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Hello,
Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
DAPI, AF488, AF555 & AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
405 up to 635 nm.
Thanks,
Simon
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** Vendor Response **

I've imaged up to 6 Qdots at a time on the same sample using confocal.  Qdot nanocrystals will all excite at one low excitation (UV or 405nm), but have reasonably tight emission wavelengths, which allows better multiplexability.

Cheers,

Jason


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Hello,
Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
DAPI, AF488, AF555 & AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
405 up to 635 nm.
Thanks,
Simon
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Dyomics has some large stokes shift dyes that absorb in the green and
emit in the red/far red.  We looked into them a while ago for this
purpose but never had a user who was sufficiently motivated to test
them, so I don't know how well they work.  See
http://www.dyomics.com/dy-480xl.html?&L=1%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_fabrik

I think there may be another company with large stokes shift dyes, but I
can't remember who.

Kurt

On 11/4/2011 9:36 AM, Simon Walker wrote:

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> Hello,
> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
> DAPI, AF488, AF555&  AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
> 405 up to 635 nm.
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
Craig Brideau Craig Brideau
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We have, but using spectral confocal to separate out the different dyes.

Craig



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> Hello,
> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
> DAPI, AF488, AF555 & AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in
> the
> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
> 405 up to 635 nm.
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
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Commercial response:

Hi Simon,
 
Quite recently in the R+D lab over here we've been routinely 3D imaging Invitrorgen Alexa750, Anaspec HiLyte 750, or Li-Cor Dye800CW (no commercial interest for any of these probes) with a Yokogawa CSU spinning disk upgraded with our Borealis illumination system. This is possible since Borealis extends the range of possible wavelengths (UV and NIR) that can be passed through the CSU (730 nm or 785 nm laser excitation, >790 nm emission for the dyes just mentioned). While I haven't tried imaging a penta-labeled sample, it should be possible with the right set of emission filters and dichroic filter.

We have yet to build a 5-band dichroic but what you could do in the meantime is use two different dichroic mirrors and switch them when needed for the appropriate channels. One of the other parts of the Borealis upgrade for the CSU is a motorized filter wheel and dichroic slider. All of the laser and filter combinations can be automated in software. If you were willing, the user in question could send us a penta-labled sample with the 5th label emitting somewhere above 750 nm and we could try imaging it with the system we have in house. Contact me offline if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
John Oreopoulos
Research Assistant
Spectral Applied Research
Richmond Hill, Ontario
Canada
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On 2011-11-04, at 4:18 PM, Craig Brideau wrote:

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> We have, but using spectral confocal to separate out the different dyes.
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> Craig
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> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Simon Walker
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>> Hello,
>> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
>> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
>> DAPI, AF488, AF555 & AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in
>> the
>> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
>> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
>> 405 up to 635 nm.
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>>
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Hi Simon,

Spectral karyotyping is is now well past 700 publications since 1996
with 5 fluorophores plus DAPI. The 5 are (or are similar to): Spectrum
Green (Rhodamine 110, Alexa Fluor 488, DyLight 488), Spectrum Orange
(Cy3, Cy3B, Alexa Fluor 555, Alexa Fluor 568), Texas Red (Alexa Fluor
594), Cy5, Cy5.5. A spectral confocal ought to be able to match the
performance of the SKY system.

Tsurui et al used the SKY system for 7-color immunofluorescence (no DNA
counterstain here):

    J Histochem Cytochem. <#> 2000 May;48(5):653-62.


      Seven-color fluorescence imaging of tissue samples based on
      Fourier spectroscopy and singular value decomposition.

    Tsurui H </pubmed?term=%22Tsurui%20H%22%5BAuthor%5D>, Nishimura H
    </pubmed?term=%22Nishimura%20H%22%5BAuthor%5D>, Hattori S
    </pubmed?term=%22Hattori%20S%22%5BAuthor%5D>, Hirose S
    </pubmed?term=%22Hirose%20S%22%5BAuthor%5D>, Okumura K
    </pubmed?term=%22Okumura%20K%22%5BAuthor%5D>, Shirai T
    </pubmed?term=%22Shirai%20T%22%5BAuthor%5D>.


          Source

    Department of Pathology, Juntendo University School of Medicine,
    Tokyo, Japan. [hidden email]


          Abstract

    Seven-color analyses of immunofluorescence-stained tissue samples
    were accomplished using Fourier spectroscopy-based hyperspectral
    imaging and singular value decomposition. This system consists of a
    combination of seven fluorescent dyes, three filtersets, an
    epifluorescence microscope, a spectral imaging system, a computer
    for data acquisition, and data analysis software. The spectra of all
    pixels in a multicolor image were taken simultaneously using a
    Sagnac type interferometer. The spectra were deconvolved to estimate
    the contribution of each component dye, and individual dye images
    were constructed based on the intensities of assigned signals. To
    obtain mixed spectra, three filter sets, i.e., Bl, Gr, and Rd for
    *Alexa488 and Alexa532*, for* Alexa546, Alexa568, and Alexa594*, and
    for *Cy5 and Cy5.5*, respectively, were used for simultaneous
    excitation of two or three dyes. These fluorophores have
    considerable spectral overlap which precludes their separation by
    conventional analysis. We resolved their relative contributions to
    the fluorescent signal by a method involving linear unmixing based
    on singular value decomposition of the matrices consisting of dye
    spectra. Analyses of mouse thymic tissues stained with seven
    different fluorescent dyes provided clear independent images, and
    any combination of two or three individual dye images could be used
    for constructing multicolor images. PMID: 10769049.


