Re: Oil inside lenses.

Posted by Craig Brideau on
URL: http://confocal-microscopy-list.275.s1.nabble.com/Oil-inside-lenses-tp7580369p7580375.html

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I feel your pain regarding the stage collisions.  We had a 60x water crush
by a stage not once but twice.  Cost $2k to fix each time.  Finally between
better user training and monitoring, and implementing a position limiter on
the stage we managed to avoid any further incidents.

Craig


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Glen MacDonald <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> Hi Claire,
>  Are these on inverted stands? At least up to the Axio line, Zeiss lenses
> telescoped with the nosepiece retracting into the barrel. Oil can  seep
> down through the seal where the nose retract into the barrel. A "scrunchie"
> hair retainer wrapped around the nosepiece will retard the drips and
> provide time to check lenses periodically.
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> My problem is motorized stages, not oil.  In a collision, the stage always
> wins. My current quote from Zeiss to repair a 100X oil is about US$3300.
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> On May 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "Claire Brown, Dr." <[hidden email]>
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> > We are relatively routinely seeing oil inside of our Zeiss 63x oil
> immersion lenses. You end up with a bead of oil inside that acts as a lens
> itself and the lens is unusable.
> >
> > As far as we can tell, it usually happens after prolonged use over many
> years. We are at a point now where our lenses are "old" and Zeiss cannot
> repair them because the parts are no longer available. It costs us $6-8,000
> to replace them. With 13 microscopes we have one lens failing every 6-12
> months or so. I can't afford to keep replacing these lenses and with this
> becoming a "routine" occurrence I want to seek out advice about why this
> might be happening. Our users are well trained and I don't think it is
> neglect by them. I think this is due to routine use.
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> > I have two questions:
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> > 1)      "Is there a defect in how these lenses are made?"
> >
> > For example, perhaps the seals on the front lenses degrade over time -
> we inspect our lenses regularly and many that have had oil inside have no
> obvious damage by visual inspection. Maybe they need to be resealed every
> year or two, maybe an internal seal degrades over time? Preventative
> maintenance of these lenses or a change in how they are manufactured would
> certainly cost less than $8,000 I would think.
> >
> >
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> > 2)      "Do people have a similar problem with oil immersion lenses from
> the other major manufacturers?"
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> > I look forward to some input here.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Claire
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