Re: Assessing phototoxicity in live fluorescence imaging

Posted by Craig Brideau on
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I've noted the effect Andreas mentions quite often. I usually set the pixel
dwell time to the maximum such that the laser will spend the longest time
possible scanning out a single line, but even then the flyback can disturb
the reading. The best way is to park the mirrors in the center position,
although not all systems allow you to do that. Nikon's old C1 platform
allows for it, and ThorLabs' ThorScanLS has a park button as well. I'm not
sure about other vendors, but I'm sure others can chime in with their
experiences.

Craig

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Andreas Bruckbauer <
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> Hi Claire,
> Confocals usually blank (switch off) the beam on the return and the power
> meter averages between the on and off phases. Very slow scans are more
> accurate an I usually use high zoom. Parking the beam is the better option.
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> Best wishes
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> Andreas
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> Thank you for this great article and pointing to many great resources.
> I wanted to bring up one issue we have had when trying to work on
> different microscope and compare light density/exposure.
>
> For the CLSM microscopes when we use a power meter at the focal plan the
> power we measure depends a lot on the scan settings.
> If we park the beam as a point we get one power. If we go to a 100x100
> pixel array at zoom 1 with a 10x lens the power is different. if we change
> the scan speed the power is different again. I suspect this is related to
> how the power meter integrates the light over time and also how sensitive
> it is spatially across the sensor. We have decide to just quote our power
> as the power we measure at the power meter with set conditions and we
> detail those conditions in our materials and methods section of the paper.
> We try to use a 10x/0.3 planfluar lens with no phase optics if we can.
>
> We have stayed away from trying to calculate the power at the sample
> because a lot of assumptions have to be made. The assumptions may be
> different for wide-field versus CLSM versus light sheet versus spinning
> disk and so on.
>
> We ran into these issues when just trying to repeat measurements on two
> different confocals from two different manufacturers. It can really get
> quite complex.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on this issue? Any cleaver solutions? It is my
> thought that comparing relative powers on the same instrument is okay but
> comparing between systems will be very complex.
>
> Ideally, it would be good for the manufacturers to have some kind of laser
> power measurement in the instrument and software that is always monitored.
> Even if this is just a relative value to the actual power at the sample it
> would really improve quantitative microscopy and also help in maintenance
> and trouble shooting equipment. I'm not sure about others but this kind of
> a feature would really be a strong selling point for me and the core
> facilities I manage. In many cases these options are already built into the
> hardware for the service engineers but are not accessible to the end user.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Claire
>