Some simple suggestions for adding one fluorophore to your list -
consider any one of:

* Abberior STAR 440SX ...
http://www.abberior.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90&Itemid=88 


* Lucifer Yellow
* Pacific Orange
* DyLight 405

* Alexa Fluor 594 ... if in a different location than 555 and 647 ...
different as shown by single staining and FMO (fluorescence minus one)
controls.

Brilliant Violet 421 ... http://www.biolegend.com/brilliantviolet   see
also www.sirigen.com and www.i-cyt.com see  
http://www.i-cyt.com/icyt_whats_new.php and
http://www.i-cyt.com/pdf/BV_Brochure_080811.pdf  (keep going to page 5
to check out BV570  ... currently the acceptor is Cy3 [poor QY] but
hopefully they will switch to Cy3B [7x better QY than Cy3, at least in
solution] or an Alexa or DyLight etc dye).

from http://www.biolegend.com/brilliantviolet

    Brilliant Violet 421™ has an extinction coefficient of 2,500,000
    M^-1 cm^-1 at 405 nm, an aqueous solution quantum yield of 65 ± 5%
    and solubility in excess of 50 mg/mL in PBS. The extinction
    coefficient contributes to its superior brightness compared to
    Pacific Blue™, which has an extinction coefficient of 30,000 M^-1
    cm^-1 .

    High Sensitivity Fluorescence™ polymers can also be modified with
    functional groups to produce high stokes shift emissions. Brilliant
    Violet 570™ is such a variant of the Brilliant Violet 421™ polymer,
    emitting maximally at 570 nm. The figures below provide the
    absorbance and emission spectra of BV421™ and BV570™, respectively.

BioLegend anti-CD4-BV421 worked great on my Zeiss Axiovert 200M
microscope (FluoArc Hg lamp, ORCA-II ERG and by eye) on PBMC's (specimen
sent to me by BioLegend). Photobleached farily quickly on my Leica SP5
confocal microscope (right after a 50 mW 405 nm laser was installed
under service contract), but I did get a nice optical section before
bleaching. I have encouraged folks from all three companies to work on
finding an optimized mounting medium for fluorescence microscopy. Their
focus right now is on the flow cytometry market, so feel free to take
the initiative.


Sincerely,


George
p.s. full disclosure: I am a co-inventor on three spectral unmixing
patents from the SKY manufacturer - I do not expect to see any royalties
from these. Donations welcome.
p.p.s. Jeremy - I was not teasing about colocalization being dead. If
you have any more manuscripts on colocalization, I suggest you get them
published before all the reviewers and editors catch up to me.


On 11/4/2011 12:36 PM, Simon Walker wrote:

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> Hello,
> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
> DAPI, AF488, AF555&  AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
> 405 up to 635 nm.
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>    


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University of Miami
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Simon,

on a Leica SP5 you can do it for example with Dapi (405), Alexa 488, Cy3
(543 or 561), Texas Red (594) and Cy5 (633).


Quantum dots certainly are an option, but personaly I don't have a lot
experince with them.

Steffen


On 04.11.2011 17:36, Simon Walker wrote:

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> Hello,
> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
> DAPI, AF488, AF555&  AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
> 405 up to 635 nm.
> Thanks,
> Simon
>


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Thanks to everyone who's responded to this for all the useful suggestions.  I think we'll try throwing AF594 into the mix as a relatively easy option and take it from there.
Simon



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Simon,

on a Leica SP5 you can do it for example with Dapi (405), Alexa 488, Cy3
(543 or 561), Texas Red (594) and Cy5 (633).


Quantum dots certainly are an option, but personaly I don't have a lot
experince with them.

Steffen


On 04.11.2011 17:36, Simon Walker wrote:

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> Hello,
> Has anyone successfully imaged 5 colours in the same sample with their
> confocal?  We have a user who is keen to do this.  They are already using
> DAPI, AF488, AF555&  AF647 so if there's something that maybe excites in the
> blue and emits in the red/far red?  Or if that's not possible a completely
> different set of 5.  We have the usual range of excitation wavelengths from
> 405 up to 635 nm.
> Thanks,
> Simon
>


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Hi Simon,
With 5 colors I personally think that in most cases this will require linear
unmixing algorithms. Many scopes nowadays have implemented that already in
the acquisition software.

martin
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Hello
You can use Chromeo 494. It has a long stokes shift (Em 628nm) that allow you
to excite two dyes (any 488 et chromeo494) with the same 488 excitation laser.
Hope this help.
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There is another possibility - use lifetime imaging to distinguish
between dyes with similar spectra but different lifetimes.  Carlsson, K.
and Liljeborg, A., 2009.  Confocal fluorescence microscopy using
intensity-modulated multiple-wavelength scanning (IMS): evaluation of
results from spectral and lifetime imaging. Proceedings of SPIE 3261, 30

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Hello
You can use Chromeo 494. It has a long stokes shift (Em 628nm) that
allow you
to excite two dyes (any 488 et chromeo494) with the same 488 excitation
laser.
Hope this help.

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