Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?

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Last time this came up:
http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1503&L=CONFOCALMICROSCOPY&D=0&T=0&P=5784
...there were several nice suggestions for speakers. Anyone
have suggestions this time around?

I recall Sandra Masur offering this resource in the past:
http://www.ascb.org/women-in-cell-biology/speaker-referral-service
I think the updated version of this link is:
http://www.ascb.org/wicb-services/

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Sylvie Le Guyader <[hidden email]>
wrote:

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> Dear Thomas
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> You get my Like too ;)
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> Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
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> Sylvie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]
> On Behalf Of Phillips, Thomas E.
> Sent: den 8 oktober 2015 16:29
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> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
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> "agree with the obvious" - did you mean women should be invited to speak
> at conferences or that this is yet another example of failing to do so?
>
> Women were invited - as a scientist, I have found data can be useful. What
> were the number of each gender invited and what was the acceptance/decline
> rate?
>
> Let's hope a listserver meant to discuss important issues to the field can
> be used for that. But if the list moderator feels differently, it would be
> up to him or her to clarify this policy. Are you on the oversight board for
> the listserver?
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> If you want to disprove the point made by the earlier posting, maybe you
> want to supply the data yourself. But if FOM is a better gender
> representation, it just goes to prove it is possible and therefore other
> conferences should be equally successful if they are proactive.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Palmer, Robert J (NIH/NIDCR) [E]
> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:14 AM
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> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
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> So now we are finsihed with the hectoring I hope.  Iąm glad this forum is
> not Facebook and there is no łlike˛ button - I have other things to do
> besides watch people agree with the obvious.  Sometimes saying a little is
> saying a lot.
>
> Jeremy - I fully support your concept (really).  It seems you want to make
> this a public crusade.  We all just reveived notice of the annual FOM
> meeting - a much larger event.  Perhaps you could run (or demand) the
> numbers on that one just for the sake of completeness.  The current speaker
> list (many speakers from abstracts, and thus sent by their home
> institutions) is not yet available but plenty of information exists on the
> previous meetings.  Of course, the organizing committee is listed for the
> current meeting.  Given the vitriol with this last episode, the organizers
> may want to premptively address this issue publically right now.
>
> Robert J. Palmer Jr., PhD
> National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research National Institutes
> of Health Building 30, Room 207 Bethesda MD 20892
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> On 10/8/15, 8:58 AM, "Alberto Diaspro" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> >Dear
> >Thank you for your observations. Please, let me tell you that: 1)
> >Eirini is a woman; 2) I personally invited women that, for different
> >reasons, declined; 3) I invited women - as I use to do - not because
> >they are women - simply because they do excellent research in AND
> >(logical) with the fact that I know the research they do; 4) I did not
> >reply because i was on travelling with limited Internet access.
> >I am Sorry for the xtremely low percentage, hopefully you will like
> >Science.
> >
> >Alby iPad
> >
> >> Il giorno 08 ott 2015, alle ore 14:41, Julia Edgar
> >><[hidden email]> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Yes, much appreciated, Jeremy.
> >> Thank you
> >> Julia
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Confocal Microscopy List
> >>[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sylvie Le
> >>Guyader
> >> Sent: 08 October 2015 13:34
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
> >>
> >> There is no 'Like' button on the confocal server and no way to insert
> >>an image in a mail but everyone knows what they look like anyway so I
> >>give Jeremy a huge ŚLikeą.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your efforts, Jeremy! The Swedish part of me really
> >>appreciates and the French part of me loves it! :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sylvie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> >>
> >> Sylvie Le Guyader, PhD
> >>
> >> Live Cell Imaging Unit Manager
> >>
> >> Karolinska Institutet- Bionut Dpt
> >>
> >> Hälsovägen 7,
> >>
> >> Novum, G lift, floor 6
> >>
> >> 14157 Huddinge
> >>
> >> Sweden
> >>
> >> mobile: +46 (0) 73 733 5008
> >>
> >> office: +46 (0) 8 5248 1107
> >>
> >> LCI website
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Confocal Microscopy List
> >>[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adler
> >> Sent: den 8 oktober 2015 11:20
> >> To:
> >>[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
> >>DU>
> >> Subject: Re: Bioimaging in Genoa - Open access - Great Talks, No women ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Last week I posed a simple question about a conference that was being
> >>promoted using this list.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 'Alberto, in case my reading of unfamiliar names is incorrect,  could
> >>you give us the fraction of the speakers that are male.'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There has been no response - the question seems to come down to
> >>whether men make up  100% or just 96% of the speakers. Implicit  in
> >>the question is how is this possible.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The massive under representation women as speakers is not trivial,
> >>being invited to speak has considerable career advantages, its looks
> >>good on a CV, it provides good networking opportunities beyond those
> >>available to conference participants, in addition speakers costs are
> >>often met and the unstated deal is that the organizers then
> >>expect/hope that the chosen speakers will reciprocate and invite them
> >>to their conferences - a loop that further works to exclude women.
> >>That speakers often become decision makers on grant applications and
> >>publications makes this cosy arrangement even more pernicious.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So Alberto please answer a very simple but important  question.
> >>
> >>
>