Camera chiller/circulators

[Philip Nicovich]

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I'm looking into putting our EMCCD cameras that are running single-molecule
experiments on water cooling, primarily for reduced vibration.  I can't
seem to find much info about what the actual heat load put off by these
cameras is to decide what size chiller I would need.  There's the chillers
recommended by the manufacturer, but no info at least online about if one,
say, 160 W chiller can run two cameras.

It's not like the EMCCD market is the major consumer of sub-ambient water
chiller/circulators and there seem to be lots of options online from the
CPU cooling market as well as the aquarists.  Of course cost is an issue
and I don't want to have to shell out $5k AUD for a chiller I could get for
a quarter of that if I called up someone and acted like I was looking to
cool my overclocked GPUs.

Anyone have more experience with water cooling cameras that might have some
more details on specs needed or recommended units?

Thanks,
Rusty

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[Orla Hanrahan]

Hi Rusty & Philip,

For water cooling our EMCCD cameras and to avoid vibration we recommend the Oasis 160 Chiller Unit. This chiller uses an Archimedes screw design pump which does not cause any vibration and allows the user to cool their camera to the minimum cooling temperature with water.

You can also use recirculators and we recommend the Koolance Exos-2.  However it should be made clear that due to the Koolance product being a water recirculator – i.e. does not have a chilling system, the best it can cool the water to is close to room temperature. It’s minimum will vary with room temperature and would be unlikely to ever get an EMCCD to -95/-100C (min water cooling temperature).

I hope you find this helpful,

Best wishes,

Orla Hanrahan, PhD
Andor Technology
Belfast


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I'm looking into putting our EMCCD cameras that are running single-molecule experiments on water cooling, primarily for reduced vibration.  I can't seem to find much info about what the actual heat load put off by these cameras is to decide what size chiller I would need.  There's the chillers recommended by the manufacturer, but no info at least online about if one, say, 160 W chiller can run two cameras.

It's not like the EMCCD market is the major consumer of sub-ambient water chiller/circulators and there seem to be lots of options online from the CPU cooling market as well as the aquarists.  Of course cost is an issue and I don't want to have to shell out $5k AUD for a chiller I could get for a quarter of that if I called up someone and acted like I was looking to cool my overclocked GPUs.

Anyone have more experience with water cooling cameras that might have some more details on specs needed or recommended units?

Thanks,
Rusty

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Orla,

Thanks for the info.  A couple more questions, if you don't mind;

- For our system we're trying to replace noisy fans rather than get down to
the minimum temperature possible, so the recirculator would be sufficient.
For this could we run two 888 cameras at, say -70 deg C, off of the same
recirculator that you quoted?  Or should one rated for a larger cooling
capacity be used?

- What cooling liquid is recommended for use with Andor cameras?

Thanks,
Rusty

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:37 PM, HANRAHAN Orla <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rusty,
>
> For water cooling our EMCCD cameras and to avoid vibration we recommend
> the Oasis 160 Chiller Unit. This chiller uses an Archimedes screw design
> pump which does not cause any vibration and allows the user to cool their
> camera to the minimum cooling temperature with water.
>
> You can also use recirculators and we recommend the Koolance Exos-2.
> However it should be made clear that due to the Koolance product being a
> water recirculator – i.e. does not have a chilling system, the best it can
> cool the water to is close to room temperature. It’s minimum will vary with
> room temperature and would be unlikely to ever get an EMCCD to -95/-100C
> (min water cooling temperature).
>
> I hope you find this helpful,
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Orla Hanrahan, PhD
> Andor Technology
> Belfast
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]
> On Behalf Of Philip Nicovich
> Sent: 30 September 2015 04:43
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Camera chiller/circulators
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> I'm looking into putting our EMCCD cameras that are running
> single-molecule experiments on water cooling, primarily for reduced
> vibration.  I can't seem to find much info about what the actual heat load
> put off by these cameras is to decide what size chiller I would need.
> There's the chillers recommended by the manufacturer, but no info at least
> online about if one, say, 160 W chiller can run two cameras.
>
> It's not like the EMCCD market is the major consumer of sub-ambient water
> chiller/circulators and there seem to be lots of options online from the
> CPU cooling market as well as the aquarists.  Of course cost is an issue
> and I don't want to have to shell out $5k AUD for a chiller I could get for
> a quarter of that if I called up someone and acted like I was looking to
> cool my overclocked GPUs.
>
> Anyone have more experience with water cooling cameras that might have
> some more details on specs needed or recommended units?
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty
>
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> *Philip R Nicovich*
>
> *Research Fellow,  **ARC Centre of Excellence in Advanced Molecular
> Imaging*
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