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Hi everybody.

This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe there
is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available pulse
generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising time.
I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
hint.
Thanks.
Petro.
Postdoctoral Fellow
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Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry of the CAS
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What is the make of this 10V input driver -what is the input impedance? Do you have its circuit diagram so that it can be modified?

Mark B. Cannell. Ph.D. FRSNZ FISHR
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On 8/05/21, 8:58 PM, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Khoroshyy Petro" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

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    Hi everybody.

    This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
    better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe there
    is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
    I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available pulse
    generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising time.
    I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
    impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
    I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
    hint.
    Thanks.
    Petro.

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There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933

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> Hi everybody.
>
> This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
> better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe there
> is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
> I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available pulse
> generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising time.
> I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
> impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
> I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
> hint.
> Thanks.
> Petro.
>


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Hi Mark
Unfortunately modification of the circuit is not an option. We have the
generator temporary id we will have to return it.
Best.
Petro.

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> What is the make of this 10V input driver -what is the input impedance? Do
> you have its circuit diagram so that it can be modified?
>
> Mark B. Cannell. Ph.D. FRSNZ FISHR
> Department of Physiology, Pharmacology & Neuroscience
> School of Medical Sciences
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> On 8/05/21, 8:58 PM, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Khoroshyy
> Petro" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]>
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>
>     Hi everybody.
>
>     This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might
> be
>     better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
> there
>     is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
>     I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
> pulse
>     generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
> time.
>     I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
>     impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
>     I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or
> give a
>     hint.
>     Thanks.
>     Petro.
>
>
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Thanks.
I will have a look on the shifter.
I am a bit lost by analog control?
Do you mean setting up the HT by control voltage?
Thanks.
Petro.

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> There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
> https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
> was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
> faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
> normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
> op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
> bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
>
> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:58 PM Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
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> posting.
> > *****
> >
> > Hi everybody.
> >
> > This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
> > better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
> there
> > is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
> > I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
> pulse
> > generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
> time.
> > I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
> > impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
> > I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
> > hint.
> > Thanks.
> > Petro.
> >
>
>
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> Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
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> Fax (510) 643-6791
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Dear Petro,

Would an amplifier solve your problem? If you buy an electronic amplifier that amplifies your driving voltage 2-3 times (from 5V to 10V or higher) you should be able to drive your pockels cell. Unless I’m thinking too easy here. You can buy suitable amplifiers from e.g. Minicircuits.

Best,
Nino

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> Am 09.05.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>:
>
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> *****
>
> Thanks.
> I will have a look on the shifter.
> I am a bit lost by analog control?
> Do you mean setting up the HT by control voltage?
> Thanks.
> Petro.
>
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021, 23:12 Benjamin Smith <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> *****
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>> *****
>>
>> There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
>> https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
>> was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
>> faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
>> normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
>> op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
>> bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
>>
>> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933
>>
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:58 PM Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *****
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>> posting.
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Hi everybody.
>>>
>>> This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
>>> better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
>> there
>>> is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
>>> I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
>> pulse
>>> generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
>> time.
>>> I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
>>> impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
>>> I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
>>> hint.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Petro.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Benjamin E. Smith, Ph. D.
>> Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
>> University of California, Berkeley
>> 195 Weill Hall
>> Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
>> Tel  (510) 642-9712
>> Fax (510) 643-6791
>> e-mail: [hidden email]
>>
>> https://vision.berkeley.edu/faculty/core-grants-nei/core-grant-microscopic-imaging/
>>
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Maybe but it apparently needs a slew rate > 10V/us into what may be a 50 ohm impedance. This is RF circuitry. Perhaps the manufacturer can give some more details as it's hard to define what's needed on the basis of the supplied info. IMHO

Cheers

Mark B. Cannell. Ph.D. FRSNZ FISHR
Department of Physiology, Pharmacology & Neuroscience
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    Dear Petro,

    Would an amplifier solve your problem? If you buy an electronic amplifier that amplifies your driving voltage 2-3 times (from 5V to 10V or higher) you should be able to drive your pockels cell. Unless I’m thinking too easy here. You can buy suitable amplifiers from e.g. Minicircuits.

