Re: advertising a booth at a meeting

Posted by RICHARD BURRY on
URL: http://confocal-microscopy-list.275.s1.nabble.com/Micro-Manager-at-the-ASCB-meeting-tp1627182p1630954.html

There is a big difference between a discussion about an instrument and an advertisement.  This listserve is a great way to keep up to date, but I do not want to see it become a way for anyone to advertise services or products.  As I see it the key element is if the posting is to inform it is great, if it is to sell then it is bad.  Announcements of commercial events or products come very close to the edge and I would rather error on the side of getting less email.  Therefore, I suggest no commercial announcements.

Dick

Richard W. Burry, Ph.D.
Department of Neuroscience, College of Medicine
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility, Director
The Ohio State University

----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Boswell <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: advertising a booth at a meeting
To: [hidden email]


> While a blatant advertisement is not appropriate for this
> listserv, I
> remember a very interesting and pointed discourse between
> vendors about
> digital cameras occuring here.  As long as it is
> informative, I see no
> reason to disallow commercial interests from discussing issues,
> comparing
> their products with others or announcing something new. 
> Indeed, there have
> been many instances where someone sent out a plea to the
> community, and the
> vendor specifically mentioned was notably quiet.
>
> We are are all (those with profit motive and those that consume)
> capable of
> discriminating between crass commercialism and a note that would
> interest
> the imaging community.  Clearly any business that hopes to
> retain a higher
> level of credibility within this community should be able to
> distinguish
> between these concepts.  If they can not, then this current
> discussion would
> suggest that they will certainly learn in short order.
>
>
> Regards,
> Carl
>
> Carl A. Boswell, Ph.D.
> Molecular and Cellular Biology
> University of Arizona
> 520-954-7053
> FAX 520-621-3709
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Carroll" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: advertising a booth at a meeting
>
>
> > > If you have to pay for it, it is commercial and such posts
> should be
> > discouraged.
> >
> > I agree 100%. If I want to buy a product or service, I know
> where to look.
> > Similarly, if I want  to find expert confocal
> information, I know where to
> > look.
> >
> > Why mix the two?
> >
> > P
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert J. Palmer Jr. wrote:
> >> If you have to pay for it, it is commercial and such posts
> should be
> >> discouraged.
> >>
> >>> To All,
> >>>
> >>> I think I'd like to get some feedback on "what is
> appropriate for
> >>> posting" on this listserv and "what is not
> appropriate."  To my way of
> >>> thinking, it is appropriate to list seminars and workshops
> when these
> >>> are free of charge from both commercial entities and non-
> profit (e.g.,
> >>> web seminars).  It is also appropriate to list seminars
> and workshops
> >>> from commercial and non-profit agencies when these are for a
> fee, but I
> >>> would think that many(?) of those on this listserv may
> disagree with the
> >>> inclusion of commercial agencies.  As far as vendors
> who are showing at
> >>> a conference, this is a far stickier subject.  To my
> way of thinking,
> >>> whether the enterprise is for profit or not for profit,
> neither should
> >>> be able to advertise on this listserv (as much as I, too, am
> a votary of
> >>> the micro-manager software).
> >>> I think there is a clear separation between "products" and
> "education.">>> It would be useful to all to clarify what can be
> posted and what is
> >>> inappropriate.
> >>>
> >>> If interested, please send email to me at [hidden email]
> in regard to
> >>> this subject if you want to weigh in on it.   I
> know there will not be
> >>> universal agreement, but maybe this can be a means to get to
> >>> clarification.  Or maybe it will just be a way to get
> myself into
> >>> trouble.
> >>>
> >>> Jerry Sedgewick
> >>> listserv manager
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [hidden email] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems like commericial ad to me- my compamy, BD, is too
> ethical to
> >>>> allowthis,
> >>>> Sally D. Dowling, PhD
> >>>> BD Biosciences, Bioimaging Technical Sales
> >>>> Ph:  301-351-0524
> >>>> http://www.bdbiosciences.com/bioimaging
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *  From: *Nico Stuurman [[hidden email]]
> >>>> *  Sent: *12/07/2008 04:10 PM PST
> >>>> *  To: *[hidden email]
> >>>> *  Subject: *Micro-Manager at the ASCB meeting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are attending the upcoming  ASCB meeting in San
> Francisco,
> >>>> December 13-17 (http://www.ascb.org/meetings/), please come
> see us in
> >>>> booth 2009 in the Exhibition space.
> >>>>
> >>>> Micro-Manager (http://micro-manager.org <http://micro-
> manager.org/>) is
> >>>> Open Source software for microscope image
> acquisition.  It controls a
> >>>> large number of scientific grade cameras, microscopes and
> peripherals
> >>>> and lets you take snapshots, do time-lapses, z-stacks, and
> >>>> multi-channel images.  It runs as an ImageJ plugin and
> works under the
> >>>> Windows, Mac and Linux OSs. Micro-Manager is being
> developed at the
> >>>> Vale lab at UCSF supported by a grant from the NIH.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are planning on having a microscope setup consisting of
> a Yokogawa
> >>>> spinning disk confocal, Hamamatsu EM camera, Solamere laser
> launch,
> >>>> Zeiss AxioObserver and ASI XY and piezo Z-stage all run
> from a Mac Pro
> >>>> using Micro-Manager!  We will be demonstrating a way
> to do very fast
> >>>> multi-channel imaging and acquiring Z-stacks using a
> hardware solution
> >>>> based on the Arduino micro-controller
> (http://www.arduino.cc/). This is
> >>>> also your chance to meet the new members of the Micro-
> Manager team:
> >>>> Oleksiy Danikhno (who joined us last week) and Arthur
> Edelstein (who
> >>>> will start in January). Of course, our main goal is to meet
> you, hear
> >>>> about your experiences with Micro-Manager, your wishes for
> future
> >>>> development and everything else you would like to tell
> us.  It is also
> >>>> a great opportunity to get personal hands-on training in
> the use of
> >>>> Micro-Manager.  If you are running a microscope with
> Micro-Manager,
> >>>> tell us at the meeting and we might have a Micro-Manager T-
> shirt left
> >>>> for you!
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope to see you there!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Nico
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