
>>>>  Germany
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>>>>  http://www.openspim.org
>>>>
>>>>  "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>>>  names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>>>  Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>>>  posting.
>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Hi Allison,
>>>>  <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>>>  single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>>>  our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>>>  time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>>>  chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>>>  to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>>>  electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>>>  building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Best wishes
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Andreas
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> -----Original Message-----
>>>>  <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
>>>>  â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>>>>  <[hidden email]>
>>>>  <|> Subject: save the electron!
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>>>  posting.
>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>>>  laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>>>  case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>>>  microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>>>  to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>>>  energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>>>  <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>>>  > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
>>>>  develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>>>  about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
>>>>  in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>>>  will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
>>>>  here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
>>>>  with your friends and colleagues.
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>>>  save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>>>  www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>>>  or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
>>>>  <|>
>>>>  <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>>>  <|>
>  >
>>
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Or you could just drive all-electric and not waste power while stopped at a
red light. Apparently Chevy is throwing its hat in the ring against Tesla.
Should be interesting:

http://jalopnik.com/the-chevrolet-bolt-will-be-a-200-mile-electric-tesla-fi-1678649485/

Craig

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:24 PM, James Pawley <[hidden email]> wrote:

> *****
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>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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>>
>> Jim, you need a more modern engine/car and your efficiency will double to
>> 25-30%...
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>
> Well, we would all like a new car and those few new cars with direct fuel
> injection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection claim to
> do even better than 30%, at least at some speeds
>
> But for most of the cars now on the road (and affordable to the underpaid,
> microscopist geeks likely to read this list), you only get close to 25% at
> very specific RPM/load levels, usually near 75% of maximum power.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency#Gasoline_.
> 28petrol.29_engines
>
> When it is idling waiting for a light, it is zero. Hence my use of the
> term "city driving" which is what many of us do on the way to work. Using
> most cars at 75% of maximum power will soon result in speeding ticket.
>
> Even 12% is optimistic for many cars that are actually currently on the
> road (i.e., not a new BMW).
>
> When considering biking, what about adding in the saving of all the time
> and energy use related to visiting exercise spas that could be saved by a
> sporty bike ride or the gas spent looking for parking.
>
> http://blog.rmi.org/blog_2014_12_23_youll_shoot_the_climates_eye_out see
> point #2.
>
> As for getting a new car, I guess that I will have to wait for the
> Volkswagon version of the new BMW i3 carbon-fibre electric car. Finally
> someone takes seriously the idea that lighter is better. Anyone doing
> confocal etc. on composites?
>
> But I guess I am in danger of wasting a bit too much bandwidth. Sorry!
>
> Best,
>
> Jim P.
>
>
>
>> On 10/01/2015, at 1:40 pm, James Pawley <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>   *****
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>>>
>>>  Dear Allison,
>>>
>>>  a)  Good for for you to bring up this all important topic (and I mean
>>> all important!).
>>>
>>>  b) However, looking at this problem from a slightly broader
>>> perspective, a Hg source runs at 100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over
>>> about 5 weeks, about the same as used by our automobile in 30 minutes, so
>>> maybe we should also think about driving a bike to work or living closer to
>>> the lab.
>>>
>>>  If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is even worse, because compared
>>> to even a coal-fired power plant, internal combustion engines are very
>>> inefficient at turning heat into what we want, especially in city driving
>>> (40% vs. about 12%). And at least here in freezing Indiana, that 100 W
>>> helps keep us warm for half the year.
>>>
>>>  Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be for every $2 US spent,
>>> 1kg of CO2 is burned somewhere.*
>>>
>>>  "A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)
>>>
>>>  Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern Hemisphere, where I
>>> encourage the use of a parasol.)
>>>
>>>  Jim Pawley
>>>
>>>  * Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this economic activity occurs not
>>> so much because of human will but because energy is expended, somewhere.
>>> Essentially all of this energy is related to CO2 production.  Global CO2 is
>>> 36G tons or 36T kg.
>>>
>>  >
>>
>>>  Allison, List,
>>>>
>>>>         I shudder to think about how much power an NMR machine uses.
>>>> Electron microscopes are pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to
>>>> turn them off overnight.  At least things improved when they changed from
>>>> valves (vacuum tubes) to transistors.  But I think our lot are doing pretty
>>>> well.  Mercury lamps are well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.
>>>> Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or DPSS.  Digital
>>>> cameras, at least uncooled ones, probably use much less power overall than
>>>> film. And I remember when we got our first ink-jet printer - a monster that
>>>> had to be left on 24/7. Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving
>>>> low-power modes they have today.  So we aren't too bad.
>>>>
>>>  >>
>>
>>>                                 Guy
>>>>
>>>>  Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>>>>  School of Medical Sciences
>>>>
>>>>  Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>>>>  Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@
>>>> LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>>>>  Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>>>>  To: [hidden email]
