Re: Measuring PSFs using water dipping objective

Posted by Jeremy Adler-4 on
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The Refractive index of Mowiol is that of oil, which will alter the  
PSF of a microsphere embedded in it and imaged with a water dipping  
objective. Is there a way of correcting the PSF for use with a dipping  
objective ?
Quoting Peng Xi <[hidden email]>:

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> Hi Stephan,
>      To measure the PSF you should learn from Stefan --- Stefan Hell
> who invented STED nanoscopy. They measure PSF on a daily basis, as
> they need to overlap confocal PSF with a doughnut shape PSF in X, Y,
> and Z direction. Now that I have also stepped in this field, I can
> tell you how to do it.
>      Basically, the confocal PSF can be measured with  fluorescent
> bead. Attach the bead on the surface of coverglass with poly-L-Lysin.
> Use Mowoil as an embedding medium. Add antifade reagent such as DABCO,
> because during PSF measurement you often stick to a very small region,
> therefore the sample undergoes large photobleaching. Also, if you want
> PSF more close to real situation, you may try smaller beads, as in
> fluorescent mode your measured PSF is a convolution of real PSF with a
> nanopartile with a certain size. You have to deduct the particle size
> from it
> (Diameter of real PSF)^2=(Diameter of measured PSF)^2 -(Diameter of bead)^2.
>      If you are able to remove your bandpass filter (I assume you are
> using fluorescent confocal) before the detector pinhole, you can also
> try to see whether you are able to use gold nanoparticle reflection to
> get PSF. Then you don't have photobleaching, and as long as your gold
> nanoparticle is smaller than your theoretical resolution, you don't
> need to count the size of nanopartile, because the reflection is only
> on the tip of the bead, not the waist. :)
>      A good reference for such sample preparation:
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/t8ntp60137050851/#section=614830&page=1
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>      Good luck!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peng Xi
> Ph. D.    Associate Professor
> Dept. of Biomedical Engineering, College of Engineering
> Peking University, Beijing, China
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> http://www.opticsinfobase.org/oe/abstract.cfm?uri=oe-20-13-14100
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Zac Arrac Atelaz  
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>> I can think of two possible issues afecting the result, very thick  
>> layer of agar being cracked by the objective, very high power  
>> output from the laser setting free the particles, if you keep the  
>> power low and change the wavelength you can avoid that one. I hope  
>> this can help you. Regards Gabriel OH
>>  > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:30:29 +0200
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>>> Subject: Re: Measuring PSFs using water dipping objective
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>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>
>>> > I am looking for a good protocol to measure PSFs on a confocal microscope
>>> > using water dipping objectives (objectives used for physiology, i.e. no
>>> > cover glass!).
>>> > I tried using fluorescent beads embedded in 5 % low melting  
>>> point agarose,
>>> > but it appears that the beads are moving, probably due to slight  
>>> swelling of
>>> > the agarose which is immersed in the water.
>>>
>>> I did something like that recently, using 80 nm diameter nanogold
>>> particles embedded in low-melt agarose and imaged in reflected light
>>> mode on a Zeiss LSM 780 NLO with dip-in lenses. The advantage over using
>>> a fluorescent bead is that the reflected signal is bright and of
>>> narrowly defined spectral range (we wanted to define chromatic
>>> aberration of our objectives, not get an experimental PSF for
>>> deconvolution). Particle movement didn't seem to be too much of an
>>> issue, perhaps because I could scan fast thanks to the high signal. Or
>>> possibly, the agarose mixture was a bit different to yours. Or, it might
>>> not have mattered for our question and I have forgotten. If I scrape my
>>> neurons a bit harder I recall that the near-IR laser made the particles
>>> wobble a bit, maybe because of local heating. Let me know if you want
>>> details of the protocol.
>>>
>>> Michael
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