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W are planning a new floor for our microscopy core, and going over the
blueprints the architect asked whether we can put the internt/LAN switch
communication tower (if that's what it's called - see link to pic below)
for the entire wing next to one of the confocals (FV1000). So the confocal
will sit in it's own small room and just off that room, would be a space
about 4x6 feet for the tower (itself about 7 feet high). Does this sound
like a bad idea? It does, I know. But I tried to think of a reason not too;
it does not create a lot of heat (low voltage - but a lot of it). Does not
seem to vibrate to much judging by some other ones I checked.

Does anyone have similar physical proximity to such an installation and
does not have any problems? Is there another problem with this I did not
think of? I would not ask if we had a lot of extra room to place this thing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9t184FKmx04bjVfczJ3Q0xnTWs/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Avi
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Hi Avi,

In addition to the heat load and EM noise that would be generated, my main concern would be the IT personnel traffic that comes with the care and feeding of the communications network.  The schedule of adding a new jack or updating firmware may have priority over a confocal user. If this communications system doesn’t have a separate entrance I could see conflicts arising.

Cheers,
Mark
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University Imaging Centers      
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On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Avi Jacob <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> *****
>
> W are planning a new floor for our microscopy core, and going over the
> blueprints the architect asked whether we can put the internt/LAN switch
> communication tower (if that's what it's called - see link to pic below)
> for the entire wing next to one of the confocals (FV1000). So the confocal
> will sit in it's own small room and just off that room, would be a space
> about 4x6 feet for the tower (itself about 7 feet high). Does this sound
> like a bad idea? It does, I know. But I tried to think of a reason not too;
> it does not create a lot of heat (low voltage - but a lot of it). Does not
> seem to vibrate to much judging by some other ones I checked.
>
> Does anyone have similar physical proximity to such an installation and
> does not have any problems? Is there another problem with this I did not
> think of? I would not ask if we had a lot of extra room to place this thing.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9t184FKmx04bjVfczJ3Q0xnTWs/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks,
> Avi
> --
Craig Brideau Craig Brideau
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I agree, the separate entrance would be a must, and if they absolutely have
to put it there, I would make them shield the room with a faraday cage.
Some appropriate metal mesh in the walls should do, or they might be able
to build a smaller box around the rack or shield the rack itself.

Craig



On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Mark Sanders <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> *****
>
> Hi Avi,
>
> In addition to the heat load and EM noise that would be generated, my main
> concern would be the IT personnel traffic that comes with the care and
> feeding of the communications network.  The schedule of adding a new jack
> or updating firmware may have priority over a confocal user. If this
> communications system doesn’t have a separate entrance I could see
> conflicts arising.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
> ****************************************************
> Mark A. Sanders      University of Minnesota
> Program Director      Twin Cities Campus
> University Imaging Centers
> St. Paul office ph:  612-624-3454
> Jackson office ph:  612-626-3645
> CCRB office ph: 612-626-6190
> fax: 612-624-1799
> www.uic.umn.edu
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Avi Jacob <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > *****
> >
> > W are planning a new floor for our microscopy core, and going over the
> > blueprints the architect asked whether we can put the internt/LAN switch
> > communication tower (if that's what it's called - see link to pic below)
> > for the entire wing next to one of the confocals (FV1000). So the
> confocal
> > will sit in it's own small room and just off that room, would be a space
> > about 4x6 feet for the tower (itself about 7 feet high). Does this sound
> > like a bad idea? It does, I know. But I tried to think of a reason not
> too;
> > it does not create a lot of heat (low voltage - but a lot of it). Does
> not
> > seem to vibrate to much judging by some other ones I checked.
> >
> > Does anyone have similar physical proximity to such an installation and
> > does not have any problems? Is there another problem with this I did not
> > think of? I would not ask if we had a lot of extra room to place this
> thing.
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9t184FKmx04bjVfczJ3Q0xnTWs/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Avi
> > --
>
Rosemary.White Rosemary.White
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We have one of these just outside our confocal room. We were just told,
not given any choice. Since installation 3 years ago, it has been visited
about 3 times by IT people modifying connections.It generates almost no
noise or heat and we haven't detected any extra EM noise. So it shouldn't
be much of a problem. There must be other ones around that you could check
out to make sure?

