Re: LEDs

Posted by Julio Vazquez on
URL: http://confocal-microscopy-list.275.s1.nabble.com/LEDs-tp4283200p7323977.html

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And with regard to Lumencor and similar light engines, a description of the system can be found here:

http://www.lumencor.com/docs/Lumencor%20White%20Paper.pdf

and more detailed information of what's inside can be found in Lumencor's various patents, such as this one:

http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/8098375.html

Julio.

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From: "Craig Brideau" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:14:08 PM
Subject: Re: LEDs

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Yeah, the part where it sort-of has a bulb threw me for a loop.  So it
seems like it is a bulb without filaments; just a gas pocket inside a
dielectric.  It will be interesting to learn what the 'field' lifetime of
the bulbs actually end up being.

Craig


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Guy Cox <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> If you follow the links from that Thorlab website you gave, you find:
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> "the heart of LIFI(r) is the bulb sub-assembly where a sealed bulb is
> embedded in a dielectric material. This design is more reliable than
> conventional light sources that insert degradable electrodes into the bulb.
> The dielectric material serves two purposes: first as a waveguide for the
> RF energy transmitted by the RF Power Amplifier Circuit (PA) and second as
> an electric field concentrator that focuses energy in the bulb. The energy
> from the electric field rapidly heats the material in the bulb to a plasma
> state that emits light of high intensity and full spectrum."
>
> In other words, it's not solid-state at all.  But it's a very neat idea.
>  Note that they don't tell you what's in the bulb!
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>                                                          Guy
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> Some of these 'solid state' light sources claim to be plasma based?  What
> are these things, and does anyone care to share their experiences with
> them?  Here's a link to the kind of source I'm talking about:
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> http://www.thorlabs.com/NewGroupPage9.cfm?ObjectGroup_ID=5551
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> I don't have any experience with these and was curious.
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> Craig
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> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Christian Mohn <
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> > Hi,
> >
> > we are just about to go thru the same procedure. Some things became
> > obvious while unravelling the marketing pdfs.
> > 1. nobody tells you where and how they measure output or what the
> > illuminated field of view is... 45mW on a 11mm f.o.v is different from
> > 45 mW on a 25mm field of view (I assume the direct coupled will all
> > fill the 25 while a 0.3NA fibre only fills F.oV of 16mm reasonably) 2.
> > solid-state is just another word for "yes, for some we use a phosphor
> > in front the led chip" and this will definatly not increase overall
> > power since phosphorescence will never reach 100% efficiency....
> >
> > My advice... get a device to your lab and test it.
> >
> > Best wishes from the cold north,
> >
> > Chris
> >
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