>>>>  Subject: Re: save the electron!
>>>>
>>>>  *****
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>>>>
>>>>  Good morning everyone,
>>>>  Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already.  A
>>>> copy of the study will be available in the spring, and I will share the
>>>> link with the group when it is online.
>>>>
>>>>  I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated.  In
>>>> response to some of the comments/questions:
>>>>
>>>>  1.  I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop
>>>> inconveniencing electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it.  But I do
>>>> appreciate those of you who have pointed this error out to me.  You are
>>>> correct - I should not have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line,
>>>> and for this I apologize.
>>>>  Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories
>>>> consume nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space. Laboratories
>>>> account for nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus,
>>>> while only occupying 25% of the total space. On average, one dual
>>>> compressor -80 freezer consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an average
>>>> house uses.  One fume hood can consume over 60 kWh/day.  And while no one,
>>>> to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount of energy consumed
>>>> by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's not trivial, especially
>>>> when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into account.
>>>>  So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good
>>>> thing, because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save
>>>> energy.  For example, a utility company in California fully funded the
>>>> replacement of a gas laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy
>>>> savings.  We'd like to be able to do this for many different pieces of
>>>> equipment, and that is why we are asking for your help with this study.
>>>>
>>>>  2.  In response to the comment about the Hg bulb:  based on the plug
>>>> load alone, metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of
>>>> energy in a lab.
>>>>  However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use
>>>> our metal halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a
>>>> significant impact on the heating/cooling in the building.  The extent of
>>>> this impact will depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the
>>>> building, and the number of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our
>>>> models show that removing these light sources can reduce HVAC-related
>>>> energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>>>>
>>>>  3.  Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we
>>>> have limited the survey to people whose labs are in the US.  We didn't feel
>>>> like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to
>>>> this project when they themselves would likely not benefit from it.
>>>>
>>>>  I hope this helps clarify some things.  As always, any questions and
>>>> all comments are welcome.  And please, if you haven't already done so,
>>>> complete the survey at: www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>>>>
>>>  >>
>>
>>>  Have a great day!
>>>>  Best,
>>>>  Allison
>>>>
>>>>  allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 |
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>
>>>>   On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>>>>  <[hidden email]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> posting.
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>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello Allison,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>>>>  the location of your lab is in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>  >>>
>>
>>>  Best Regards,
>>>>>  Pete
>>>>>
>>>>>  Peter Gabriel Pitrone - DipRMS TechRMS FRMS Light Sheet Fluorescence
>>>>>  Microscopist and Imaging Specialist for Dr. Pavel Tomancak's research
>>>>>  group at the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and
>>>>>  Genetics Pfotenhauerstraße 108
>>>>>  01307 Dresden, Saxony
>>>>>  Germany
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.mpi-cbg.de/research/research-groups/pavel-tomancak.html &
>>>>>  http://www.openspim.org
>>>>>
>>>>>  "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>>>>  names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>>>>  Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
>>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>>>>  posting.
>>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Hi Allison,
>>>>>  <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>>>>  single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>>>>  our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>>>>  time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>>>>  chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>>>>  to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>>>>  electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>>>>  building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Best wishes
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Andreas
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>  <|> From: "Allison Paradise" <[hidden email]> <|> Sent:
>>>>>  â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "[hidden email]"
>>>>>  <[hidden email]>
>>>>>  <|> Subject: save the electron!
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>>  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>>>>  <|> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>>>>>  <|> Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your
>>>>>  posting.
>>>>>  <|> *****
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>>>>  laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>>>>  case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>>>>  microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>>>>  to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>>>>  energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>>>>  <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>>>>>
>>>>  > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates.  But before we can
>>>>
>>>>>  develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>>>>  about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey.  Anyone who works
>>>>>  in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>>>>  will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air.  A link to the survey is
>>>>>  here:  www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL <|> Feel free to share this link
>>>>>  with your friends and colleagues.
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>>>>  save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>>>>  www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>>>>  or questions at <|> [hidden email] <|> <|> Thank you!!
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>  <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>>>>  <|>
>>>>>
>>>>  >
>>
>>>
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>>
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>> Professor of Cardiac Cell Biology
>> School of Physiology &  Pharmacology
>> Medical Sciences Building
>> University of Bristol
>> Bristol
>> BS8 1TD UK
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
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