Re: intensity measurements

Posted by Guy Cox on
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In terms of quantitation, surely the best result is to forget RGB imaging altogether.  From what I recall DAB gives a browny-black colour, so a greyscale image should do fine.  But I do echo Julio's doubts about quantitation.  If you are working in fluorescence, rather than picking one RGB channel the best thing is to get a filter (or set a spectral range) which matches your fluorochrome and excludes anything else, then again record an image of just that channel.
 
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From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julio Vazquez
Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 2:32 AM
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Subject: Re: intensity measurements


I should add a couple of things:

1. several of the manufacturers who sell digital pathology systems and/or image analysis software now have tools to separate and analyze color  images such as those obtained from IHC chromogenic stains. Some may actually do a pretty good job at separating specific color ranges or hues. The problem here is that often the analysis has to be limited to measuring the stained area fraction, since in a color image, the "intensity" is a somewhat meaningless notion (you get the average of three values, such as red, green, and blue), and very different colors or hues may give similar "intensity" values. That's why separating color channels first and picking the one that's most representative is useful. In many cases though, measuring the area fraction that has the desired color range may be just fine. It all depends on the information that is most relevant for your experiment.

2. You also need to ask yourself whether  DAB and other chromogenic stains are quantitative. You can generally distinguish pale from medium from dark staining, but the "dynamic range" is most probably more limited than, for instance, fluorescent staining. Doing some staining intensity calibrations would certainly be a good idea, to see how linear and/or quantitative this approach is.



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Julio Vazquez
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
Seattle, WA 


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On Jun 1, 2009, at 3:51 AM, vaishali kailaje wrote:

hello friends,
We are interested in measuring the intensity in immnohistochemical slides (DAB stained). 
Could anybody suggest some software or a method to quantitate DAB intensity in tissue sections.
Secondly,can these measurements be made using metomorph, ImageJ or Axiovision as these are the softwares available with us.

Thanks

Vaishali Kailaje
Scientific Assistant,
Tata Memorial Centre,
Advanced Centre for Treatment Reasearch Education in Cancer 
Kahrghar,
Navi Mumbai,
India.







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