Re: laser choices for multiphoton

Posted by Craig Brideau on
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As Steffen mentions, you can sometimes excite red dyes with surprisingly
short wavelengths in 2p. When this happens you are generally exciting an S2
or higher state which can give mixed results. Another possibility is 2+1
photon, where you 2-photon excite to an intermediate but generally
non-radiative level, then have a third photon arrive to bump it up a little
further into a state from which it can radiate. Note this is not three
photon, the difference being whether virtual or real energy states are
involved in the transitions.

Craig

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Michael,
>
> you probably are aware that some red dyes do just nicely when excited
> around 860 or so, although is most likely not the S1-state (Mütze et al.,
> Excitation Spectra and Brightness Optimization of Two-Photon Excited
> Probes. doi:10.1016/j.bpj.2011.12.056)
>
> Having said that, I like the possibility to tune up to 1300 nm. It gives
> you much more flexibility. e.g. exciting Eosin is not a problem, or the red
> FPs. Also I like THG a lot, usually around 1275 nm excitation, with the THG
> signal at 425 nm and SHG at 638.
>
> So far we didn't have an application where we needed a high laser line
> (e.g. 1200) and a low one (850) simultaneously. If one comes around we
> would have to tune the laser, which takes time. If this is a frequent
> request at your site, you might be better of with two lasers. If money were
> no issue, I'd suggest two lasers tunable up to 1300nm...
>
> Our old LaVision BioTech and also our new Leica SP8 both support
> sequential scanning with several wavelengths (tuning in-between), I suppose
> the others do too.
>
> I believe the fixed 1046 is useful only if you want to do CARS. Or if you
> happen to have fluors that are nicely excited at that range. But I don't
> know any. In that respect a TiSa-OPO combination may be more useful were
> you can take out 10% of a 4 W laser to image directly (e.g.834 nm) and the
> 90% to generate a long wavelength.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about cooking. One, the absorption of tissue is
> very low between 1200 and 1300. Two, the transmittance of the microscopes
> is very low, so you might get not so much out of the objective (still
> plenty to do fluorescence). Three, if you are still worried, a resonant
> scanner might be a good idea.
>
> Steffen
>
>
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> Am 07.07.2016 um 18:54 schrieb Cammer, Michael:
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>> We are considering a multiphoton purchase and a big issue is
>> illumination.  Putting budget constraints aside and thinking purely of
>> imaging non-destructively in live tissues, what would give us the most
>> flexibility for exciting multiple probes for maximum signal while minimally
>> damaging the biology?
>>
>>
>>
>> We are used to using lasers that tune from approx 700 to 1060 nm and
>> mostly use 890 to 930 nm, but this does not provide good red imaging.  If
>> money were no issue, would we be wise to get a laser such as the dual line
>> Insight or two lasers from 690 to 1080 nm?
>>
>>
>>
>> Some of the questions that have come up are:
>>
>> *         We think a laser that tunesup to 1300 nm would solve the red
>> imaging problem, but for bluer probes (CFP, GFP, etc) & second harmonics of
>> collagen would we need to use a different wavelength?  If so, how long does
>> this take and do the commercial systems support this?
>>
>> *         With a dual line laser that tunes out to 1300 nm is the fixed
>> 1046 nm line really useful?
>>
>> *         Does a dual line system cook the sample?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on this (and on specific multiphoton scopes) greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
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