Re: IT infrastructure

Posted by Tim Feinstein on
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My current institution mostly uses cloud solutions, due to University-wide agreements with cloud providers.  As pointed out this isn't great for lab-wide aggregating and archiving.  My previous institution also had a centralized PB-scale Isilon server for rapid-access needs, plus an offline tape backup service for long term archiving.  This has a great economy of scale - and it made it very easy for us to implement OMERO, which is a fantastic image data management package!  However not many institutions can support that kind of centralized data handling.  


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On 11/22/19, 8:40 AM, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Gary Laevsky" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

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    Hi Matthieu,
   
    We just purchased 5 PB and migrated to an Isilon.
   
    We do run some applications on the server, but time there is at a premium.
   
    We also have a few fairly beefy PCs to crunch data locally.
   
    Right now, this is our short-medium-long-term solution.  Not sure if we
    will migrate to something like Glacier for long-term eventually.
   
    We are collecting cryo and light-sheet, so the numbers are getting up
    there.  We are also updating applicable systems to 10GB fiber for transfer.
   
    Interested to hear other solutions as well.
   
    Big Data is always a favorite topic at our NAMS meetings, and it's also the
    name of our light-sheet workshop next summer as well (plug intended!)!
   
    On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 7:54 AM George McNamara <[hidden email]>
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    > Hi Matthieu,
    >
    > 20 TB WD My Book Duo USB 3.1 are $700 ... orWD 20TB My Cloud EX2 Ultra
    > Network Attached Storage $999 ...
    > <
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    > may want to have one or more in your facility for backup (move month old
    > data) AND encourage P.I.'s to have in for their labs (and most PI's
    > think about their research, not about I.T. and need for data backups).
    >
    > In a previous thread I posted about what we have ... some 10 Gbe
    > computers, 10 Gbe server (40 Tb HDD RAID array), and a switch 10 Gbe
    > Ethernet (CAT7 copper wire, others pointed out SFP+ fiber optic is less
    > expensive ... future: connect our image core rooms to the fiber optic
    > switch room), some PCs with ASUS Hyper M.2 PCIe card with 4 Silicon
    > Power 2 Tb NVMe SSDs, ~$1050 for 8Tb fast local storage (PCIe x16 slot,
    > BIOS configure the slot as x4x4x4x4) ... goal is fast local acquisition
    > saving --> fast network --> best wishes.
    >
    > JHU now provides 5 Terabytes Microsoft OneDrive cloud storage per
    > employee/student ... and in principle could call I.T. and get more. So
    > far, not easily "aggregated" by lab ... I hope this gets changed so a PI
    > of a 20 person lab gets 100 Tb to start with, organized by user (say 1
    > Tb private to that user, visible to the PI) and mostly organized by
    > projects.
    >
    > enjoy,
    >
    > George
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    > On 11/22/2019 6:43 AM, VERMEREN Matthieu wrote:
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    > > Dear all,
    > >
    > > We are producing massive amount of data that legally needs to be stored
    > for up to ten years.  This data also needs to be analysed fairly quickly
    > -hence storage on local servers.  Furthermore, some software companies
    > (Huygens, Imaris...) are now offering  server-based applications for image
    > analysis -all the hard work is done on the server and your computer is just
    > a terminal.
    > >
    > >
    > > Currently, we tell users to transfer their data to NAS immediately after
    > imaging, so the microscope computers are not clogged.  Image files found on
    > these computers are fair game after a month.  We expect users to then back
    > up their files from the NAS to cloud.  All our image analysis is done on
    > fairly beefy workstations and not server based.
    > >
    > > As I'd like to future proof our IT, it would be great to know what
    > servers/storage space do you have as part of your facilities/institutes?
    > What solutions do you have for long term storage vs short to medium terms?
    > Do you have server based applications?
    > >
    > > Matthieu
    > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
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