Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?

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Dear Thomas

You get my Like too ;)

Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
 
Sylvie
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Phillips, Thomas E.
Sent: den 8 oktober 2015 16:29
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Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?

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"agree with the obvious" - did you mean women should be invited to speak at conferences or that this is yet another example of failing to do so?

Women were invited - as a scientist, I have found data can be useful. What were the number of each gender invited and what was the acceptance/decline rate?

Let's hope a listserver meant to discuss important issues to the field can be used for that. But if the list moderator feels differently, it would be up to him or her to clarify this policy. Are you on the oversight board for the listserver?

If you want to disprove the point made by the earlier posting, maybe you want to supply the data yourself. But if FOM is a better gender representation, it just goes to prove it is possible and therefore other conferences should be equally successful if they are proactive.





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From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Palmer, Robert J (NIH/NIDCR) [E]
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?

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So now we are finsihed with the hectoring I hope.  I¹m glad this forum is not Facebook and there is no ³like² button - I have other things to do besides watch people agree with the obvious.  Sometimes saying a little is saying a lot.

Jeremy - I fully support your concept (really).  It seems you want to make this a public crusade.  We all just reveived notice of the annual FOM meeting - a much larger event.  Perhaps you could run (or demand) the numbers on that one just for the sake of completeness.  The current speaker list (many speakers from abstracts, and thus sent by their home
institutions) is not yet available but plenty of information exists on the previous meetings.  Of course, the organizing committee is listed for the current meeting.  Given the vitriol with this last episode, the organizers may want to premptively address this issue publically right now.

Robert J. Palmer Jr., PhD
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On 10/8/15, 8:58 AM, "Alberto Diaspro" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>Dear
>Thank you for your observations. Please, let me tell you that: 1)
>Eirini is a woman; 2) I personally invited women that, for different
>reasons, declined; 3) I invited women - as I use to do - not because
>they are women - simply because they do excellent research in AND
>(logical) with the fact that I know the research they do; 4) I did not
>reply because i was on travelling with limited Internet access.
>I am Sorry for the xtremely low percentage, hopefully you will like
>Science.
>
>Alby iPad
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>> Il giorno 08 ott 2015, alle ore 14:41, Julia Edgar
>><[hidden email]> ha scritto:
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>> Yes, much appreciated, Jeremy.
>> Thank you
>> Julia
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Confocal Microscopy List
>>[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sylvie Le
>>Guyader
>> Sent: 08 October 2015 13:34
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
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>> There is no 'Like' button on the confocal server and no way to insert
>>an image in a mail but everyone knows what they look like anyway so I
>>give Jeremy a huge ŒLike¹.
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>> Thank you for your efforts, Jeremy! The Swedish part of me really
>>appreciates and the French part of me loves it! :)
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>> Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
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>> Sylvie
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>> Sylvie Le Guyader, PhD
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>> Live Cell Imaging Unit Manager
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>> Karolinska Institutet- Bionut Dpt
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>> Hälsovägen 7,
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>> Novum, G lift, floor 6
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>> 14157 Huddinge
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>> Sweden
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>> mobile: [phone]
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>> office: [phone]
>>
>> LCI website
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Confocal Microscopy List
>>[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adler
>> Sent: den 8 oktober 2015 11:20
>> To:
>>[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
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>> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
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>> Last week I posed a simple question about a conference that was being
>>promoted using this list.
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>> 'Alberto, in case my reading of unfamiliar names is incorrect,  could
>>you give us the fraction of the speakers that are male.'
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>> There has been no response - the question seems to come down to
>>whether men make up  100% or just 96% of the speakers. Implicit  in
>>the question is how is this possible.
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>> The massive under representation women as speakers is not trivial,
>>being invited to speak has considerable career advantages, its looks
>>good on a CV, it provides good networking opportunities beyond those
>>available to conference participants, in addition speakers costs are
>>often met and the unstated deal is that the organizers then
>>expect/hope that the chosen speakers will reciprocate and invite them
>>to their conferences - a loop that further works to exclude women.
>>That speakers often become decision makers on grant applications and
>>publications makes this cosy arrangement even more pernicious.
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>> So Alberto please answer a very simple but important  question.
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