Re: Remote group or lab meetings

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Hi everyone,

I find Webex, GoToMeeting, and Zoom equally good, AND they allow you to take control of other users' screens. That way you don't get stuck in a "Click the circle button... no, the OTHER circle button... no go back to where you were... no before that..." narration loop.

If your university/institution doesn't have a subscription so that you can generate a meeting link for one of those, Google Hangouts is really great and only requires a Google account. The downside is you can't take control of others' screens. Same with Microsoft Teams, which is great if you are sharing the virtual space with others in the Office ecosystem.

If you're showing 3D renderings during image analysis consultations, you might want to remind people on the other end of your screen sharing sessions that the rendering/interactivity they see on their end is only as good as the meeting technology allows it to be. For you, rotating a volume in your software package might be fast and fluid, but for them it probably looks laggy and has compression artifacts. Turning off webcams helps with this as well.

-Trevor

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Hi Michael,

I would tell your user that they need to either wait or agree to have you or your staff run the experiment for them. We have eliminated all new trainings and user assistance until the university reopens. If someone has an ESSENTIAL need (May graduation, grant report/deadline), then we can run the experiment for them. But, they (meaning the PI...not the student, tech or postdoc) must fill out a form requesting the service. While we want to make sure that our research community has the resources that they need for essential tasks, we are trying to balance that with our responsibility to the community at large. (Sometimes, that means helping people manage what is truly "essential".)

Hope this helps!

Terri

BTW: We use Webex and have had no problems with it...


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I find that so much of image analysis meetings involve opening files, playing with options, and drawing on paper, that I don't know how well this will work.  People need to see things on the screen and I don't see webex or zoom doing this for us, but we will certainly try!  Actually, we will try webex as the school has a license for it and prohibits our initiating zoom meetings because is is not secure.


I am calling in a a town hall today which is all voice.  I expect webex to work well for this.


However, I have a webex scheduled for today with a user who wants to image live cells at 4 degrees C.  We are going to discuss it, but I feel we need to say no until we have staff in the lab who can make this happen.  I just don't see how we can explain, by webex from home, the chambers (sample kits of Ibidi, Mattek, Greiner are on my desk at work), the home-made cooling apparatus needed with thin hose, peristaltic pump, ice bucket, etc., and then the options on the Zeiss for autofocus (free running from the touchpad or Focus Strategy window), and other pieces.  Also, how to assess condensation and prevent microscope damage.  Everything needs to be assembled and tested, but he wants to do an experiment on Friday with no staff in the lab!


As long as we don't have unrealistic expectations, these meeting tools can work.




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Hi Tim,

I am totally new to all this, but my university has a site license for Zoom.

We've done a couple of lab meetings that way and it seems decent. It works through the browser, or as a standalone app (desktop or mobile). You can share screen or windows and ask questions of the presenter either verbally or through a chat pane.

Since we are about to close down our equipment entirely, I'm hoping to use it for more advanced stuff like consultations on image analysis. We shall see.

Hope this helps,
Theresa



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    Hi folks,

    Has anyone tried switching to remote group meetings or lab meetings?  I think it would be useful for people to know what others have tried, what works well, and what works not so well.

    Thanks!


    Tim

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    University of Pittsburgh Dept. Of Developmental Biology