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Hi everyone!

Here is an emergency.

I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.

The software was down suddenly.
So I quit it and tried to restart it.
Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.

I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!

Is there anyone here can help?
Zoltan Zoltan
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As far as I can remember two years back when I was still working on a Zeiss system (LSM 5), there is indeed a door just above the floor level on the vertical side of the main controller unit.   It should be facing you if you are sitting in front of the computer screen.  The reset button is behind it.  I never tried to do analysis data while collecting data, and I'm still not... 
Hope it'll work.

Zoltan



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Hi everyone!

Here is an emergency.

I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.

The software was down suddenly.
So I quit it and tried to restart it.
Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.

I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!

Is there anyone here can help?



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Thanks for the quick reply.
I will check it out.
 
 
Maybe there is a misunderstand about my previous post.
I want to say I did the data collecting before doing ananlysis.
Just did not turn off all the laser
So I am not doing these two things at the same time.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Thanks a lot!
 
Yi
 


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Subject: Re: Ask for help about LSM 510
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 5:44 PM

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As far as I can remember two years back when I was still working on a Zeiss system (LSM 5), there is indeed a door just above the floor level on the vertical side of the main controller unit.   It should be facing you if you are sitting in front of the computer screen.  The reset button is behind it.  I never tried to do analysis data while collecting data, and I'm still not... 
Hope it'll work.

Zoltan



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Hi everyone!

Here is an emergency.

I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.

The software was down suddenly.
So I quit it and tried to restart it.
Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.

I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!

Is there anyone here can help?



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Zoltan Cseresnyes
Facility manager, Imaging Suite

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simple
I think that you may have been moving too quickly with pushing all of
your button!
make sure that it is connecting before you ask it to scan
Just exit and reboot and you will be fine!

Yi Zheng wrote:

>Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>
>Hi everyone!
>
>Here is an emergency.
>
>I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
>runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.
>
>The software was down suddenly.
>So I quit it and tried to restart it.
>Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
>system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
>rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
>But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.
>
>I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!
>
>Is there anyone here can help?
>
>
>  
>
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I did reboot the computer. It did not help.
 
It showed the same message again!
Almost cry!
And still can not find the reset button.
 
Is it possible that the software requires turning on the computer before LSM system?
One of old confocal system I used required such things.
If you ignite laser first, the software would not be opened.
 
The technician did not come today.
Hopefully he will come tomorrow.
 


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Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 6:16 PM

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simple
I think that you may have been moving too quickly with pushing all of 
your button!
make sure that it is connecting before you ask it to scan
Just exit and reboot and you will be fine!

Yi Zheng wrote:

>Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>
>Hi everyone!
>
>Here is an emergency.
>
>I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is 
>runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.
>
>The software was down suddenly.
>So I quit it and tried to restart it. 
>Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller.
If the 
>system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the
electronics 
>rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
>But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.
>
>I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!
>
>Is there anyone here can help?
>
>
>  
>

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I'm not a Zeiss expert but I'd suggest that powering down the entire system
would have an equivalent effect to pressing any reset button.  Then turn it
on following the normal sequence (which on most confocals means first
booting the computer, then turning on the microscope, scanhead and lasers
and finally starting the control software). 
 
                                                                                         Guy

Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology
by Guy Cox    CRC Press / Taylor & Francis
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From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of yee z
Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 10:18 AM
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I did reboot the computer. It did not help.
 
It showed the same message again!
Almost cry!
And still can not find the reset button.
 
Is it possible that the software requires turning on the computer before LSM system?
One of old confocal system I used required such things.
If you ignite laser first, the software would not be opened.
 
The technician did not come today.
Hopefully he will come tomorrow.
 


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From: Vickery Trinkaus-Randall <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Ask for help about LSM 510
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 6:16 PM

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simple
I think that you may have been moving too quickly with pushing all of 
your button!
make sure that it is connecting before you ask it to scan
Just exit and reboot and you will be fine!

Yi Zheng wrote:

>Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>
>Hi everyone!
>
>Here is an emergency.
>
>I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is 
>runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.
>
>The software was down suddenly.
>So I quit it and tried to restart it. 
>Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller.
If the 
>system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the
electronics 
>rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
>But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.
>
>I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!
>
>Is there anyone here can help?
>
>
>  
>


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Hi Yi-

I have experienced the "Failed to connect to real time controller" problem
twice in the past two months on my Zeiss 510 Meta.

There is a secondary computer or controller in the large module that
contains the lasers and electronics.  This secondary computer is connected
to the Windows computer by an internet cable.  When you start the Windows
program, you should see at the bottom right of the monitor on one of the
icons a message indicating "Real Time Connection/Speed 1Gbps/Status
Connected"

The first time I experienced the "Failed to connect to real time
controller", the icon on the Windows screen also indicated that the Real
Time Connection was Not Connected.  That time I could not get the system to
work without a service call.

The second time, the icon on the Windows screen indicated that the Real Time
Connection was still Connected at 1Gbps.  If I shut down the system for
30-60 minutes (5 or 10 minutes wouldn't work), then I could get the system
back up and working.  It was as though there was a heating issue or
something.