cheers,
Rosemary

Dr Rosemary White
CSIRO Plant Industry
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Canberra, ACT 2601
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On 18/12/13 5:58 AM, "Craig Brideau" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
>I agree, the separate entrance would be a must, and if they absolutely
>have
>to put it there, I would make them shield the room with a faraday cage.
>Some appropriate metal mesh in the walls should do, or they might be able
>to build a smaller box around the rack or shield the rack itself.
>
>Craig
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Mark Sanders <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> *****
>> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> *****
>>
>> Hi Avi,
>>
>> In addition to the heat load and EM noise that would be generated, my
>>main
>> concern would be the IT personnel traffic that comes with the care and
>> feeding of the communications network.  The schedule of adding a new
>>jack
>> or updating firmware may have priority over a confocal user. If this
>> communications system doesn¹t have a separate entrance I could see
>> conflicts arising.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>> ****************************************************
>> Mark A. Sanders      University of Minnesota
>> Program Director      Twin Cities Campus
>> University Imaging Centers
>> St. Paul office ph:  612-624-3454
>> Jackson office ph:  612-626-3645
>> CCRB office ph: 612-626-6190
>> fax: 612-624-1799
>> www.uic.umn.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Avi Jacob <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > *****
>> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
>> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
>> > *****
>> >
>> > W are planning a new floor for our microscopy core, and going over the
>> > blueprints the architect asked whether we can put the internt/LAN
>>switch
>> > communication tower (if that's what it's called - see link to pic
>>below)
>> > for the entire wing next to one of the confocals (FV1000). So the
>> confocal
>> > will sit in it's own small room and just off that room, would be a
>>space
>> > about 4x6 feet for the tower (itself about 7 feet high). Does this
>>sound
>> > like a bad idea? It does, I know. But I tried to think of a reason not
>> too;
>> > it does not create a lot of heat (low voltage - but a lot of it). Does
>> not
>> > seem to vibrate to much judging by some other ones I checked.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have similar physical proximity to such an installation
>>and
>> > does not have any problems? Is there another problem with this I did
>>not
>> > think of? I would not ask if we had a lot of extra room to place this
>> thing.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9t184FKmx04bjVfczJ3Q0xnTWs/edit?usp=sha
>>ring
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Avi
>> > --
>>
George McNamara George McNamara
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bad idea.
Does your confocal microscope have its own Faraday cage?
Is I.T. willing to buy you one? (and is it practical to move the scope
into it?)
even if they claim no radio frequency interference, don't believe them.


On 12/17/2013 8:16 AM, Avi Jacob wrote:

> *****
> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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> *****
>
> W are planning a new floor for our microscopy core, and going over the
> blueprints the architect asked whether we can put the internt/LAN switch
> communication tower (if that's what it's called - see link to pic below)
> for the entire wing next to one of the confocals (FV1000). So the confocal
> will sit in it's own small room and just off that room, would be a space
> about 4x6 feet for the tower (itself about 7 feet high). Does this sound
> like a bad idea? It does, I know. But I tried to think of a reason not too;
> it does not create a lot of heat (low voltage - but a lot of it). Does not
> seem to vibrate to much judging by some other ones I checked.
>
> Does anyone have similar physical proximity to such an installation and
> does not have any problems? Is there another problem with this I did not
> think of? I would not ask if we had a lot of extra room to place this thing.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9t184FKmx04bjVfczJ3Q0xnTWs/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks,
> Avi
> --
>
>    


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Single Cells Analyst
L.J.N. Cooper Lab
University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX 77054
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