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red light. Apparently Chevy is throwing its hat in the ring against Tesla.
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>> Jim, you need a more modern engine/car and your efficiency will double to
>> 25-30%...
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Mark
>>
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>
> Well, we would all like a new car and those few new cars with direct fuel
> injection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection claim to
> do even better than 30%, at least at some speeds
>
> But for most of the cars now on the road (and affordable to the underpaid,
> microscopist geeks likely to read this list), you only get close to 25% at
> very specific RPM/load levels, usually near 75% of maximum power.
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency#Gasoline_.
> 28petrol.29_engines
>
> When it is idling waiting for a light, it is zero. Hence my use of the
> term "city driving" which is what many of us do on the way to work. Using
> most cars at 75% of maximum power will soon result in speeding ticket.
>
> Even 12% is optimistic for many cars that are actually currently on the
> road (i.e., not a new BMW).
>
> When considering biking, what about adding in the saving of all the time
> and energy use related to visiting exercise spas that could be saved by a
> sporty bike ride or the gas spent looking for parking.
>
>
http://blog.rmi.org/blog_2014_12_23_youll_shoot_the_climates_eye_out see
> point #2.
>
> As for getting a new car, I guess that I will have to wait for the
> Volkswagon version of the new BMW i3 carbon-fibre electric car. Finally
> someone takes seriously the idea that lighter is better. Anyone doing
> confocal etc. on composites?
>
> But I guess I am in danger of wasting a bit too much bandwidth. Sorry!
>
> Best,
>
> Jim P.
>
>
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>> On 10/01/2015, at 1:40 pm, James Pawley <
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>>> Dear Allison,
>>>
>>> a) Good for for you to bring up this all important topic (and I mean
>>> all important!).
>>>
>>> b) However, looking at this problem from a slightly broader
>>> perspective, a Hg source runs at 100W for 200 hours consuming 20kWh over
>>> about 5 weeks, about the same as used by our automobile in 30 minutes, so
>>> maybe we should also think about driving a bike to work or living closer to
>>> the lab.
>>>
>>> If we think of this in terms of CO2, it is even worse, because compared
>>> to even a coal-fired power plant, internal combustion engines are very
>>> inefficient at turning heat into what we want, especially in city driving
>>> (40% vs. about 12%). And at least here in freezing Indiana, that 100 W
>>> helps keep us warm for half the year.
>>>
>>> Keep thinking energy: A rule of thumb might be for every $2 US spent,
>>> 1kg of CO2 is burned somewhere.*
>>>
>>> "A kg saved is a kg earned." (Ben Franklin, updated.)
>>>
>>> Keep warm (Except those of you in the Southern Hemisphere, where I
>>> encourage the use of a parasol.)
>>>
>>> Jim Pawley
>>>
>>> * Global GDP is $74T; almost all of this economic activity occurs not
>>> so much because of human will but because energy is expended, somewhere.
>>> Essentially all of this energy is related to CO2 production. Global CO2 is
>>> 36G tons or 36T kg.
>>>
>> >
>>
>>> Allison, List,
>>>>
>>>> I shudder to think about how much power an NMR machine uses.
>>>> Electron microscopes are pretty heavy too, but it is really unfeasible to
>>>> turn them off overnight. At least things improved when they changed from
>>>> valves (vacuum tubes) to transistors. But I think our lot are doing pretty
>>>> well. Mercury lamps are well-nigh dead and LEDs use much less power.
>>>> Likewise gas lasers have mostly been replaced by diode or DPSS. Digital
>>>> cameras, at least uncooled ones, probably use much less power overall than
>>>> film. And I remember when we got our first ink-jet printer - a monster that
>>>> had to be left on 24/7. Computers likewise didn't have the energy saving
>>>> low-power modes they have today. So we aren't too bad.
>>>>
>>> >>
>>
>>> Guy
>>>>
>>>> Guy Cox, Honorary Associate Professor
>>>> School of Medical Sciences
>>>>
>>>> Australian Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis,
>>>> Madsen, F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@
>>>> LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Paradise Allison
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:03 AM
>>>> To:
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>>>> Subject: Re: save the electron!
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>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>> Thanks so much to all of you have completed the survey already. A
>>>> copy of the study will be available in the spring, and I will share the
>>>> link with the group when it is online.
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate the conversation this post has generated. In
>>>> response to some of the comments/questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I know electrons aren't actually wasted; 'please stop
>>>> inconveniencing electrons' just didn't have the same ring to it. But I do
>>>> appreciate those of you who have pointed this error out to me. You are
>>>> correct - I should not have sacrificed accuracy for the sake of a tag line,
>>>> and for this I apologize.