    Best,
    Nino

    Von meinem iPhone gesendet

    > Am 09.05.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>:
    >
    > *****
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    > *****
    >
    > Thanks.
    > I will have a look on the shifter.
    > I am a bit lost by analog control?
    > Do you mean setting up the HT by control voltage?
    > Thanks.
    > Petro.
    >
    >> On Sat, May 8, 2021, 23:12 Benjamin Smith <[hidden email]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
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    >>
    >> There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
    >> https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
    >> was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
    >> faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
    >> normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
    >> op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
    >> bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
    >>
    >> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933
    >>
    >> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:58 PM Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> *****
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    >> posting.
    >>> *****
    >>>
    >>> Hi everybody.
    >>>
    >>> This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
    >>> better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
    >> there
    >>> is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
    >>> I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
    >> pulse
    >>> generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
    >> time.
    >>> I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
    >>> impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
    >>> I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
    >>> hint.
    >>> Thanks.
    >>> Petro.
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
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    >> Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
    >> University of California, Berkeley
    >> 195 Weill Hall
    >> Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
    >> Tel  (510) 642-9712
    >> Fax (510) 643-6791
    >> e-mail: [hidden email]
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What brand is the driver?  Is this modulation control or just on/off?

Mark B. Cannell. Ph.D. FRSNZ FISHR
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    Thanks.
    I will have a look on the shifter.
    I am a bit lost by analog control?
    Do you mean setting up the HT by control voltage?
    Thanks.
    Petro.

    On Sat, May 8, 2021, 23:12 Benjamin Smith <[hidden email]>
    wrote:

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    >
    > There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
    > https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
    > was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
    > faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
    > normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
    > op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
    > bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
    >
    > https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933
    >
    > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:58 PM Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > *****
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    > posting.
    > > *****
    > >
    > > Hi everybody.
    > >
    > > This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
    > > better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
    > there
    > > is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
    > > I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
    > pulse
    > > generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
    > time.
    > > I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
    > > impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
    > > I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
    > > hint.
    > > Thanks.
    > > Petro.
    > >
    >
    >
    > --
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    > Imaging Specialist, Vision Science
    > University of California, Berkeley
    > 195 Weill Hall
    > Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
    > Tel  (510) 642-9712
    > Fax (510) 643-6791
    > e-mail: [hidden email]
    >
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For these tasks an SRS SR560 comes in very handy, which can also be tailored for bandwidth. (No commercial interest, just a really useful multi-use lab accessory). But there are other excellent choices, too.

