Re: Perkin Elmer OPAL 7 kit experiences

Posted by Douglas Richardson on
URL: http://confocal-microscopy-list.275.s1.nabble.com/Perkin-Elmer-OPAL-7-kit-experiences-tp7588991p7588998.html

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Hi Steffen,

I had some chats with Perkin when they were developing these years ago and
they said they were doing extensive optimization to minimize FRET and
quenching between the dyes.  That said, we routinely do 6-8plex with
standard alexa and atto dyes and I've never noticed these effects to impact
the imaging to a great degree. The bigger struggle is getting somewhat
equivalent emission with limited laser lines.

-Doug

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:25 AM Steffen Dietzel <[hidden email]>
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> oh, wow, now we have a vendor that is using some value in the
> neighborhood of the actual peak of the *emission* to name dyes, just to
> add to the general confusion.
>
> Is there any reason to prefer the Opal fluors over those of vendors that
> freely publish the spectra of their dyes? Cost, maybe? From the maxima
> of the emission/excitation (not easily found at
>
> http://www.perkinelmer.de/lab-products-and-services/application-support-knowledgebase/opal/opal-multiplex-ihc-assay.html),
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> it does not seem to be something that would contain properties not
> available elsewhere.
>
> For those of you who have seen the spectra, do they look comparable to
> other dyes, concerning e.g. spectral width, or is there something that
> the vendor wants to hide?
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> Steffen
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> Am 12.12.2018 um 18:01 schrieb [hidden email]:
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> > Hi Dave,
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> > one of our confocal users here has been tinkering around with Perkin
> Elmer's OPAL kits, testing various multicolor labeling schemes. At our
> request, Perkin Elmer sent us spectral data on the OPAL 7 dyes, albeit only
> as a png image file. For our purposes this was good enough, although proper
> data would have been a lot more useful. I'll send you the image of the
> spectra, if that would be of use to you (just shoot me an email).
> >
> > In general, you will need to do quite some spectral unmixing to get
> reasonable data when using some of the 'spectrally close' dyes. Any
> pre-separation of the dyes with excitation and detection multiplexing (such
> as was suggested with the 488nm & 514nm excitation for the 520 & 540 dyes,
> respectively) will go a long way towards acquiring useful data without
> incurring horrendous spectral uncertainty. But if you don't need all 7
> channels, best avoid the close ones entirely, if you have that option.
> >
> > Hope it helps!
> > Nicolai Urban
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> > Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has had experience of using the Perkin
> Elmer & probe OPAL kit with confocal, especially with Leica spectral
> detection systems. With a fair amount of workup we have users using the
> OPAL 4 kit reliably but the OPAL 7 seems to provide significant extra
> challenges, particularly the very close overlap of the first 2 probes
> ("520" and "540" (actually 525 and 536 peaks) and the fact that no spectra
> seem to be available - the PE imaging systems would appear to rely on
> spectral unmixing using propriatory data. We have generated partial emision
> spectra for the 4 colour kit by lambda scanning but those likely wouldn't
> be good enough for unmixing purposes, which we would rather not have to
> rely on, and don't have a means of generating excitation spectra. Our best
> suggestion to date is to use the 4 colour kit on 2 consecutive serial
> sections. Any other suggestions and thoughts gratefully received.
> > Dave Johnston, Biomedical Imaging Unit, Southampton.
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