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Andrew Lindsay Andrew Lindsay
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Broken fan on argon laser

Dear List,

The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working. The
laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself off,
presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without replacing the entire
laser unit.

Many thanks in advance,
Andrew
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Re: Broken fan on argon laser

Something similar happened to us recently. Have you tried a different power supply?

Mike

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From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew Lindsay [[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:11 AM
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Subject: Broken fan on argon laser

Dear List,

The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working. The
laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself off,
presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without replacing the entire
laser unit.

Many thanks in advance,
Andrew
mmodel mmodel
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Re: Broken fan on argon laser

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Just some more details: Our power supply (melles Griot) has a parallel-type connector with a plug (may not be using correct terminology). This plug must be well connected for the laser to operate properly. If it is loose then you may experience fan shut-down and other troubles.

Mike

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From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew Lindsay [[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:11 AM
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Subject: Broken fan on argon laser

Dear List,

The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working. The
laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself off,
presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without replacing the entire
laser unit.

Many thanks in advance,
Andrew
R. Eric King R. Eric King
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Hello Andrew (& Listers),
 
The fan is a replaceable part, and yes the plasma tube has a thermal switch on the cooling fins located at the anode end. The tube usually breaks before the $0.50 thermal switch does... so I would find a fan quickly. If you need help locating the correct replacement, we can steer you in the right direction - please let me know which model laser you have on your machine...
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Lindsay" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:11 AM
Subject: Broken fan on argon laser

Dear List,

The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working. The
laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself off,
presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without replacing the entire
laser unit.

Many thanks in advance,
Andrew
Timothy Feinstein Timothy Feinstein
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Re: Broken fan on argon laser

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Hi Andrew,

If the fan is a physically separate part that is linked to the laser  
unit by a power cable and an air handling tube, then my former lab  
dealt with the same problem a few years ago.  Before replacing the fan  
(~$400 as an aftermarket part), make sure to check the relevant fuses  
in the laser power supply ($5 at Radio Shack).  Replacing the fan unit  
will not fix a blown fuse. Melles Griot should provide you with  
diagrams to find the appropriate fuse for your particular model.

One caution - It can be fiendishly awkward to get at the fuses in some  
M-G power supply boards.  You might wan an experienced computer  
surgeon around to consult.

Good luck and all the best,


TF

On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Andrew Lindsay wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working.  
> The
> laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself  
> off,
> presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
> enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without  
> replacing the entire
> laser unit.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Andrew
Don Elsmore Don Elsmore
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Dear Andrew,
 
Yes your Laser is shutting down due to overheating!
Don't run the laser too long with no fan as it will damage the laser tube.
 
I would definitely check fuses in power supply or replace the laser Power supply if you have a spare, but I have had the umbilical cord go bad and cause the laser to run even when the fan is not working.
 
The Fan motor could also be burnt out and need replacing.
 
Do you have a fan on top of the laser or the remote cooling package?

Regards

Don Elsmore
President/Field Service Engineer
 
Aventeck LLC
10112 Owen Brown Road,
Columbia, MD 21044
Cell: 443-745-2087
Fax: 410-715-1111
www.aventeck.com



 

> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:11:58 -0500
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Broken fan on argon laser
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Dear List,
>
> The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working. The
> laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself off,
> presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
> enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without replacing the entire
> laser unit.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Andrew


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Jennifer Clarke Jennifer Clarke
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Re: Broken fan on argon laser

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Hi Andrew

We've had this happen in the past with the fan for the Argon laser on our Leica
SP5.  The fan stops or fails to switch on and there is an inbuilt safety
mechanism which disables the Argon laser if the fan isnt on, so that it cant
overheat.

The actual problem in our case was a build-up of dust in the fan, so the fan
just needed to be cleaned.

Goodluck!
Jennifer


Quoting Tim Feinstein <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> If the fan is a physically separate part that is linked to the laser  
> unit by a power cable and an air handling tube, then my former lab  
> dealt with the same problem a few years ago.  Before replacing the fan  
> (~$400 as an aftermarket part), make sure to check the relevant fuses  
> in the laser power supply ($5 at Radio Shack).  Replacing the fan unit  
> will not fix a blown fuse. Melles Griot should provide you with  
> diagrams to find the appropriate fuse for your particular model.
>
> One caution - It can be fiendishly awkward to get at the fuses in some  
> M-G power supply boards.  You might wan an experienced computer  
> surgeon around to consult.
>
> Good luck and all the best,
>
>
> TF
>
> On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Andrew Lindsay wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working.  
> > The
> > laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself  
> > off,
> > presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
> > enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without  
> > replacing the entire
> > laser unit.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Andrew
>


--
Jennifer Clarke BSc (Hons) PhD
Research Associate, Anatomy and Histology
Centre for Neuroscience, School of Medicine
&
Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Suite, Flinders Microscopy
(available for training and assistance on Mondays only)

Flinders University
GPO Box 2100, Adelaide 5001
Phone: 61 8 8204 6454 / 61 8 8204 4205
Email: [hidden email]
Emmanuel Gustin Emmanuel Gustin
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Re: Broken fan on argon laser

Cautious note: In my experience, many problems with the cooling system
of a laser, air-cooled or water-cooled, are actually problems with
the flow sensors that manufacturers install to verify that there is
enough coolant flow. A good precaution, but apparently these sensors
are brittle components: I think we had two replacements on our Leica
SP2,
and the service people told us this is a relatively frequent problem.

Best Regards,

Emmanuel


-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Jennifer Clarke
Sent: donderdag 29 oktober 2009 00:18
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Broken fan on argon laser

Hi Andrew

We've had this happen in the past with the fan for the Argon laser on
our Leica
SP5.  The fan stops or fails to switch on and there is an inbuilt safety
mechanism which disables the Argon laser if the fan isnt on, so that it
cant
overheat.

The actual problem in our case was a build-up of dust in the fan, so the
fan
just needed to be cleaned.

Goodluck!
Jennifer


Quoting Tim Feinstein <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> If the fan is a physically separate part that is linked to the laser  
> unit by a power cable and an air handling tube, then my former lab  
> dealt with the same problem a few years ago.  Before replacing the fan

> (~$400 as an aftermarket part), make sure to check the relevant fuses

> in the laser power supply ($5 at Radio Shack).  Replacing the fan unit

> will not fix a blown fuse. Melles Griot should provide you with  
> diagrams to find the appropriate fuse for your particular model.
>
> One caution - It can be fiendishly awkward to get at the fuses in some

> M-G power supply boards.  You might wan an experienced computer  
> surgeon around to consult.
>
> Good luck and all the best,
>
>
> TF
>
> On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Andrew Lindsay wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > The fan on the argon laser of our Zeiss LSM510 has stopped working.

> > The
> > laser itself switches on but after a few minutes it will turn itself

> > off,
> > presumably due to overheating. I was wondering if anyone else has
> > enocuntered this problem and if it can be rectified without  
> > replacing the entire
> > laser unit.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Andrew
>


--
Jennifer Clarke BSc (Hons) PhD
Research Associate, Anatomy and Histology
Centre for Neuroscience, School of Medicine
&
Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Suite, Flinders Microscopy
(available for training and assistance on Mondays only)

Flinders University
GPO Box 2100, Adelaide 5001
Phone: 61 8 8204 6454 / 61 8 8204 4205
Email: [hidden email]