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Hi Listers,
I have a related question: since every pixel of a CMOS sensor behaves a bit
differently, some of them are so much off the specs that they can be
regarded as bad pixels (hot pixels, dead pixels, etc). For example one of
our 4-megapixel front-illuminated sCMOS cameras has over 11000 bad pixels
(they are easy to spot, as they are 'corrected' by averaging neighboring
pixels, so their standard deviation is much lower that what is dictated by
Poisson statistics).
What are the specifications for the number of bad pixels? I could not find
any useful info on the websites of the camera vendors, nor the chip
manufacturer. Does anyone know how the new back-illuminated sensors compare
with the mainstream 4 megapixel CIS2020 (or SCI2020?) sensors in terms of
bad pixels?
Thanks!
Best, zdenek
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Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth
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Předmět: Re: Readout noise in sCMOS cameras
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Dear Sripad,
In a CMOS chip, every pixel has its own read amp. All of these vary slightly
in gain and DC-offset. So the raw output from a a black (no light) image
would have a noise term related to how much the offsets of the pixel amps
varied and a uniform white image would have Poisson noise on the photo
charge plus a noise term mostly related to the variation in the gains of the
pixel amplifiers.
In an sCMOS chip to these uncertainties must be added variations in the gain
and offer of the 4,000-plus separate ADCs mounted at the edges of the chip.
An effort is made to correct for the multi-amplifier and multi-digitizer
noise by “flat fielding” the raw data from the chip using data from previous
“black” and “white” images, The system works quite well but as the white
image always involves a lot of charge, its Poisson noise (sqrt of n) is
large and this can skew the results. So can using the chip at a different
temperature, dwell time or pixel clock than was used for the “black” and “
white” images. Other sources on non-“Gaussian” noise include “hot pixels”
(perhaps leaky photodiodes that are sometimes flagged and removed by the
camera system software).
Indeed, the noise spectrum in these low-light systems is almost never “
Gaussian”. Even if the electronic noise (that signal variation which becomes
evident when reading the same pixel with no light signal) seems Gaussian, it
is usually caused by Poisson Noise (Or Johnson noise) affecting the small
number of electrons that constitute the (fairly table currents passing
through the elements of the charge amplifier. And of course, at signal
levels of more than a few dozen photoelectrons, Poisson Noise on the PE
number soon dominates most other noise sources (not hot pixels).
Gaussian noise is just easier to think about, and easier to model. We should
remember that in low-light photodetectors, it is almost never appropriate.
(Poisson Noise get bigger as the signal increases!).
Best,,
JP
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On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:54 AM, S Ram <
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Hello Gerhard,
This is a slightly off-topic question in connection to your recent response
to the thread on the choice of sCMOS cameras.
You made a comment that the distribution of noise in sCMOS is not Gaussian.
Can you clarify whether you meant noise during the readout process (charge
to voltage conversion step)? If it is not Gaussian, what is the underlying
noise process? Is there any literature that you can point me to?
Thanks.
Sripad
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