In both cases, the final solution was for Zeiss to replace that secondary
computer in the electronics module.  The system worked fine after that.

Hope this helps-
Melinda

Melinda Frame, PhD
Michigan State University
Center for Advanced Microscopy
B7 CIPS
East Lansing, MI  48824
517-432-2327
[hidden email]

Yi Zheng writes:

> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal 
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Here is an emergency.
>
> I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
> runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.
>
> The software was down suddenly.
> So I quit it and tried to restart it.
> Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
> system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
> rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
> But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.
>
> I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!
>
> Is there anyone here can help?
>
 
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Dear Melinda,
 
Thanks for your input.
 
I fixed the problem by reseting the RTC. But I did notice when I restart the program there was a message indicating "Real time connection connected" on the bottom right of the monitor. And after that everything works.
 
I will keep your suggestions in mind, in case I might have the same problem in the future.
 
 
Thanks,
 
Yi
 
 


--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Melinda Kay Frame <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 9:32 AM

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Hi Yi- 

I have experienced the "Failed to connect to real time controller"
problem 
twice in the past two months on my Zeiss 510 Meta. 

There is a secondary computer or controller in the large module that 
contains the lasers and electronics.  This secondary computer is connected 
to the Windows computer by an internet cable.  When you start the Windows 
program, you should see at the bottom right of the monitor on one of the 
icons a message indicating "Real Time Connection/Speed 1Gbps/Status 
Connected" 

The first time I experienced the "Failed to connect to real time 
controller", the icon on the Windows screen also indicated that the Real 
Time Connection was Not Connected.  That time I could not get the system to 
work without a service call. 

The second time, the icon on the Windows screen indicated that the Real Time 
Connection was still Connected at 1Gbps.  If I shut down the system for 
30-60 minutes (5 or 10 minutes wouldn't work), then I could get the system 
back up and working.  It was as though there was a heating issue or 
something. 

In both cases, the final solution was for Zeiss to replace that secondary 
computer in the electronics module.  The system worked fine after that. 

Hope this helps-
Melinda 

Melinda Frame, PhD
Michigan State University
Center for Advanced Microscopy
B7 CIPS
East Lansing, MI  48824
517-432-2327
[hidden email] 

Yi Zheng writes: 

> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal 
> 
> Hi everyone! 
> 
> Here is an emergency. 
> 
> I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is 
> runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data. 
> 
> The software was down suddenly.
> So I quit it and tried to restart it. 
> Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller.
If the 
> system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the
electronics 
> rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
> But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it. 
> 
> I called Zeiss, but their system is down too! 
> 
> Is there anyone here can help? 
> 
 

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Hey Folks --
 
    It could be a heating issue.  We at times get the same error on our 510 with the same fix -- rebooting the real-time controller with the red panic button behind the hidden door.  Sometime it takes a full shutdown and a bit of waiting before the restart.  My Zeiss service tech pointed out a filter behind the grill next to that hidden door.  If it gets clogged the system can overheat.  Easy to do but hard to remember to clean it once in a while. 
 
    Martin's right -- it's awesome that folks have such ready access to literally a world of help!
 
Be peace!  Greg.
 
Greg Martin
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University of Washington
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Seattle, WA 98195-7290
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From: "Melinda Kay Frame" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:32 AM
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>
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> Hi Yi-
>
> I have experienced the "Failed to connect to real time controller" problem
> twice in the past two months on my Zeiss 510 Meta.
>
> There is a secondary computer or controller in the large module that
> contains the lasers and electronics.  This secondary computer is connected
> to the Windows computer by an internet cable.  When you start the Windows
> program, you should see at the bottom right of the monitor on one of the
> icons a message indicating "Real Time Connection/Speed 1Gbps/Status
> Connected"
>
> The first time I experienced the "Failed to connect to real time
> controller", the icon on the Windows screen also indicated that the Real
> Time Connection was Not Connected.  That time I could not get the system to
> work without a service call.
>
> The second time, the icon on the Windows screen indicated that the Real Time
> Connection was still Connected at 1Gbps.  If I shut down the system for
> 30-60 minutes (5 or 10 minutes wouldn't work), then I could get the system
> back up and working.  It was as though there was a heating issue or
> something.
>
> In both cases, the final solution was for Zeiss to replace that secondary
> computer in the electronics module.  The system worked fine after that.
>
> Hope this helps-
> Melinda
>
> Melinda Frame, PhD
> Michigan State University
> Center for Advanced Microscopy
> B7 CIPS
> East Lansing, MI  48824
> 517-432-2327
>
[hidden email]
>
> Yi Zheng writes:
>
>> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>>
http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Here is an emergency.
>>
>> I am doing my data analysis on zeiss LSM 510 while the whole system is
>> runing. I mean all laser are on and I was collecting data.
>>
>> The software was down suddenly.
>> So I quit it and tried to restart it.
>> Then I got the message like "Fail to connect to realtime controller. If the
>> system is running open the door "reset RTC" on the front of the electronics
>> rack. press the "Reset" button and wait 30 seconds.
>> But the problem is I can not find any door or reset button behind it.
>>
>> I called Zeiss, but their system is down too!
>>
>> Is there anyone here can help?
>>

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