Re: not a confocal question - features of a widefield

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At 06:17 PM 12/7/2007 +0000, Nuno Moreno wrote:

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>Yes. In fact I just did it and I was wondering
>if there was some kind of commercial solution to compare.
>
>Even Deltavison what they do is having a
>switchable auto-focus that exposes with low
>light before taking the "real" picture, which is
>not adaptative. It might work better than mine
>because thinks are better integrated but it is not more elegant :)
>
>The adaptative exposure its so stupidly simple
>that I don't know why it is not integrated the
>most of the well know software. Not IPP,
>metamorph , Leica, Zeiss or Deltavision...as far has I know.
>
>Maybe I have to sell it ;).
>
>Regards,
>NM
>
>
>
>Zoltan Cseresnyes wrote:
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>>I've been thinking about building a system like
>>that ever since one of our users started doing
>>overnight recordings and his samples sometimes
>>drift vertically and thus would need an
>>autofocus system to correct for that.  If you
>>could tap into the Z-controller circuit of your
>>system, you would be able to drive that with a
>>signal that's proportional to the vertical
>>drift.  The drift could be scaled with e.g.
>>calculating average intensity during a Z-stack
>>from a certain area of the image that's fairly
>>thin.  Similar logic would work for the autoexposure as well.
>>Want to try it?  Zoltan
>>On Dec 7, 2007 4:41 PM, Nuno Moreno
>><[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
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>>     Autoexpose will bleach everything, right?
>>     Regarding the adaptative focus that I mentioned before, there are
>>     commercial system that with minimum light and before an acquisition
>>     "measure" the cell position and adapt the focus. But this is an half
>>     adaptation. It could be that it does not need to readjust the focus.
>>     What I was counting with would be after the acquisition, if it is out of
>>     focus, it make the adjustment base in some kind of sensitivity
>>     parameter. This could be after 10 time points but it might be that it
>>     would never need such adjustment.
>>
>>     About the intensity variations I'm not talking about post processing
>>     adjustments. If it gets saturated there are no post processing that can
>>     help you.
>>     Regards,
>>     NM
>>
>>
>>     Shalin Mehta wrote:
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>>     <http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal> Dear Nuno,
>>      >
>>      >  Wouldn't auto-exposure on cameras suffice for maintaining constant
>>      > intensity?
>>      >
>>      > Apparently most of the commercial adaptive optics systems are geared
>>      > towards astronomy. Perhaps you have known this already:
>>      > http://cfao.ucolick.org/
>>      > Interesting to note that James Webb space telescope will have
>>     hardware
>>      > and intelligence for adaptive optics evolved from algorithms
>>     developed
>>      > for correcting aberrations for hubble telescope.
>>      >
>>      > Regards,
>>      > Shalin
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On Dec 7, 2007 10:43 PM, Nuno Moreno <[hidden email]
>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>      >
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
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>>      >     Does anyone knows any commercial widefield SYSTEM that makes an
>>      >     adaptative focus. And I mean adaptative (follows the cell.
>>      >
>>      >     The other feature is a commercial system that keeps
>>     intensities, i.e.,
>>      >     if you have something with different protein expression
>>     levels over
>>      >     time, the system will correct the exposure time so that at
>>     the end the
>>      >     intensities are constant.
>>      >
>>      >     Many thanks,
>>      >     --
>>      >     Nuno Moreno
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>>      >
>>      >
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>>     Nuno Moreno
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>>     Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência
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