Best,
Nino

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> Am 09.05.2021 um 14:24 schrieb Mark Cannell <[hidden email]>:
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>
> Maybe but it apparently needs a slew rate > 10V/us into what may be a 50 ohm impedance. This is RF circuitry. Perhaps the manufacturer can give some more details as it's hard to define what's needed on the basis of the supplied info. IMHO
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark B. Cannell. Ph.D. FRSNZ FISHR
> Department of Physiology, Pharmacology & Neuroscience
> School of Medical Sciences
> University Walk
> Bristol BS8 1TD
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
> On 9/05/21, 10:36 AM, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Nino Karpf" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:
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>
>    Dear Petro,
>
>    Would an amplifier solve your problem? If you buy an electronic amplifier that amplifies your driving voltage 2-3 times (from 5V to 10V or higher) you should be able to drive your pockels cell. Unless I’m thinking too easy here. You can buy suitable amplifiers from e.g. Minicircuits.
>
>    Best,
>    Nino
>
>    Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
>> Am 09.05.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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>> *****
>>
>> Thanks.
>> I will have a look on the shifter.
>> I am a bit lost by analog control?
>> Do you mean setting up the HT by control voltage?
>> Thanks.
>> Petro.
>>
>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021, 23:12 Benjamin Smith <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *****
>>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
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>>> *****
>>>
>>> There are submicrosecond level shifters such as this:
>>> https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/mc14504b-d.pdf, and if the impedance
>>> was high enough on the input you could even use a high side driver for even
>>> faster switching speeds.  However, if you are driving a Pockels cell (which
>>> normally requires analog instead of digital control) I would just use an
>>> op-amp voltage multiplier.  A unity gain stable op-amp would be the easiest
>>> bet, and one like this would be plenty fast:
>>>
>>> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/analog-devices-inc/LT6200CS6-TRMPBF/1115933
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:58 PM Khoroshyy Petro <[hidden email]>
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>>>> Hi everybody.
>>>>
>>>> This question is not directly about confocal microscopy but, and might be
>>>> better addressed on some electrical engineering forum. Bit i believe
>>> there
>>>> is someone who can guide me in the right direction.
>>>> I need to drive a Pockel cell driver with 10 V pulses, but available
>>> pulse
>>>> generator has max 5V output. I need pulses with submicrosecond rising
>>> time.
>>>> I have searched for level shifters chips with needed bandwidth and
>>>> impedance but all of what I found work up to 5.5 volts.
>>>> I wonder if someone can recommend some solution for the problem or give a
>>>> hint.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Petro.
>>>>
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Re: 5 to 10V level shifter?

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Hi Pedro,

I had a similar problem with an old AOTF which needed 10V but my homebrew controller based on an Arduino microcontroller would only deliver 5V max.
As a workaround I used a simple circuit with the TL084CN op-amp from Texas instrument, combined with the d/a converter  MCP4822. So the Arduino now deliver 0-5V via the MCP4822 which is translated to 0-10V by the op-amp.
Time resolution should be around 10µs but I never tested it.

Regards

JP
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I was working on a high speed mux and came across this guy:
https://rocelec.widen.net/view/pdf/c2zkd9yjaz/INSLS10003-1.pdf?t.download=true&u=5oefqw

This would be perfect as it can convert 3V and 5V logic to up to 15V logic
and has a bandwidth of up to 40MHz with a 2A peak driving current.

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 2:30 AM Jan-Peter Siebrasse <[hidden email]>
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> Hi Pedro,
>
> I had a similar problem with an old AOTF which needed 10V but my homebrew
> controller based on an Arduino microcontroller would only deliver 5V max.
> As a workaround I used a simple circuit with the TL084CN op-amp from Texas
> instrument, combined with the d/a converter  MCP4822. So the Arduino now
> deliver 0-5V via the MCP4822 which is translated to 0-10V by the op-amp.
> Time resolution should be around 10µs but I never tested it.
>
> Regards
>
> JP
>


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Thanks Benjamin.
That looks like what I need.
At the end the producer said they will adjust the output.
Thanks to everyone for suggestions.
Best.
Petro.



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> I was working on a high speed mux and came across this guy:
>
> https://rocelec.widen.net/view/pdf/c2zkd9yjaz/INSLS10003-1.pdf?t.download=true&u=5oefqw
>
> This would be perfect as it can convert 3V and 5V logic to up to 15V logic
> and has a bandwidth of up to 40MHz with a 2A peak driving current.
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 2:30 AM Jan-Peter Siebrasse <
> [hidden email]>
> wrote:
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> > *****
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> posting.
> > *****
> >
> > Hi Pedro,
> >
> > I had a similar problem with an old AOTF which needed 10V but my homebrew
> > controller based on an Arduino microcontroller would only deliver 5V max.
> > As a workaround I used a simple circuit with the TL084CN op-amp from
> Texas
> > instrument, combined with the d/a converter  MCP4822. So the Arduino now
> > deliver 0-5V via the MCP4822 which is translated to 0-10V by the op-amp.
> > Time resolution should be around 10µs but I never tested it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > JP
> >
>
>
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> 195 Weill Hall
> Berkeley, CA  94720-3200
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