Re: Nuclear Dyes at 405nm?

Posted by Keith Morris on
URL: http://confocal-microscopy-list.275.s1.nabble.com/Nuclear-Dyes-at-405nm-tp3144876p3147675.html

Hi Griffin,

 

Granted the DAPI excitation is at the tail of the excitation peak*** when using the 405nm laser line, but there’s a heck of a lot of labeled DNA in the nucleus to excite. The 405nm laser is essentially designed as a cheap replacement for an incredibly expensive water cooled uV laser [£50k+ including cooling system] and this 405nm line is still rarely used for anything other DAPI imaging. Hoechst is actually even worse than DAPI with the 405nm laser line, down from 11% to nearer 5% on the excitation peak tail.

 

In every case I have encountered where the 405nm line laser is consistently very poor at imaging it requires a long visit by the Zeiss or Leica engineer [for our German confocal systems]*. Fortunately our confocal systems are on maintenance contracts as generally an awful lot of DAPI associated hardware seems to been replaced during ‘repair’ [e.g. lasers, AOTF & other optics]. This assumes you have done the most a user can do, like align pinholes [for Zeiss 510s], etc… I always have a perfectly DAPI/FITC/TRITC labeled Invitrogen BPAE cell and kidney slice** to hand to either demonstrate to users that ‘the system is working perfectly and it’s their poor samples’ or, more rarely, that ‘we have a problem Huston’. The BPAE cells preps seem to store better than the kidney slice, where in the latter the fluorescence diffuses to ‘incorrect’ locations over time [it stays bright though]. These Invitrogen slides cost approx £80 and £130 respectively and last up to a year stored in the fridge/freezer.

 

As other threads have pointed out, DAPI labeling isn’t always perfectly straight-forward. I’d advise staining separately for DAPI and avoid the Likes of ‘Vectashield+DAPI’ to keep the background to the absolute minimum for top notch DAPI images- although use of the latter shouldn’t produce really naff ‘off’ DAPI images

 

Keith

 

*Assuming it was decent at installation – and with our Zeiss 510 and Leica SP2 confocals DAPI [and even Hoechst] imaging is excellent. We image at around 10% laser power [30mW 405nm laser].

 

**http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/cytogenetics/Zeiss.shtml see our Invitrogen slide images

***http://www.invitrogen.com/site/us/en/home/support/Research-Tools/Fluorescence-SpectraViewer.reg.uk.html


 

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From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Perry, Griffin M
Sent: 23 June 2009 21:31
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Subject: Nuclear Dyes at 405nm?

 

Dear Listserv,

 

I was wondering if anyone had better results with DAPI @ 405nm than I have.  It seems…off.  I know it is only getting excited @ 25%, but I know another group that gets good images at the same wavelength.  The staining has been uneven with DAPI, but with Topro-3 in the 638nm range, the staining has been beautiful with clearly defined nucleoli.  Does anybody use Hoechst 34580?    Are there any other alternatives to DAPI @ the 405nm range?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

-Griffin