Re: Web app to direct user to the right microscope?

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Maybe if you would go beyond the a simple App and use a sophisticated AI system, feed it with the combined knowledge of the 1000 top microscopy specialists plus 100,000 most relevant microscopy papers, it would actually come up with novel ways of doing microscopy? 
Best wishes
Andreas




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One resource I do steer a lot of researchers to who want to learn more
about microscopy is the Molecular Expressions Microscopy Primer site.  The
descriptions and interactive tutorials are immensely helpful in helping a
lay-person understand how all the different imaging modalities work, and
what all those knobs and switches actually do.  I can say as a graduate
student who knew nothing about microscopes but whose research was heavily
reliant on getting a LSCM to work at the limits of its capacity, this site
was invaluable.  Once someone graduates past that, the "Imaging: A
Laboratory Manual" from Cold Spring Harbor is another excellent resource.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:48 PM Cammer, Michael <
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> Even if a sophisticated AI system could capture all the meeting and in lab
> experiments I have done over the last 30 years and score them, it would not
> have enough data for an app.  I bet if it included yor experiences too, it
> wouldn't be enough.
>
> Also, one of the replies says, "[I]n my experience users often don't even
> know how to phrase what it is that they want to do in terms of what the
> microscope is capable of[.]"  They don't understand what microscopy can
> do.  They don't know what questions to ask.
> Often they need help with the biology too.
>
> We would have to give them a significant education just to understand the
> app.
>
> And the people who do understand microscopy can read the webpages and ask
> a few follow-up questions to see what we offer.  Maybe they teach us stuff
> too.
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> Dear Matthieu,
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> Even though I have email correspondence with equipment users prior to
> their training session, I am still often surprised when they show up with
> their samples.
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> For live imaging, I always meet with the person face-to-face before
> booking any equipment so that I can determine which system is best for them
> to start with and there are so many questions that need to be
> asked/answered.
>
> Also, we have such a broad range of research to support in our facility,
> from biological/biomedical/pharmacy to materials/geology, etc. that it
> would be very hard to cover all options and possibilities. Plus there is
> always the analysis to consider and we try to take the reverse view as per
> the paper that Teng-Leong alluded to and advertised to this list a while
> ago.
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> I do have people asking to learn particular instrumentation as they can
> see all of our machines on our website. But I still ask the questions as
> sometimes they will ask to learn an invert (or upright) when their sample
> is not suitable. For example, the very confident person who requested the
> upright and turned up with a multiwell plate...
>
> I think our team of experts is still the best option for helping users
> decide and in a timely way. We are also the ones who will be training and
> supporting them so we do need to know what is coming!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacqui
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> Dear all,
>
> I've been repetitively asked by some users if I could build a Web app that
> would guide them through a series of questions (like a personality test) to
> the ideal microscope(s) for their experiment. Does anyone have experience
> with this? Which app have you used?
>
> Obviously, I'd rather they come and talk but maybe I'm just scary :-)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Matthieu
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