>>>> Perhaps instead I should have pointed out that on average laboratories
>>>> consume nearly 5x as much energy as a typical office space. Laboratories
>>>> account for nearly 60% of all energy used on a typical academic campus,
>>>> while only occupying 25% of the total space. On average, one dual
>>>> compressor -80 freezer consumes 20 kWh/day, which is as much as an average
>>>> house uses. One fume hood can consume over 60 kWh/day. And while no one,
>>>> to my knowledge, has yet rigorously studied the amount of energy consumed
>>>> by an Argon-Ion laser, I'd be willing to bet it's not trivial, especially
>>>> when the effects on the HVAC system are taken into account.
>>>> So labs have the attention of the utility companies. And that's a good
>>>> thing, because they are willing to provide financial incentives to save
>>>> energy. For example, a utility company in California fully funded the
>>>> replacement of a gas laser with a solid state laser simply based on energy
>>>> savings. We'd like to be able to do this for many different pieces of
>>>> equipment, and that is why we are asking for your help with this study.
>>>>
>>>> 2. In response to the comment about the Hg bulb: based on the plug
>>>> load alone, metal halide and mercury bulbs are not the largest consumers of
>>>> energy in a lab.
>>>> However they do radiate a substantial amount of heat (I used to use
>>>> our metal halide light source to warm my hands), and this heat can have a
>>>> significant impact on the heating/cooling in the building. The extent of
>>>> this impact will depend on the size of the room, the type of HVAC in the
>>>> building, and the number of mercury or metal halide light sources, but our
>>>> models show that removing these light sources can reduce HVAC-related
>>>> energy use anywhere from 10-30%.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Because we can really only have an impact on labs in the US we
>>>> have limited the survey to people whose labs are in the US. We didn't feel
>>>> like it was fair to ask anyone outside of the US to donate their time to
>>>> this project when they themselves would likely not benefit from it.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps clarify some things. As always, any questions and
>>>> all comments are welcome. And please, if you haven't already done so,
>>>> complete the survey at: www.surveymonkey.com/s/CEEL
>>>>
>>> >>
>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>> Best,
>>>> Allison
>>>>
>>>> allison paradise | executive director | my green lab | 860.680.3283 |
>>>>
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>>>> On January 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM Peter Gabriel Pitrone
>>>>> <
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>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>> Hello Allison,
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>>>>> Also, the questionnaire won't let you go on to the next page unless
>>>>> the location of your lab is in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
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>>>>> "I KEEP six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); their
>>>>> names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." Rudyard
>>>>> Kipling - The Elephant's Child
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, January 8, 2015 08:52, Andreas Bruckbauer wrote:
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>>>>> <|> Hi Allison,
>>>>> <|> Good cause but you chose the wrong name! We are returning every
>>>>> single <|> electron we borrow from the electricity supplier. Otherwise
>>>>> our lab would <|> be negatively charged and our hair stand up all the
>>>>> time! Just that <|> pumping the electrons around takes an awful lot of
>>>>> chemical, nuclear, <|> solar or other energy which is then converted
>>>>> to useless heat at our end <|> and we probably have to pump more
>>>>> electrons around to transport this heat <|> to somwhere outside the
>>>>> building (switch on the air conditioning).
>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> Best wishes
>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> Andreas
>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> -----Original Message-----
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>>>>> â¤Î07/â¤Î01/â¤Î2015 23:43 <|> To: "
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>>>>> <|> Every day, millions and millions of electrons are wasted in
>>>>> laboratories <|> - <|> from centrifuges kept at 4 degrees 'just in
>>>>> case' and water baths <|> permanently set to 37 degrees, to
>>>>> microscopes that are left on overnight <|> because the Hg bulb needed
>>>>> to be left on for 30 minutes, laboratories <|> waste <|> a lot of
>>>>> energy. Our non-profit, My Green Lab, is working to reduce <|> energy
>>>>> <|> use in labs, and put those energy savings back into the pockets of
>>>>>
>>>> > <|> researchers in the form of energy rebates. But before we can
>>>>
>>>>> develop <|> financial incentives, we need to know more information
>>>>> about the type of <|> equipment you use in your lab.
>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> Please help us by taking this 15-minute survey. Anyone who works
>>>>> in a <|> lab <|> is qualified to participate, and all participants
>>>>> will be entered to win <|> a <|> MacBook Air. A link to the survey is
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>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> For more information about our non-profit, or about how you can
>>>>> save <|> energy <|> in your lab, please visit our website:
>>>>> www.mygreenlab.org <|> <|> Feel free to contact me with any feedback
>>>>> or questions at <|>
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>>>>> <|>
>>>>> <|> Thank you for helping us save the electron!
>>>>> <|>
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>
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