Re: Fluorescence theory. was: chlorophyll and associated pigment spectra

Posted by Christian-103 on
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Howard,

Have you checked the entire spectra from ~500 nm through ~750 nm with only an excitation of ~488 nm?

The reason is said "associated pigments" is due to the fact that you can easily see grana stacks (the location of the chlorophylls) in the far red channel, but you can not in the roughly 520 nm range.  I assume it's one of two things, either it's not bright enough to resolve the stacks or it's different pigments.

I often use only the 488 nm laser line to image GFP and chlorophyll, but there is a point where "chloroplasts" will fill the image in the 522 nm channel.  Again, 35S promoters are not a problem, it's the native promoters or when small organelles are targeted.

I can not be the only person who has seen "orange" chloroplasts or even false yellow ones, can I?

Christian



--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Howard Berg <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Howard Berg <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Fluorescence theory. was: chlorophyll and associated pigment spectra
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 8:38 AM

To address the first part of your discussion, chlorophyll emission 
detected in our Meta system is always the same from different plants 
and with different excitations, with a peak near 680.

Howard



On Feb 19, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Steffen Dietzel wrote:

> At 07:51 19.02.2010, you wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> If you use the 633 laser, you’ll get the
>> expected emission peak at around 695 nm which is
>> largely photosystem II emission, then a flat
>> tail up to 760 or so which is mostly PSI.  There
>> are many absorption and emission spectra around,
>> though I suspect quite a few of these are for
>> isolated pigments in a polar solvent.  The
>> emission spectra depend very strongly on the
>> wavelength(s) of the excitation light, so there
>> isn’t really a standard emission
>
> How does that fit to the theory of fluorescence?
> The theory says that fluorescence occurs when an
> electron is falling from the lowest energy level
> of the excited state to (any) energy level of the
> ground state, emitting a photon during the
> process. I thought because of that, the
> fluorescent spectrum wavelength is supposed to be
> always the same, independant of the mode of excitation.
>
> Did I miss something or is there a problem with the theory?
>
> While I am on it: If the theory is correct, how
> can excitation and emission spectra overlap
> without breaking the law of conversation of
> energy? (Example: If you would excite FITC with
> 510 nm, how could you obtain the part of the
> emission spectrum below 510? I am not sure one
> actually would get this part, but if not, this
> would seem to argue against the theory of fluorescence.)
>
> Steffen
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